General Grabbers or coopers

[NavyDiver]

Looking and a few new tires before a trip. One worn GG AT2 and two with small splits in sidewalls. I put 40000km on them after buying the D3 secondhand. Not so keen on the spilts in the sidewalls but the tires seem to have gone a fair distance before I got the car as well. It had a wangler road tire as a spare. Assume the wangeler comes with the car new.

While looking at coopers I was offerd 4 2nd hand General g AT2 tires. Apparently lots of D3 owners with 18"rims are changing over to other brands and the unused spare tires were offered to me at a decent price.

If your looking to save a few dollars you might like to try this at your local coopers dealer :) Gues some people do not rotate the tires much!

Got my new- second hand tires and 4 wheel alignment at Bulleen Tire power. Nice chaps, shame their hoist broke with my D3 stuck up near the roof all day[bigrolf][bigrolf] Apparently one of the four emergancy lowering bits on hoist broke stoped them lowering it manually. DOH

[VladTepes]

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[Owl]

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Are you sure about that????

But I agree - I've not had a good run with Coopers. Sucked in by the advertising!
Ian

[Grumbles]

What Vlad said.

[NavyDiver]

Poor gents trying to do the wheel alignment!! Cannot get the parts to fix it and cannot get it down. My car left on top. Lateral thinking saw them get a tow truck back it up to the hoist and drive my d3 onto the truck :cool::cool::cool:

[NavyDiver]

What Vlad said.


Barcrusher boats advertise as hard as cooper’s tires. A gent who comes fishing with me has been in a barcrusher several times and my similar size glass boat. He tells me the difference was a lot more than the extra 40K for the barcrusher.

It is funny looking at the good reports for coopers along with the many bad reports. The two tears in my General Grabber AT2 were inflicted by some fairly tough 4wd tracks. It is hard comparing tires with out having them on the same car over the same ground. Two jackaroos with cooper’s tires travelled over the same tracks and did not get any sidewall tears. could have been my poor driving of course:wasntme:. Guess if I search your posts I will find out why you two love coopers so much?:D

[big guy]

coopers, coopers, coopers, coopers, coopers, coopers, coopers.:p

[bobzed57]

Two sets of Cooper ATRs on my Touareg and now one on my D3. They work for me.

[Bushwanderer]

I've not got any evidence, apart from the "love/hate" responses, but wonder if this is due to quality control issues. This means that you could get a good set or a bad set.

Best Wishes,
Peter

[ozscott]

Not Coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers not coopers


Could not agree more.

The AT2 General Grabber is a very nice tyre. I prefer Maxis these days, but I would still go AT2's without hesitation.

Cheers

[Chops]

I had an excellent run with my two sets of Coopers on the D1,, went to the MTZ's for some more serious workouts,,
But it's just been recomended to me to get the GG's for the D2,, who makes them, what their $$$
I'm tossing up between these (if their any good) and a set of Michies',, can't see myself doing much hard stuff in the D2, it's more for touring with some beach work, and light tracks,, must be getting soft in my old age,, :p

[ozscott]

Mate - General tyres in the US. The AT2 is a nice tyre. My brother sells them aswell as Maxxis. My mate has AT2 on his Disco 2 in a 31 inch and I have a Maxxis Bravo MA 751 in a 31 inch on my D2...both purchased at the same time and been offroad together. I prefer the Maxxis - it looks like a more road oriented tyre but looks are deceiving - its very much like the Michellin XPC but heavier duty and larger. The Maxxis are impeccable in the wet and under brakes. They are quiet and very durable and long wearing. They are made by Maxxis in Malaysia. Maxxis have become big in the serious off road set - Bighorn for example and the Bravo MA 751 have a good following and have also done very well in tyre reviews in the Mags in the last few years.

I can compare the Maxxis on my own trucks (D1 and D2) to Pirrelli Scorpion AT in 31 inch, Michellin XPC in 29.5, Sime Alpina AT in 30 inch; Pirelli Scorp AT in 30 inch LT.

If you tow you will love the Maxxis also - very strong carcass and high load rating in the LT.

Cheers

[Mike_S]

Do you chaps get the new General AT out there ? Seems to be a lot of love for it at the moment in the UK now it's replaced the AT2

[ozscott]

Mate - I cant see the AT on the US and AUS web sites just the AT2 still...didnt know the AT2 had been replaced. Will keep an eye out.

Cheers

ps. just saw a pic of them on the Brit boards..they look very much like a Sime Alpina AT...and they look dumbed down compared to the AT2...I see you cant stud them either whereas the AT2 you can.

[NomadicD3]

Hey weakest link, hows things mate? The age old tyre debate again hey? I'm going through the same thing myself atm. So i thought i'd put my 2cents is LOL
I'd put Michelins on a 4wd just a few days after hell freezes over, they have a real bad habit of parting/blowing out when they still have 3-5mm of tread stilll on them.{more than just personal experience here}
Coopers; well i've been running them on the D1 now for 4-5yrs and i have to say they don't live up to the hype. Those that have survived the miles i've done, look like i'll get no more than about 40-45000 k's out of them. Probably about 50% of dirt/offroad use and some hard roads in that however of those 2 that have taken puntures weren't able to be repaired, destroyed the inner belts apparently?? I've never had this happen on any other tyre, maybe was BS maybe unlucky not sure.
GG, no nothing about them, had never heard of them until i got on this site ;)
Now after nearly 20 years and 500 000k's plus in 4wd's my winner to this day and has been for along time{yes i have gone away fron them but i've always end up going back to them is BFG. I've used both the MT's and all terrains and abused them both well beyond what i would expect a tyre to take and they have always stood up well, not infallible but damm good. Now i've just been researching the new KM2 and a friend has just put them on his D2 and the reviews are impressive.
Just food for thought mate, or another level of complexity to an expensive conundrum:D
good luck mate
ND3

[Mike_S]

Mate - I cant see the AT on the US and AUS web sites just the AT2 still...didnt know the AT2 had been replaced. Will keep an eye out.

Cheers

ps. just saw a pic of them on the Brit boards..they look very much like a Sime Alpina AT...and they look dumbed down compared to the AT2...I see you cant stud them either whereas the AT2 you can.

It may only be a european thing as it's been replaced due to new noise regulations on tyres. Tread pattern looks similar to the Pirelli ATR's I'm running, I may be tempted to try the GG's when my ATR's are dead, but on the current wear rate that'll be quite some time. They're not that much cheaper than the Pirelli for the 19" tyre, but they do seem to be winning lots of fans at the moment in the bad weather we've been having.

[RickO]

Hi All,

After recently kitting my D3 out with GG AT2's I'd like to throw my hat into the ring for the GG AT2's:
- very handy off road ;
- not noticibly noisier than the OEM rubbish tyres; and
- very well mannered on the road (infcat they saved a Hyundai resembling the letter V just two days ago, I couldn't notice any difference in braking performance in the wet with antilock fully applied!)

RickO

[big guy]

Hey weakest link, hows things mate? The age old tyre debate again hey? I'm going through the same thing myself atm. So i thought i'd put my 2cents is LOL
I'd put Michelins on a 4wd just a few days after hell freezes over, they have a real bad habit of parting/blowing out when they still have 3-5mm of tread stilll on them.{more than just personal experience here}
Coopers; well i've been running them on the D1 now for 4-5yrs and i have to say they don't live up to the hype. Those that have survived the miles i've done, look like i'll get no more than about 40-45000 k's out of them. Probably about 50% of dirt/offroad use and some hard roads in that however of those 2 that have taken puntures weren't able to be repaired, destroyed the inner belts apparently?? I've never had this happen on any other tyre, maybe was BS maybe unlucky not sure.
GG, no nothing about them, had never heard of them until i got on this site ;)
Now after nearly 20 years and 500 000k's plus in 4wd's my winner to this day and has been for along time{yes i have gone away fron them but i've always end up going back to them is BFG. I've used both the MT's and all terrains and abused them both well beyond what i would expect a tyre to take and they have always stood up well, not infallible but damm good. Now i've just been researching the new KM2 and a friend has just put them on his D2 and the reviews are impressive.
Just food for thought mate, or another level of complexity to an expensive conundrum:D
good luck mate
ND3

Never heard of Michelins failing but hey, never say never.

BFG are wicked and may well be my next choice after my Coopers wear out.

I can honestly say the ATR LT coopers have been great, my mates run them and some have the BFGs and I do like them better in off road situations.

On road they are a bit noisier but my D1 is noisy anyhow.

Thanks for the food for thought.

[ozscott]

Never heard of Michelins failing but hey, never say never.

BFG are wicked and may well be my next choice after my Coopers wear out.

I can honestly say the ATR LT coopers have been great, my mates run them and some have the BFGs and I do like them better in off road situations.

On road they are a bit noisier but my D1 is noisy anyhow.

Thanks for the food for thought.

Me either with Michellin. The michy XPC was a truly great tyre and SO much better than most OEM stuff. It was designed purely for the Discovery and did so well on it. I had mine for 80-90k before changing with very low tread. I had the same run on the D1. No sign of delamination etc. I have never heard of Michy blowing - that being the province of AMerican tyres early in their years of radials. I say that having been around a lot of off road drivers and a brother with an off road business for 14 years who also sells tyres.

Cheers

[Bushwanderer]

I am a fan of Michelin for on-road use, but not off-road, where the side walls are a little soft.

The only failure I had with the Michi's was when travelling a gravel road (massive gravel size) in the Central West of NSW. The sidewall punctured on one Tyre.

Best Wishes,
Peter

[connock]

Hi All,
Good to hear the good wrap GG,s are getting as I had a set fitted last week:D.
As for Coopers a mate went and did the Robe to Carpenters rock run and three of four tyres had lumpy side walls after , brocken cords I suspect. this was enough to put me off.
Cant wait to get the GGs off road ;)

connock

PS Merry Xmas to all

[CSBrisie]

I had GG2's on my D3 and they were excellent on and off road. When new they did the Adelaide - Uluru trip via the Oodndatta track etc and I took two spares and used neither. We had the D3 packed to the rafters (read: heavy!!) and towed a Kimberley Camper over very, very rough country including the creek through to Boggy Hole in NT (with camper!!).

Two years and just under 40,000 plus kays later we did the same trip. We had one rear RHS blow out about two hours out of Oodndatta, late in the afternoon, after a full day on the track loping along effortlessly.......then about two hours out of Dallhousie the rear lhs blew out too. Tire pressures were about right, but I failed to note temp rising (Tyre Dog) and to be honest I was just a little inexperienced. Lesson learnt. Next time I do a big trip I will always have newish tires on alround and especially the back. Both spares went on ofcourse and no further issues all the way around the Rock and home to Adelaide.

[PAT303]

Me either with Michellin. The michy XPC was a truly great tyre and SO much better than most OEM stuff. It was designed purely for the Discovery and did so well on it. I had mine for 80-90k before changing with very low tread. I had the same run on the D1. No sign of delamination etc. I have never heard of Michy blowing - that being the province of AMerican tyres early in their years of radials. I say that having been around a lot of off road drivers and a brother with an off road business for 14 years who also sells tyres.

Cheers

The XPC is one of the best ever 4WD tyres,I'm tossing up between Michelin or GG's for my L322,I'm leaning towards Michelins.I like many others was lured to Coopers but mine were so bad I replaced them before they were worn out. Pat

[Chops]

So where can one source the GG's local to SE Melb?
I can get hold of any of the Michies, but can't seem to find anyone with the GGs,,:( Are these something you have to import yourself?

[connock]

Hi Chops
Try The Tyre Factory 1 Mercer Street
Geelong , 3220, VIC

Phone: 1300 201 537

Good luck

SORRY Chops just realised thats SW of melb

[big guy]

Michi XPC's, best tyre I ever had on any car.

Silly of them to stop making them.:o

[NomadicD3]

HHmmm ok big guy, i can't say i remember which michei i had on at the time as it was 12 yrs ago but i managed to blow 3 in the space of 2000k's, all were down to the last 3-5 mm of tread all were on gravel roads and all were on my {much missed} 82 rangie, i had very little weight onboard but i was travelling a little quicker than the average punter. Now that said i have had a few friends in the past few years who have bought cars that had michies already on them and they have had the same problem, again not sure which type of michie and again these were central qld property cars so nearly all offroad/gravel use.
I think bushwanderer may be on the money about using michie's on road as the michie dual compound tyres are my favourite tyre on the motorbikes.
Merry Xmas all, and remember it's better to be there late than not at all.
ND3

[PAT303]

Michi XPC's, best tyre I ever had on any car.

Silly of them to stop making them.:o

They stop making them because they couldn't make money on them,thats what I've been told anyway. Pat

[adonuff]

So where can one source the GG's local to SE Melb?
I can get hold of any of the Michies, but can't seem to find anyone with the GGs,,:( Are these something you have to import yourself?

Hi Chops We got our General Grabbers from On Track 4X4
Factory 5
12 Melcome Court
Kealba
9310 7755

Very Happy with the tyres on the 18 inch rims, much better in the mud and smooth enough on the road. Even fixed the prob I had with the Disco wandering all over the place! Not cheap though But so far worth the price.

[Chops]

Thanks Connock and Andrew,, found a place in Dandenong that sells them, he doesn't have any at the moment but can get them in for me,,
I probably won't be tackling anything too hard in Tassie over Xmas, so I should be fine till I get back. I'm not looking to turn the D2 into something like my D1, just want to keep this one looking/driving nicely,, and quietly
too,, she'll mostly be a street tourer so to speak. I have the D1 for the rough stuff :D

Sorry for the highjack, and thanks to all for the input,,

[Nomad9]

Hi There,
I must be one of the unfortunate ones, I've got Cooper HT plus's on my D3 on the 18 inch rims. I was sort of forced into them because of the tyre size, at the time I couldn't find anything else, seeing I've got six because of the dual wheel carrier, changing them all out would be a very expensive exercise. Well I suppose I'll find out how they go on gravel the next four to five days, good job I've got two spares... They are relativelyt new thats got to be a good thing hasn't it!!

[Hoges]

FWIW: Did a trip to the Cape with Cooper H/T on the P38 and 2 original Michelin M+S from the P38 on the camper (LR wheels) with 3 spare ratty whatevers on the LR spare rims (thankfully not needed). The Michelins have about 30% left (after 100,00km on the P38). The Coopers have done 35k km and are about 50% worn. We eased through a lot of claggy mud on the PDR (just past Archer River) and they held up well.

However, they are very hard walled and the ride over the gravel and corrugations - even with pressures lowered to 28psi rear (normally 38) and 22psi front (normally 28-29) was less than ordinary. Broken bitumen around Bris. at normal pressures is equally harsh and always has been.

Seriously contemplating BFG A/T for next set.

cheers

[Nomad9]

Hi Hoges,
Phew......... That sounds a bit better. I couldn't find any BFG A/T's in an 18 inch tyre, I could only find the GG A/Ts or the Pirelli, and I would rather drive a flat BFG than a Pirelli, my opinion of course, I've had some bad experiences with Pirellis. They do do a good calender thought!!

[jtonline]

I have had GG AT2 on my D3 for 18 months and 40,000K later they have heaps of tread left. Very happy with them, this is mainly local streets and highway driving, and a bit of gravel and sand.

They do seem to go the distance, just don't inflate the tyre to the 34 or 36 PSI recommended. I have always run my tyres at about 38 psi and the least I have got of any set on any car (Celica, Liberty, Falcon, Forester, Liberty) is 60,000k's.

Happy Tyre shopping.

[Jesse B]

Interesting thread, given I'm going to be one of a number of D4 owners who're going to be in the market for 18s when the new rims arrive from the UK in January. On my short list at present are the GG AT2s and the Cooper LTZs (or maybe the BFGs, but road noise worries me here) - so any further experience with these (or other options in 18s) would be very welcome reading.

[oldsalt]

I've been running GG AT2s for 11 months now and I find them "great" ... I do a fair bit of driving up around the Vic high country and they haven't let me down yet. Slightly noisier than the previous Goodyear "silent armours" but a lot better on the road for grip and handling - I also put a lot of miles on them driving down to the Gippsland area to visit my folks and so far so good.
cheers

[Jesse B]

Oldsalt - road noise is a critical factor in my decision making re tyres. I love the almost complete silence of the D4, even with the Pirelli's I'm currently running, and will be really loathe to surrender that - even though I know this might run head-on into the whole purpose of going to the 18" rims (to get sturdier AT tyre options). So, when I see you saying "slightly noisier" I start to worry - can I press you for any more info on this one? Or anyone else out there who's used the 18" GGs?

[PCH]

I can state the GG AT2's is a decent tyre for daily use. They are marginally noiser than the GY Wranglers and as they wear they appear a bit noiser but still very acceptable IMHO. I have never had my tyres rebalanced from new and they have travelled 49,000km mainly on bitumen. There is a still around 60% tread depth left. As a heavy duty off road tyre I can't really compare as I run a set of 17" STT's.

Chris

[Mike_S]

Interesting thread, given I'm going to be one of a number of D4 owners who're going to be in the market for 18s when the new rims arrive from the UK in January. On my short list at present are the GG AT2s and the Cooper LTZs (or maybe the BFGs, but road noise worries me here) - so any further experience with these (or other options in 18s) would be very welcome reading.


This *was* an issue in the UK until recently, there's only been 1 AT tyre available in 19" and that was the Pirelli ATR and even then it's only available in 255/55/19, the Discovery size. We've had a few 20" options mainly from Cooper, but I don't want a 20" tyre for offroad work, they'll end up getting pinched on the sidewall.

As I said earlier in this thread, I went for a set of the 19" Pirelli ATR's earlier this year for my RRS (despite them being a 55 profile when the RRS wears a 50) and have found them to be superb. I've done a fair few rocky tracks and they've come out unscathed, they're also very good in anything up to full mud, where they suffer, but that's to be expected really. I use my car for work on cross country pipelines so it does see offroad use quite frequently for both work and pleasure.

For me, they were a bloody expensive tyre at £800 for a set of 4, but that's been more than repaid with the wear rate. I've done 22,000 miles on them so far and they're only 40% worn, I expect to get at least 35,000 miles out of them before having to change and compared to the 12,000 I got from standard road tyres I'm very happy with that. They're no louder than normal road tyres and have had a minimal effect on economy.

Recently, General released the 'new' AT tyre to replace the AT2 and the 19" is the main focus at the moment. Seems to be a lot cheaper than the Pirelli (£600ish for a set of 4), but with a tradeoff of slight noise (only from what I've read about them, not from personal experience). From my perspective it's great, as I don't need to have a smaller wheel or separate set of wheels. If you're running 19" on your D4 then getting a set of the GG AT's brought over might be a solution, not having to buy a new set of 18" wheels pays for a fair number of tyres I'd have thought...

Massive thread here about it if you're interested

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - ******The NEW 255/55x19 General AT****** (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic55225.html)

[400HPONGAS]

Anyone know where to get GG's 255-60-18's in Perth , need in a hurry !!!

[Jesse B]

Recently, General released the 'new' AT tyre to replace the AT2 and the 19" is the main focus at the moment. Seems to be a lot cheaper than the Pirelli (£600ish for a set of 4), but with a tradeoff of slight noise (only from what I've read about them, not from personal experience). From my perspective it's great, as I don't need to have a smaller wheel or separate set of wheels. If you're running 19" on your D4 then getting a set of the GG AT's brought over might be a solution, not having to buy a new set of 18" wheels pays for a fair number of tyres I'd have thought...



Thanks Mike - yes, had followed that UK thread with interest - mainly in the hope the 18" ATs would be released by the time our new rims arrive late January. I'm still hoping this might happen (and that they might come to Aus in time!) as it looks like a good option indeed. I'm happy to be going down in rim sizes, not just for tyre choice but because it will give a bit more sidewall height too. And the new rims & tyre size options will allow a bit more rubber on the road as well, which has got to be a good thing in sand, particularly.

[DM74]

mmmm, so from what I read I shouldn't be in a hurry to replace the Michi's on my D2? I've been worried about the 2001 build date and looking around at whats available - great thread, very helpful! Maybe I should just wait till one blows?

My problem is I need x1 to replace a one worn tyre - probably the old spare - and for the life of me I can't find one at around 70% tread or even new.

Any ideas?

Lesson learned - in Victoria your spare tyre doen't need to be in any sort of condition or even roadworthy, as I found out the hard way cause mine has a big chunk taken out of the sidewall! Of course if you were silly enough to put it on and use it, you car is instantly unroadworthy!!!
Is this the dumbest thing you've ever heard of?



regards
Darian

[Bushwanderer]

I'll say! Fancy you, carrying around a spare that can't legally be used. :eek:

Best Wishes,
peter

[oldsalt]

My AT2's have been very good over 12k .... but I have NO experience of Coopers ... so go with what your heart says and have fun out there !
cheers

[DiscoWeb]

Interesting thread, given I'm going to be one of a number of D4 owners who're going to be in the market for 18s when the new rims arrive from the UK in January. On my short list at present are the GG AT2s and the Cooper LTZs (or maybe the BFGs, but road noise worries me here) - so any further experience with these (or other options in 18s) would be very welcome reading.

Jesse B,

I have been running a set of the Continental Cross Contact AT's for a about 8 months and have been pretty impressed.

Done a bit of off road work and they have performed very well and whilst they are slightly noisier than the OEM Continental UHP road tyres that came on my D3 the additional noise is in no way intrusive.

Just a late addition to help complicate matter for you and importantly they come in the correct size of 255/60/R18 and load rating.

My only complain, like many 18 inch AT tyres is availability. I would suggest getting at least all 5 replaced and if possible a 6th for any planned big trips and rotating two at a time.

Good Luck,

George

[macwood1]

Followed this thread and many others concerning choice of tyres for D4. I have the 2.7TD flavour which seems to be a little more flexible but would prefer not to change down to 17" rims. Last year I bought Cooper ATR 265/60/18 in desperation as the GG AT2's I was promised failed to arrive in time for my trip. This size of Cooper ATR is not LT. They became a bit of a nightmare for me. I had 3 punctures across the Strzlecki and Plenty, one tyre was beyond repair and another I found when I got back and went to the tire dealer had a broken belt inside and was a throw away. At $350 each it was an expensive mistake. I will now use the 4 Coopers I have left to replace the OEM tyres when they expire just for road use. My decision I think now is to go with the GG AT2.... I am told you can order these from TireTrack in the US for $199 each plus approx. $350 for delivery... in OZ I have been quoted $375 each. Any views?

David

[Jesse B]

Jesse B,

I have been running a set of the Continental Cross Contact AT's for a about 8 months and have been pretty impressed.

Done a bit of off road work and they have performed very well and whilst they are slightly noisier than the OEM Continental UHP road tyres that came on my D3 the additional noise is in no way intrusive.

Just a late addition to help complicate matter for you and importantly they come in the correct size of 255/60/R18 and load rating.

My only complain, like many 18 inch AT tyres is availability. I would suggest getting at least all 5 replaced and if possible a 6th for any planned big trips and rotating two at a time.

Good Luck,

George

Thanks George. Yes, I have the Conti's in mind as an option, having read of some good experiences (like yours) on the forum. But at this stage I'm still hoping to squeeze in some extra size - not so much width but height / diameter, to get even more sidewall. Having said that, the "standard" dimensions certainly do limit the challenges re fitment! Appreciate the input though, and I may yet roll over and go this way.

[Graeme]

I am told you can order these from TireTrack in the US ................plus approx. $350 for delivery...
I have 5 other tyres on their way for $491 delivery (and I should have ordered 6).

[PaulGOz]

The tyre dilemma continues. My factory original 18 inch Wranglers have given me a good run off road in sand and in some rocky terrain where I was exepcting to get a puncture but with lowered pressures they held up with some minor cuts. They are now getting a little more worn and that puncture/major tear is becoming more likely.

A sensible option seems to be to go to an oversized 18 inch all terrain tyre as there are a few options available and you start to get into the tyre sizes that the Toyotas and Patrols run. The issue though is legal compliance. Has anyone tried to get an engineering certificate or have any idea what is involved in doing this? The size I have in mind is a BFG T/A in 265/65x18 which is approx 38mm (1.5" old school) larger in diameter. The car also looks better if that counts and this would be an option for those with the 3.0L.

[macwood1]

Hi Graeme,
Do you have a contact name at Tire Track who I should order with? Many thanks.
David

[Graeme]

Hi David,
I emailed and can recommend mac@tirerack.com as suggested elsewhere.

[tmacD3]

I have 6 of the 265/65x17 General Grabber AT2s on steel rims and 5 of the 255/55 x 18 on the original alloys. The are very good all round tyre. The 18s are for running around town, and the 17s are put on for every trip, even a weekend touring with no real offroad work. Yes, the D3 is not placarded for that size 17, but at least I can get them everywhere.

[AGRO]

Hi All,

I thought I'd share with you a few of the inconsistencies in freight costs occured when importing tyres from the US to Australia. These email dealings were done through an exceptionally helpful and tolerant MAC.

Last week I imported 4 GG AT2 from Tirerack.

4 56HR8GRAT2XL 255/60R18 GENERAL*GRAB AT 2 XL 199.00

SUBTOTAL: $796.00
FREIGHT: $312.62
****FEDEX INT’L ECONOMY****
TOTAL: $1,108.62

I wanted to order another 2 and was quoted

SHIPPING WAREHOUSE: 2 PKGS OF 1 TIRE PER PKG
FED ECONOMY (3-5 DAYS) - $ 340.74 SHIPPING METHOD FIE

The quote was also redone for 4 as confirmation because MAC didn't believe the FEDEX quote:

FED ECONOMY (3-5 DAYS) - $ 388.85 SHIPPING METHOD FIE
QUOTE FOR 4 TIRES SHIPPING FROM SB
SHIPPING WAREHOUSE: 4 PKGS OF 1 TIRE PER PKG

The price per tyre went from

US$277 each for 4 :)

to

US$296 each for 4 :(

to

US$369 each for 2 :o

I'd be most interested in hearing about any massive variations in Freight costs quoted to other importers.

Fitting/Balancing costs are necessary on top of these prices so the Melbourne Tyre Dealers prices are looking real good!!!!

[DDdisco]

I put Grabber 255/60 18s on my D3 a little while ago and have been very happy with them so far. Set me back $355 each (fitted,balanced, etc) from Jax in Toowoomba. For all the mucking about of importing them yourself, it seemed reasonable to me. One of the guys there used to work at Austral in Brisbane, so knows his way around Land Rovers as well.
Cheers

[RickO]

5x GG AT2's for my OEM 18' wheels for $1620 including importing and fitting - no hassles at all and definitely no regrets.

GG AT2's ALL good!