Spotted brand new Army mercs today

[imatt]

Hi all,
While working at Appleton Dock in melbourne today I saw a whole load of brand new army mercedes G wagons and utes. I was going to take some photos and then noticed a sign that said no cameras. They were all decked out in auscam, black alloy wheels, BFG all terrains, roof racks and possibly lifted suspension. There was wagons and space cab utes, I would love to have taken one for a spin to see what they are like.
Cheers Matt

[diezal]

I also saw them 3 of them on blackburn rd on a flat bed, god the looked good.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Wot is this the Mercedes appreciation forum? :mad:

Wash your eyes out with soap and never mention the name again! ;)

[juddy]

Wot is this the Mercedes appreciation forum? :mad:

Wash your eyes out with soap and never mention the name again! ;)

Now now, there not that bad......

[isuzurover]

Wot is this the Mercedes appreciation forum? :mad:

Wash your eyes out with soap and never mention the name again! ;)

There are threads on:
Army inters
Alvis stalwarts
Unimogs
various other non-lr built vehicles and trailers...

So why not army Model-Gs???

Some of us have two fully functioning eyes that aren't fitted with blinkers ;)

(btw - the sooner the army gets the full compliment of mercs the sooner they might sell off the 110s...)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

There are threads on:
Army inters
Alvis stalwarts
Unimogs
various other non-lr built vehicles and trailers...

So why not army Model-Gs???

Some of us have two fully functioning eyes that aren't fitted with blinkers ;)

(btw - the sooner the army gets the full compliment of mercs the sooner they might sell off the 110s...)Because this thread is in AuLRO General.

The Army Inter section is in REMLR a seperate organisation kindly hosted on AuLRO and when the Stolly was built, Alvis was in the Rover Group of companies and the thread in the Forward Control and other Military variants forum. ;)

Happy to see Merc's (MB, GPW, GPA etc) Jeeps, Austin Champs and even Mercedes products in REMLR! :)

[Mick_Marsh]

So what!
Mogs are Mercs.
I have two Mercs.
I am surprised at how many Merc owners have Landrovers.
There is a post or two on this forum about a Merc with a Landrover motor in it.
Aye Carumba! (Slaps open palm of hand to head.)

[isuzurover]

Because this thread is in AuLRO General.

The Army Inter section is in REMLR a seperate organisation kindly hosted on AuLRO and when the Stolly was built, Alvis was in the Rover Group of companies and the thread in the Forward Control and other Military variants forum. ;)

Happy to see Merc's (MB, GPW, GPA etc) Jeeps, Austin Champs and even Mercedes products in REMLR! :)

Your pedantry knows no bounds Diana!

So your definition of "General Chat" and "almost anything goes" means no mercedes chat???

[uninformed]

BFG A/T's....... what the hell???????

[The ho har's]

Wot is this the Mercedes appreciation forum? :mad:

Wash your eyes out with soap and never mention the name again! ;)


We know were you are coming from Diana;) Corowa will be here soon enough get plenty of military chat there...........:D


Your pedantry knows no bounds Diana!

So your definition of "General Chat" and "almost anything goes" means no mercedes chat???


current and EX-Mill topic's have there own area, REMLR, not 'general chat' normanly, I think that's is what Diana is referring to;):)

Mrs hh:angel:

[wagoo]

So did anyone spot whether these G wagons had rear leaf springs and rear drum brakes, as previously reported by Blknight? I am amazed they would do that when the civvy version has coils and discs. If they have changed there must be a sound technical reason to do so IMO.
Wagoo.

[imatt]

Sorry to ruffle feathers by mentioning mercs on this forum, I know it might be a sensitive subject, but I thought general chat would be fine. Unfortunately I could not get close enough to see if they had leaf springs or not, there was a wire fence in the way.
Cheers Matt

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Matt

I trust you're going to hand in your paparazzi membership after you didn't get any images despite the sign.

Diana

PS I was only having a lend about the no Merc threads, some people don't know when to laugh!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

<snip>
So your definition of "General Chat" and "almost anything goes" means no mercedes chat???and no Hummer and no Ni$$aa..... argh I can't even spell the brand...... ;) :D :D :D


You know yesterday I was accused of treason for suggesting that someone use Toyota Land Cruiser studs on a trailer, today I'm pedantic when I type Land Rover myopia in jest!


Some people need to laugh a little more often........

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

and no Hummer and no Ni$$aa..... argh I can't even spell the brand...... ;) :D :D :D


You know yesterday I was accused of treason for suggesting that someone use Toyota Land Cruiser studs on a trailer, today I'm pedantic when I type Land Rover myopia in jest!


Some people need to laugh a little more often........

ZER VILL BE NO LAUGHINK HERE! ZER IZ NUSSINK FUNNY TO SEE!!! YOU VILL ALL GO BEK TO UND HAUS'S UND BE QVIET!!!

I Should start seeing a few thru my door here in WA shortly as I believe we are doing pre delivery on the WA vehicle pool and any warranty, however being mil vehicles will most likely be bound by agreement like we are with the MOG's we already do.

Andrew


Sent from my backyard TeePee using smoke signals.

[bob10]

This has probably been explained already, but are they selling the surplus Land Rovers to trhe public? And if so, where can we find details?[ who do I have to bribe] Bob:cool::angel:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

This has probably been explained already, but are they selling the surplus Land Rovers to trhe public? And if so, where can we find details?[ who do I have to bribe] Bob:cool::angel:Move down the centre of the bus!

You there sir, yes you Bob, get to the back of the queue! :)

Plenty more people camped on the footpath waiting for tickets before you! :D

BTW: No they are not up for auction yet, we're all waiting! :(

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/152.jpg

[87County]

Move down the centre of the bus!

You there sir, yes you Bob, get to the back of the queue! :)

Plenty more people camped on the footpath waiting for tickets before you! :D


http://www.rootforum1.com/style_emoticons/default/popcorn.gif


:D:D:D

... don't be deterred bob10 -

... highest offer beats anyone in the queue (it'll be an auction you see)

... & who knows how few or many buyers will even want one ??

[isuzutoo-eh]

Yeah those army rovers, POS. Unreliable, back breakingly rough, factor in a kidney transplant in the price. Need pop-eye's arms to steer one too. If your tooth fillings aren't well attached you'll be swallowing them.
Plus most of them have only 2 doors and no roof.
They have a 0-60km/h time of around two weeks if you can keep the fuel up to it, the army are still measuring the 0-100km/h time.
Not so bad I guess if you're used to walking everywhere, because not much will change. You'll still walk everywhere. They do have room for a bicycle in the back for when you want to get somewhere faster than walking.

Thats the truth, sure it is, back me up here someone...

[PAT303]

Out of interest,how much will you guys be prepared to pay for a Perentie?. Pat

[lambrover]

Yeah those army rovers, POS. Unreliable, back breakingly rough, factor in a kidney transplant in the price. Need pop-eye's arms to steer one too. If your tooth fillings aren't well attached you'll be swallowing them.
Plus most of them have only 2 doors and no roof.
They have a 0-60km/h time of around two weeks if you can keep the fuel up to it, the army are still measuring the 0-100km/h time.
Not so bad I guess if you're used to walking everywhere, because not much will change. You'll still walk everywhere. They do have room for a bicycle in the back for when you want to get somewhere faster than walking.

Thats the truth, sure it is, back me up here someone...

there not that bad, they are sprung heavy though as they are made for loading up so when empty thet are a little rough but better than a HJ75 cruiser. they have no power steering but you get used to it.

[isuzutoo-eh]

there not that bad, they are sprung heavy though as they are made for loading up so when empty thet are a little rough but better than a HJ75 cruiser. they have no power steering but you get used to it.

I may or may not know this, and may or may not be trying to spread falsehoods to keep their perceived value down so I may or may not be able to afford to buy more than one of them :D

[Mick_Marsh]

Yeah those army rovers, POS. Unreliable, back breakingly rough, factor in a kidney transplant in the price. Need pop-eye's arms to steer one too. If your tooth fillings aren't well attached you'll be swallowing them.
Plus most of them have only 2 doors and no roof.
They have a 0-60km/h time of around two weeks if you can keep the fuel up to it, the army are still measuring the 0-100km/h time.
Not so bad I guess if you're used to walking everywhere, because not much will change. You'll still walk everywhere. They do have room for a bicycle in the back for when you want to get somewhere faster than walking.

Thats the truth, sure it is, back me up here someone...
I'll back you up. I'm on record on this site confirming they are illegal and do not conform to the ADR's. It's a good point you raise that they are uncomfortable. I'd further that and say they are difficult to drive to the point they are dangerous.
As previously mentioned in another thread, if you see any of these death traps (especially the 6WD versions) offered for sale, notify me immediately with all the relevant details and I'll ensure this is dealt with by the proper authorities.
It is a burden, I know, but I am prepared to do this so you don't have to.

[bob10]

Thank you for the info, I'll see you all at the queue,by the way, I 'll be the one with the bag of brown snakes, no need to be alarmed, they are my petsssss, aren't you my darlingsssss!! :p

[PAT303]

So how much are you guys willing to pay?. Pat

[isuzutoo-eh]

Which one? GS, FFR or FFR with winch, 5 door station wagon, sixby GS, sixby ambo all different dollar values. Condition? KM? Too many variables. Different versions will attract different prices due to obscurity/collectability/convertability. I'd say ambos and if ever available LRPVs will be the higher end of the market.

And buying as a collector or for use as a tourer, bush basher or farm truck?

You can buy a rough old Isuzu County for under 5 grand if you are lucky, and they come better equipped for civvy use than the GS/FFR etc models. They also don't need repainting for those that aren't mil enthusiasts or just using it as a farm hack.

[Mick_Marsh]

So how much are you guys willing to pay?. Pat
At auction, a little more than the second highest bid.

[beefy]

i wouldnt pay more the 20 bucks. i hate driving them.

[PAT303]

I'm of the opinion they will go for too much,collectors will fight hard for the LRPV's. Pat

[cols110]

So did anyone spot whether these G wagons had rear leaf springs and rear drum brakes, as previously reported by Blknight? I am amazed they would do that when the civvy version has coils and discs. If they have changed there must be a sound technical reason to do so IMO.
Wagoo.

I would be surprised if they do have cart springs on the rear, as I have seen a lot of military and armoured G's go through the airport here in Dubai and the ones I have seen are all coliers.

[isuzurover]

I would be surprised if they do have cart springs on the rear, as I have seen a lot of military and armoured G's go through the airport here in Dubai and the ones I have seen are all coliers.

Has there ever been a g-wagen with leaf springs on the rear?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/138.jpg

[wagoo]

Has there ever been a g-wagen with leaf springs on the rear?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/138.jpg

It would be unusual for Mercedes to fit leaf springs to most anything short of a 4ton truck. Even many of their WW2 military vehicles were coiled from memory.
Wagoo.

[wagoo]

i wouldnt pay more the 20 bucks. i hate driving them.

Yeah, I think I'll hang on for another 20 years and get one of the 6x6 G Wagons.
Wagoo.

[bob10]

So how much are you guys willing to pay?. Pat

Too many unknowns to quote a price. Its often a case of wait and see on the day , buyers might get auction fever and inflate the price. As in most auctions, you have to do your homework, and this cant be done without inspection of the vehicles. The servicing history would be spot on, but chances are the vehicles would have had a hard life.All part of the allure of a vehicle auction. Bob

[THE BOOGER]

So how much are you guys willing to pay?. Pat

on the day of the auctions hard to say but when things quiet down I would say between 4-8 thou depending for a gs with winch thats a bit more than what countys are going for. A good condition late refurb might even fetch $12000,much more and they will not sell many:)

[PAT303]

I guess it would depend on how much it would cost to make it into the vehicle you want.I would pay 8 grand for one but it would need that again spent on it to suit my needs.You are getting into Td5 territory then and for a civy vehicle I think they are a better option. Pat

[isuzurover]

It would be unusual for Mercedes to fit leaf springs to most anything short of a 4ton truck. Even many of their WW2 military vehicles were coiled from memory.
Wagoo.

Indeed - even the mogs only have 2 coils, a panhard rod and a torque tube!

I think Dave must have been off with the fairies when he typed that. The new Gs seem to be good bits of kit...

I wonder if they still have a reverse rotation front diff like they used to???



I guess it would depend on how much it would cost to make it into the vehicle you want.I would pay 8 grand for one but it would need that again spent on it to suit my needs.You are getting into Td5 territory then and for a civy vehicle I think they are a better option. Pat

For the average person they are just an old 4x4 with no roof, no PAS, no turbo and no AC.

Though I imagine they may be popular for beach hire companies.

[wagoo]

Indeed - even the mogs only have 2 coils, a panhard rod and a torque tube!

I think Dave must have been off with the fairies when he typed that. The new Gs seem to be good bits of kit...

I wonder if they still have a reverse rotation front diff like they used to???



Possibly the 6x6 Gwags have an inverted centrally pivoted leaf spring and links rear bogie suspension, but that's different, and still IMO the best and simplest design for tandem drives.
I think the early GWag vehicles had a 2 shaft t/case with a reverse rotation front output shaft and the front diff was just a regular rear diff turned upside down to correct direction of wheel rotation.From the number of Rovers that get gWagon diff transplants in the UK, apparently this was changed some time ago to a conventional 3 shaft t/case and normal diff attitude.
wagoo.

[George130]

It is expected that the poor quality Landys will fetch around $30,000 at auction with the choice ones going as high as $60,000.

Guess that menas I will end up with all of them:twisted:.

[Mick_Marsh]

It is expected that the poor quality Landys will fetch around $30,000 at auction with the choice ones going as high as $60,000.

Guess that menas I will end up with all of them:twisted:.
Where did you get that info from?

[George130]

Where did you get that info from?

Honestly I didn't make it up:p.

Guess I'm busted making certain I'm the only bidder so I can get the lot for only $5.

[Mick_Marsh]

It is expected that the poor quality Landys will fetch around $30,000 at auction with the choice ones going as high as $60,000.

Guess that menas I will end up with all of them:twisted:.Where did you get that info from?
Honestly I didn't make it up:p.

Guess I'm busted making certain I'm the only bidder so I can get the lot for only $5.
I only ask because it sounds so cheap. I have it on good authority they'll go for much more.

[2stroke]

Back in the early nineties they sold off the series ones, I seem to remember they sold off for serious $$$ but soon after people bought them the reality of driving them hit and they sold them secondhand and a grand or 2 cheaper. I bought my old S2A REME at a good price from a guy who was replacing it with a Niva! Wonder how long that lasted him.

[isuzurover]

While all this is fun, I think it is still even money that someone up the top of the tree in the ADF or govt will decide that the perenties will be a perfect gift/donation for one of our neighbours.

[wagoo]

While all this is fun, I think it is still even money that someone up the top of the tree in the ADF or govt will decide that the perenties will be a perfect gift/donation for one of our neighbours.

Tempting to reply with a smart ar$e comment. But no I won't.:angel:
Wagoo.

[one_iota]

Tempting to reply with a smart ar$e comment. But no I won't.:angel:
Wagoo.


It's a pity you didn't Bill... it might liven up the thread a bit :p;)

I'm reminded of the myth about the existence of crates of WW2 Harley Davidsons being stashed in sheds around Australia for use in the event of invasion from the north. These are still to be discovered by eager Bikers.

And I think that Ben is right: the largess gained from moving these vehicles onto an "ally" is much greater than their civilian retail value.

[isuzurover]

Tempting to reply with a smart ar$e comment. But no I won't.:angel:
Wagoo.

Don't hold back on my account Bill :D

[wagoo]

Don't hold back on my account Bill :D
Well I was going to say that if we donated them to Indonesia then at least we'll be safe from the threat of a successful land invasion. But the reality is that the Perenties are not a bad bit of gear.Unlike.....No I won't:)
Wagoo.

[86mud]

Any ideas where the old landy's will be auctioned?


Be interesting to be there on the day of each auction.

Cheers
Andrew