Disco 4 Long Range Tank

[go-disco4]

Hi All,

There have been some old trheads on this but none for specifically for Disco 3/4.

I am fitting a 104 litre Long Ranger (Newcastle) to my Disco 4.

This will require fitting of a rear wheel swing bar carrier as well.

This will be the 4X4 Intelligence one.

Anyone with experience of these products for Disco 3/4?

Have they worked out well? Were there any problems?

In particular any "rattling" or structural problems

with the Swing bar or problem with the bar catch/lock?

Any problems with the tank being damaged from hitting rocks

and crunching on the dirt or from corrugations? Problem with fuel
transfer?

Problems with departure angles?

many thanks

Go-Disco 4

[Tote]

I'm watching with intetrest, I have the 4x4 intelligence carrier in my shed waiting to be fitted and am impressed with the build quality and design. My only grumble is I've got to go and buy 3 wheel nuts as they aren't supplied.
I'm probably going to get the Long ranger tank as well.

Regards,
Tote

[Bushwanderer]

Hi Tote,
That's a surprise, as mine came with the wheelnuts.

Check with Simon, perhaps they omitted to fit them (or they were "lost" in transit.

Best Wishes,
Peter

[Chris Preso]

I am nervous about extra tanks after losing a replacement tank out of a 300tdi Defender about 15 years ago. It took a few knocks up cape york and some rough corros a few months later dropped right out and was in the centre of my rearview mirror - not a good look.

From what I have seen of the D4 extra tanks they are designed with less opportunity to be knocked about, but still sit low enough to keep me nervous. I would like one though.

Cheers. Chris

[discojools]

Me and another friend of mine bought the below mentioned wheel carrier. They both came with the three nuts but very difficult to get after sales service when we had problems. Worked well once the problems were eventually overcome!

[go-disco4]

Thanks All

Hi Discojools,

When did you buy the bar, apparently the older versions had some problems

regards

GD4

[Gaviatrix]

Any problems with the tank being damaged from hitting rocks

and crunching on the dirt or from corrugations?
Go-Disco 4

I was browsing OL’s site last night and saw they have a bash plate for an auxiliary fuel tank (priced at $265), which might address the concern in your original post about damage:

http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?action=prodcatalogue&form_name=view_product&category_id=410&product_id=172&pageID=10062&sectionID=0 (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?action=prodcatalogue&form_name=view_product&category_id=410&product_id=172&pageID=10062&sectionID=0)

Cheers, Gavin

[Stuart02]

Hmmm - the OL tank is only 80L though, while the Long Ranger is 104... wonder if the guard would still fit.

The Long Ranger site does say that their tank 'retains standard departure angle', although there's nothing to say that once that angle is exceeded, that the first thing to drag on a rock won't be the tank. Maybe the 104 litre option is just a bit greedy, depending on intended use?

[Geedublya]

I have a LR 105l tank on my 3, It has a couple of scrapes (nothing serious though) that were there when I got the car. It seems solidly mounted and the departure angle looks OK. It definitely will scrap before anything except for the towbar (plough).
In the little off road work I have done there have been no issues.
I have the kaymar rear bar with double spare carriers. It is very solid but I suspect there is a lot of extra weight with 105l of fuel and tank, steel rear bar and carriers and two spares. When I deflated to 18psi on the beach last weekend the rear tyres where definitely bulging more than the fronts.

[NavyDiver]

Hi All,

There have been some old trheads on this but none for specifically for Disco 3/4.

I am fitting a 104 litre Long Ranger (Newcastle) to my Disco 4.

This will require fitting of a rear wheel swing bar carrier as well.

This will be the 4X4 Intelligence one.

Anyone with experience of these products for Disco 3/4?

Have they worked out well? Were there any problems?

In particular any "rattling" or structural problems

with the Swing bar or problem with the bar catch/lock?

Any problems with the tank being damaged from hitting rocks

and crunching on the dirt or from corrugations? Problem with fuel
transfer?

Problems with departure angles?

many thanks

Go-Disco 4

I have the opersite lock LR fuel tank on a D3. The tank is for both D3 or D4. Mitchem Vic store fitted it for me. Zero problems on departure angle and the mounts are solid as a rock. I have sat the back on mud and a few hard bits to date while in heavey track and ruts. The gents in opersite lock did not think it needed the cover and nor do I. The cover would add a little insurance if you felt it was needed.
I am a little confused about the link on the web site as I am sure mine (like Geedublyas) is 105 litres not the 80litres I could see. The second tank drains in to my main tank with me running down to under 5 litres to test. It drains 100%. I tossed the Plow for a better hitch ( anyone want a plow) your new bar may not get rid of your plow? I looked at Kaymar bars but they told me they used the d3 hitch still! They sell a Mitchell Brothers hitch thankfully

[go-disco4]

The OL tank is a Dolium supplied Front Runner tank. Comparing the pictures, the LR tank appears to hang no lower than the smaller 80L FR tank.

I'll ask if the OL (FR) tank guard will fit the LR tank. this weighs 21 kg

The main tank is just behind the right front wheel and is at or just below chassis level, so it may well be more prone to damage than the LR aux tank!

I thought of the Kaymar dual wheel carrier, but it is very heavy, so I went for a single carrier. The I 4X4 carrier can have the rear sensor fitted back to the bar and been told it functions as normal

should be fittted in late May. Let you know how it goes

GD4

[ADMIRAL]

Hi All,

There have been some old trheads on this but none for specifically for Disco 3/4.

I am fitting a 104 litre Long Ranger (Newcastle) to my Disco 4.

This will require fitting of a rear wheel swing bar carrier as well.

This will be the 4X4 Intelligence one.

Anyone with experience of these products for Disco 3/4?

Have they worked out well? Were there any problems?

In particular any "rattling" or structural problems

with the Swing bar or problem with the bar catch/lock?

Any problems with the tank being damaged from hitting rocks

and crunching on the dirt or from corrugations? Problem with fuel
transfer?

Problems with departure angles?

many thanks

Go-Disco 4
?? Plenty of threads on this for the D3/D4. Also check under the FAQ's. Plenty of data and leads there. I have the LongRanger tank and the Dolium wheel carrier. The tank has a better departure angle than the OE located spare wheel. If you want one with a guard, Dolium have one, about 85 litre capacity I think, so you do lose a bit of range. No rattles or noise to date. If you want a water tank as well, Longranger have an 80 odd litre fuel tank, with a 20 something litre water tank on the top. Same basic size as the 105 litre fuel tank.

[go-disco4]

Thanks Admiral

Found your threads back in 2010. Useful discussions

[petera]

HI,
I am going to have a look at the Brown Davis long range tank which Mitchell Bros have. They say it is 120l and wont affect departure angle etc.
Cheers,
Peter

[jonesfam]

Is there such a thing as a larger fuel tank that fits into the some position (more or less) as the original fuel tank?
Jonesfam

[petera]

Is there such a thing as a larger fuel tank that fits into the some position (more or less) as the original fuel tank?
Jonesfam

From trolling through lots of older posts on this subject, I think the answer is no: my understanding is that the existing tank is a really tight fit as it is.
Cheers,
Peter

[Bushwanderer]

Hi jonesfam,
Not to my knowledge. :(

Best Wishes,
Peter

[jonesfam]

Poo!
So to get extended range you have to buy a spare wheel carrier or put the spare on the roof.
Pity, guess I will just leave well enough alone for now.
The roof is not an option as both the wife & I are vertically challenged. I struggle to load/unload the roof pod.
Jonesfam

[Plane Fixer]

When I first got a Patrol I put large tanks in. The rear tank is unprotected and over the years had many a scrape but no damage.
I expect the 120l tank will be the same. I for one would not bother with a guard for it as if you do bottom out the guard could be ripped out and may cause other damage. The other thing is 80l with guard and 120l without guard is, for me, a no brainer as either way you have to fit a spare wheel carrier.

[go-disco4]

Hi All,

Thanks for all the comments and advice

Ritter (Melb) fitted the Long Ranger (104 l) aux tank and the 4X4 Intelligence rear wheel carrier 2 days ago. No guard.

Looks good and all wokring well.

go-disco4

[101RRS]

It seems to me that if the exhaust was re-routed a 80litre sized tank could go on the opposite side of the car to the fitted tank - I guess the extra work required means this is not an option for the tank builders as it would be a lot more expensive to one in the rear - however when the cost of the wheel carrier is taken into account maybe costs would be similar.

Garry

[bbyer]

Since I changed the transmission oil and filter a month ago, it is like my gasoline tank is a hundred kilometres bigger - maybe 200 for paved highway. 2005 gasoline 4.4l V8 LR3 HSE

I used to get about 16.5 litres / 100 km around town; now it is more like 15. On the highway, previously maybe also 15 litres / 100 km on a good clear highway; today with the air conditioning on, sunny, OAT about 21C, speeds 120 kph I got a bit better than 12 litres / 100 km measured.

I have never seen fuel consumption as low as that in the last couple of years so I conclude my tranny must have been slipping or something and the oil and filter change improved something. Acceleration is also better.

For me, this was way cheaper than a bigger fuel tank and my spare still hangs underneath.

[Redback]

Any photos of these auxillary tanks fitted, I wouldn't mind seeing how they look for clearence, do they hang lower than the spare wheel:confused:

Baz.

[Owl]

Any photos of these auxillary tanks fitted, I wouldn't mind seeing how they look for clearence, do they hang lower than the spare wheel:confused:

Baz.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/458.jpg

[Graeme]

Be aware that having a fuel tank as the point of contact with regard to departure angles doesn't have the same roadworthiness as a spare wheel, even though the tank might not be as low.

[drowell]

Great to have the extra capacity.
You just have to be aware of the tank. Clearance is not compromised and it depends if you are out there looking for trouble.
If so - buy a Defender.

[go-disco4]

I was concerned about the fuel tank being the point of contact too. But this forum did not showed any adverse happenings due to the tank.

Also the original tank hangs down to the lower edge of the chassis, and there is probably more chance of knocking this than the Aux tank.

GD4

[go-disco4]

see diagram of original fuel tank between chassis member and transmission shaft

gd4

[Graeme]

I'm mindful of the occasions when I've slid the rear of my RRC and D2s down rock ledges on the towbar support bars that protected the fuel tank and would be happier to see something similar on the D3/4. However being able to select more height on the D3/4 lessens the exposure, along with less overhang anyway. I'd like to fit a RWC to get the spare out from under the vehicle and if I did, I'd probably later fit a LR tank too.

[ADMIRAL]

I have the LongRanger tank, but if the underbody clearance or vulnerability is of real concern, have a look at the tank from Dolium. The capacity is reduced from 100 odd litres down to about 85 ( i think ) , but it comes with a substantial steel guard sitting off the tank. Overall it sits no lower than the other offerings.

[TerryO]

Not sure how sturdy the various brands of long range tanks are but the one that you see commonly fitted on D1's is incredibly strong and rock resilient.

Going off road in my D1 in rough stuff on a number of occassions the old girl has ended up sliding down steep rock steps on the long range tank and apart from the odd dent or scratch it has stood up very well to the abuse and because of the taper on the tank it actually makes it easy to slide down some drop offs.

Sure no one wants to put dents or scratches in a shiny new tank but sometimes you may have little choice if your intended use for your D3/4 is to go seriously off road in the rough stuff.

Mind you I guess that is when having a modded D1 can come in handy sometimes, a few more dents and scratchs is not the end of the world on a D1.

cheers,
Terry