Speed limits to be raised

[MickS]

There is light at the end of the speed camera-filled tunnel.

SPEED camera "traps" will be eliminated and speed limits lifted on roads across NSW under a complete overhaul of traffic management planned by the Coalition.

Speed limits to be raised | The Daily Telegraph (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/speed-limits-to-be-raised/story-e6frewt0-1226012535385)

[Barefoot Dave]

A Cynic might say "populist vote grabber that will never be fully implemented, but you might see 5-10 speed signs changed!"
Too much money in the kitty from the system.
Dave.

[MickS]

Definitely a vote grabber, but mind you, I don't think they have to do too much to roll KK. If there is such thing as being handed an election on a silver platter, this one is it.

10 is fine in my book. The 80's back up to 90, the tons back up to 110. Some 50's back to 60...it's the ones that are all over the place like a mad woman's **** that I hope they target.

[ugu80]

:Rolling: Yeah. Sure they will. They'll get right onto it as soon as they get elected. No more speed traps. Right there with 'There will be no carbon tax in a government I lead'.

[twodoors]

Wouldn't get too excited... Vote grabbing and as the Welsh Witch has shown its all too easy to go back on election promises.... :twisted:

[PhilipA]

The RTA will fight this tooth and nail.
I understand the guy in charge of speed limit setting has an agenda to lower limits further in metro areas to 40Kmh.
I would love it to happen, but when did you last see a speed limit raised.
Regards Philip A

[harry]

There is light at the end of the speed camera-filled tunnel.

SPEED camera "traps" will be eliminated and speed limits lifted on roads across NSW under a complete overhaul of traffic management planned by the Coalition.

Speed limits to be raised | The Daily Telegraph (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/speed-limits-to-be-raised/story-e6frewt0-1226012535385)


bull****.

and are they also going to increase the breath test limit?

[Hoges]

perhaps they'll put a new bloke in charge of the RTA (Raising Transport Aggravation) !!

[abaddonxi]

Saw this on SMH.

Professor Cameron said Victoria attempted to increase speed limits by 10km/h in 1987 which proved a disaster, with the state experiencing a 20 per cent increase in the injury rate, including fatalities, on rural freeways.
When the 100km/h limit was reintroduced, the rate decreased by 20 per cent, Professor Cameron said.


Increasing speed limits a serious mistake, say experts (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/state-election-2011/increasing-speed-limits-a-serious-mistake-say-experts-20110227-1ba18.html)

[trog]

just to ask a question , what would the agreed speed limits be, in a school zone out front the old age home we will one day find each other or cruising through an area with little or no sign posting of residential road numbers or upcoming streets. 70 or 80 is fine if i have abs but does the vehicle behind me? and as the speed increases so does fuel use but it isnt getting cheaper, the number of vehicles per kilometer of roadway is increasing so how can i safely and economically drive faster?

[Redback]

Wouldn't get too excited... Vote grabbing and as the Welsh Witch has shown its all too easy to go back on election promises.... :twisted:

Who is the Welsh Witch:confused:

[drivesafe]

Who is the Welsh Witch:confused:

She’s easy to ID. She’s the one with all the knives :twisted:

Hay how do you pick Australian tourists overseas.

They’re all the ones walking around with the knives sticking out of their backs.:angel:

[feral]

Who is the Welsh Witch:confused:

The one who said...'There will be no Carbon Tax under my government' who then announced a Carbon Tax. She then spent Friday denying that never such words were said and to the point of calling respected journalists liars, mischievous and wrong. 'Go to the transcripts' she screamed :twisted:

The one who has now gone full circle and has stated 'Yes, I did say 'There will be no Carbon Tax' but stuff you anyway:2up:

[p38arover]

Who is the Welsh Witch:confused:

Gillard.

[Bigbjorn]

About time limits were raised. Speed limits in Qld. have not changed since 1960 other than metric conversion and a few kilometres of motorway being increased to 110 k's.

There have been exponential improvements in roads and vehicles since then.

[ugu80]

About time limits were raised. Speed limits in Qld. have not changed since 1960 other than metric conversion and a few kilometres of motorway being increased to 110 k's.

There have been exponential improvements in roads and vehicles since then.


Be thankfull. The only way they change is down.

[p38arover]

About time limits were raised. Speed limits in Qld. have not changed since 1960 other than metric conversion and a few kilometres of motorway being increased to 110 k's.

There have been exponential improvements in roads and vehicles since then.


Be thankfull. The only way they change is down.

Yep. I remember many roads around here were derestricted, then became 100km/h. Now the roads are greatly improved but they are 80km/h and often almost completely double white lined whereas previously one had many places to overtake.

The NSW RTA also seems to follow a doctrine of symmetrical placement of speed zone changes. That is, where the speed limit changes downward, on the upward speed change on the other side of the road will be in the same place. A good (bad) example of this blinkered thinking is on the F3 at Wahroonga. The speed change upward from 80 to 110 could be done much sooner but the RTA has place that change at the some location as the change down from 110 to 80.

It really annoys me.

[TerryO]

Why would they say they are going to standardise the speed limits around the State and then not do it? Its not like they need to make any promises to win this election. Thay could only cause themselves grief by backing away from this undertaking.

Call me naive but I believe the man when he says this what he intends to do.

I can't wait till that great pretender of pedestrian rights Harold Scrubbie or what ever he calls himself starts whinging on TV again. Now their is a giant fraud, who on this planet belongs to the Pedestrian Council, I bet the only two members are him and maybe his mum.

cheers,
Terry

[Disco44]

The one who said...'There will be no Carbon Tax under my government' who then announced a Carbon Tax. She then spent Friday denying that never such words were said and to the point of calling respected journalists liars, mischievous and wrong. 'Go to the transcripts' she screamed :twisted:

The one who has now gone full circle and has stated 'Yes, I did say 'There will be no Carbon Tax' but stuff you anyway:2up:

We need another election here in Australia urgently.What people were thinking when they voted for the "snivel Libertarians" instead of Labor as they did not want to vote for the Libs,has me stymied. The greens have only just started screwing us,so watch out for more
Trouble is we cant get another crack at them in the Senate for a few years.They are still strutting around like bantam roosters which we deserve as we voted them in.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Have to agree there are too many speed changes, on the Southern Cross Drive in one spot you can see three speed zones.

The drop to 50KPH from 70KPH at Heathcote for a 6 lane road with a fence on the median strip is ridiculous and obviously aimed at revenue.

I can never understand why the 4-6 lane divided road M6/Princes Hwy around Wollongong is 80-100KPH when parts of the Hume Highway are not divided yet maintain the 110 KPH speed. The Camera at Gwyneville targets motorists who can see a sign increasing the speed from 80KPH to 90KPH.

Diana

[ugu80]

Why would they say they are going to standardise the speed limits around the State and then not do it? Its not like they need to make any promises to win this election. Thay could only cause themselves grief by backing away from this undertaking.

Call me naive but I believe the man when he says this what he intends to do.

I can't wait till that great pretender of pedestrian rights Harold Scrubbie or what ever he calls himself starts whinging on TV again. Now their is a giant fraud, who on this planet belongs to the Pedestrian Council, I bet the only two members are him and maybe his mum.

cheers,
Terry

The RTA is an entrenched monolithic bureaucracy of great power and influence. You are mistaken if you think a minister can easily change that organisation. The organisation will change the minister unless said minister is an unusually strong and single minded individual.

The other part is that the labor party has left the cupboard bare and the libs will become as addicted to fine revenue as every other government.

[TerryO]

The RTA is an entrenched monolithic bureaucracy of great power and influence. You are mistaken if you think a minister can easily change that organisation. The organisation will change the minister unless said minister is an unusually strong and single minded individual.



Is that right about the RTA being a monolithic bureaucracy of great power and influence Humphry? ...Yes Minister!

;)

cheers,
Terry

[blitz]

Nar the poms had it right about a hundred years ago you could drive a car but you had to have a footman walking in front of you waving a red? flag to alert anyone it was coming.

actually ban all cars and go back to horses or push bike

When the NT went from open speed limit to 130kph top speed we had a four fold increase in fatalities but the experts including some moronic professors publicly stated that it was ridiculous to say it was because of lowering the speed limit, it was just a coincidence?????

go figure

Accept it we live in a nanny state where the vocal minority get their way

[wouldbeowner]

Have to agree there are too many speed changes, on the Southern Cross Drive in one spot you can see three speed zones.

I used to drive from Annandale to Lansvale - straight down P'matta Rd then straight down Hume Hwy.
Depending on time of the day, day of the week and week of the year there were up to 14 changes of speed zone.

[MickS]

All big Barry has to do is make sure he is still breathing come election day and he will be the next premier.

It's amusing that 99.9% of the time, all we seem to do is whinge about politicians. When one makes an announcement that an audit will be conducted with a view to rationalising the many ridiculous speed changes which occur over short distances and would be of benefit to all and sundry, they get shot down. That's the aussie way though.

[mudmouse]

It seems to be the 'aussie way' - bit gutless when 'we' can't come up with a better idea and implement it. Still, maybe part of the problem is being jaded by a long list of previous lies and BS....

If i were King it'd be 60, 80, 120 speed limits. If the road can't handle that, then fix it so it can. No school zone reduced speed limits - teach the youngsters (and their parents) to stay off the road, and if they're isn't the infrastructure there to do that, then build it, because fixed and mobile speed cameras are a JOKE!:twisted:

Any highway between capitals should be 120 easy - look at the Pacific - it's lined with crosses and some very touching memorials to truck drivers, and they're the ones the relatives can afford to travel to and stick a cross in the dirt.

I hope they do amend the limit for practicality, but the quality of the roads need work too.

Matt

[Redback]

Gillard.

OK, I assumed we were talking about the NSW election:eek:

Oh BTW Gillard is a French/English name:p

Baz.

[ugu80]

Just to jog your memories (if you're old enough), the Carr labor government promised the same thing coming up to an election in the late '90's, maybe even early '00's.

(Sir Humphrey) - What a courageous decision, Minister.

p.s. Just got off the phone to mate in the RTA system. Quote: "There will probably be a few token changes (to speed limits) in some places, then they'll just let it die down and that will be about it."

[Disco44]

They are all politicians,of every political colour.They promise the world,which 99% of the time does not eventuate.Bill Hayden once said " A brown dog could win the next election".Well it looks that way this time in NSW but remember it has all been done before and somehow Labor ends up getting back after the Libs have had their way after one or two terms.If you look at the last Federal election the vote against Federal Labor was nowhere as high as expected in NSW so the same could show up in the state election,even though NSW labor has done everything possible to shoot themselves in the foot and hand the poll to the conservatives.
This upcoming election is not the interesting one but the next one ( remember the brown dog) when the winning party of this one will be judged on performance.History shows the conservatives to not be a good state government in NSW.

[Disco44]

They are all politicians,of every political colour.They promise the world,which 99% of the time does not eventuate.Bill Hayden once said " A brown dog could win the next election".Well it looks that way this time in NSW but remember it has all been done before and somehow Labor ends up getting back after the Libs have had their way after one or two terms.If you look at the last Federal election the vote against Federal Labor was nowhere as high as expected in NSW so the same could show up in the state election,even though NSW labor has done everything possible to shoot themselves in the foot and hand the poll to the conservatives.
This upcoming election is not the interesting one but the next one ( remember the brown dog) when the winning party of this one will be judged on performance.History shows the conservatives to not be a good state government in NSW.
But a change is as good as a holiday,wise men say.

[p38arover]

OK, I assumed we were talking about the NSW election:eek:

Oh BTW Gillard is a French/English name:p

Maybe it is but she comes from Wales.

[ugu80]

Sorry for being pedantic Disco44, it was a drovers' dog.

[Ace]

The only ones that will be raised are the ones in country areas where there are single lane Highways that are flat and straight, and so they should be.

What really needs to be done is existing speed limits need to be assessed and made sure they are justified.

The only 5 star road in NSW is the M7 in sydney and its 100km/h, yet the M4 is 110 for the most part, thats just arse about.

From Penrith to Lithgow there are more than 40 speed limit changes, the highest of which is 90km/h at the lithgow end.

All this needs addressing. Its easy to put speed cameras up in areas where the speed limit changes all the time because its hard for people to keep up with what they are supposed to be doing unless they drive the road regularly.

The example used in the article where one side of a freeway is 80km/h and is the highest grossing stationary camera in NSW, yet the other side of the freeway is 100km/h.

There is no logic to how they are determined. The road between lithgow and Bathurst was 110km/h for some time, the road deteriorated in condition and the speed limit was lowered to 100 because changing a half dozen signs is cheaper than maintaining a road. The same thing has happened on Bells Line and the great westerh highway between the M4 and Lithgow.

Matt

[p38arover]

The only 5 star road in NSW is the M7 in sydney and its 100km/h, yet the M4 is 110 for the most part, thats just arse about.

I really don't understand the M7 speed limit. The road has variable speed limit signs so why not let 110 be the limit at least some of the time.

[Hoges]

Why would they say they are going to standardise the speed limits around the State and then... etc

who on this planet belongs to the Pedestrian Council, I bet the only two members are him and maybe his mum.

cheers,
Terry

Ummm...Mr Walker?:angel::wasntme:

[abaddonxi]

Ummm...Mr Walker?:angel::wasntme:

Ghost who walks, man who cannot die?

Or the jaunty man with the top hat and the cane?

:D

[MickS]

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Yup.....:no2: