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kodez23
20th January 2011, 12:20 PM
My recently acquired 2A 109 GS came minus steering wheel, column and box. Will the same parts off a series 3 109" or 88" Series 2 bolt straight into my 2A? Do 88s and 109s have the same steering assemblies? So many issues to take care of!
Cheers again,
Dave.

JDNSW
20th January 2011, 12:40 PM
1. 88 and 109 are the same steering assembly.

2. Steering wheel and hence column (different spline/connection) changed about 1967, but complete assemblies are interchangeable. (earlier wheel & column & box are the same as Series 1 from 1955, but you are unlikely to find one)

3. Series 3 steering wheel is the same as the later wheel, and the box/column are pretty much interchangeable except for trim issues. Late S3 wheel, fully interchangeable, is a much better grade of plastic.

Hope this helps

John

B.S.F.
20th January 2011, 04:31 PM
Except that the series 1 1955 on and early series 2 columns are about 1" (25mm) shorter than s2a.

JDNSW
20th January 2011, 05:24 PM
Except that the series 1 1955 on and early series 2 columns are about 1" (25mm) shorter than s2a.

But are interchangeable!

John

peterg1001
20th January 2011, 05:55 PM
So while we're talking steering options, what are the available bolt-on options for adding power steering to a Series II?

Thanks, Peter

isuzurover
20th January 2011, 06:02 PM
So while we're talking steering options, what are the available bolt-on options for adding power steering to a Series II?

Thanks, Peter

this is the only bolt-on, "off the sfelf" kit that I am aware of:
TDZ Power steering for Series Land Rovers (http://www.heystee-automotive.com/parts/pas/pas.htm)

However there are much better options IMHO. Have a search on here.

JayBoRover
20th January 2011, 09:33 PM
So while we're talking steering options, what are the available bolt-on options for adding power steering to a Series II?

Thanks, Peter
Shame you're not closer to Perth as I'd be quite tempted to swap my power steering set-up with your standard set-up. Just swap the drag link, bolt in the hydraulic pump and reservoir. The only weld-on bit on mine is the mount block for the chassis end of the hydraulic ram but I think this can be accomplished with a bolt on mount block that wouldn't be too hard to get made.

Of course I'd want a steering wheel and your wheels too as there's little hope of me turning the wide wheels without the power steering. I could try and find out more but I understand the system on my Landy was installed locally and made up from bits rather than a complete kit. It looks pretty simple and I don't think there's anything particularly difficult in it.

Cheers
John B

peterg1001
21st January 2011, 04:44 AM
Shame you're not closer to Perth as I'd be quite tempted to swap my power steering set-up with your standard set-up. Just swap the drag link, bolt in the hydraulic pump and reservoir. The only weld-on bit on mine is the mount block for the chassis end of the hydraulic ram but I think this can be accomplished with a bolt on mount block that wouldn't be too hard to get made.

Of course I'd want a steering wheel and your wheels too as there's little hope of me turning the wide wheels without the power steering. I could try and find out more but I understand the system on my Landy was installed locally and made up from bits rather than a complete kit. It looks pretty simple and I don't think there's anything particularly difficult in it.

Any chance of a photo of the setup?

Thanks, Peter

JayBoRover
21st January 2011, 08:45 AM
Any chance of a photo of the setup?

Thanks, Peter

I'll take a bunch of photo's of all the parts of the system this weekend for you.
Cheers
John B

kodez23
21st January 2011, 02:01 PM
I'd like to see some photo's too, I just checked my parts donor series 3 and it has a power steering rig on it too. Hopefully I can transfer it across to the 2A GS although its currently hooked and up to the Holden 202 and looks like it needs a full overhaul. Transferring it to the LR 2.25 could be tricky.

JayBoRover
23rd January 2011, 12:49 AM
I took some photo's but left it a little late in the day and they haven't come out too good. In fact, it was quite difficult to work out what was what and I know it!:( I'll try again tomorrow with jacking the front up nice and high and setting up some work-lights to flood the area under the front end. It'll also take some time to maybe edit and label the parts in the photo's, as explaining the power steering components might be tricky. Sorry for the delay in proceedings.
Cheers
John B

Lotz-A-Landies
23rd January 2011, 08:04 AM
Getting back to the original non-power steering part of the thread. There is a difference between the SII/SIIa and the SIII column. While they will swap physically the SIII has a different blinker attachment designed to be covered by a plastic shroud that mates with the SIII dash.

It may look out of place fitted to a SII/SIIa firewall.

kodez23
23rd January 2011, 11:51 AM
Getting back to the original non-power steering part of the thread. There is a difference between the SII/SIIa and the SIII column. While they will swap physically the SIII has a different blinker attachment designed to be covered by a plastic shroud that mates with the SIII dash.

It may look out of place fitted to a SII/SIIa firewall.

Right you are. It won't be pretty but hopefully it will do the job for the time being.
Thanks,
Dave.

UncleHo
27th January 2011, 11:56 AM
G'day Kodez23 :)

The later 2a from 67 onwards had a rubber dished steering wheel which, to achieve the same driving/wheel position the column was shortened by aprox 1+ inch, the steering box is common to the series 3 but they have lower quality internals,you could use the box and shaft and by using the column sleeve from an earlier 2/2a still get the correct result, OR you could use an early 2/2a steering assembly(sprung wheel type) until you get a correct later 2a one.


cheers

UncleHo
27th January 2011, 12:14 PM
Hey, Kodez23 :)

Get on to Pick and Pay in Melbourne(wagoo's post) and see if that SWB is a later 2a with a rubber type steering wheel, late type 2a, could be the source of parts, maybe Wagoo could get them for you, it's worth a try.:)

kodez23
30th January 2011, 01:45 PM
Hey, Kodez23 :)

Get on to Pick and Pay in Melbourne(wagoo's post) and see if that SWB is a later 2a with a rubber type steering wheel, late type 2a, could be the source of parts, maybe Wagoo could get them for you, it's worth a try.:)
Useful info, thanks. I'll make do with my donor Series 3 steering set up for the moment, I'm still trying to keep costs down to absolute essentials (only costs so far being wd40, manuals, towing of completely seized Series 3, a ball joint separating tool and a case or two of beer:D).
I have my eye on some 2a's lying around that eventually may well be purchased for parts if needed.
Cheers,
Dave.