EXHAUST GAS TEMPERATURE GAUGE - PUMA

[Drover]

Hey guys,

I have recently completed some performance upgrades to the PUMA.:D

Despite being assured that these modifications will not cause any EGT problems, I would feel better having an EGT gauge fitted so I can monitor it for my self.

Has any body installed this gauge or had one fitted ?

If so, is the sensor before or after the turbo ?

How is the sensor fitted ? (drilled and tapped or other)

Any advice, photo's (particularly of the sensor) or comments are most welcome.

Cheers
Grant

[Benny_IIA]

Hey guys,

I have recently completed some performance upgrades to the PUMA.:D

Despite being assured that these modifications will not cause any EGT problems, I would feel better having an EGT gauge fitted so I can monitor it for my self.
good idea

Has any body installed this gauge or had one fitted ?

If so, is the sensor before or after the turbo ?

before is better the common agreed max is 750c. There can be between 100 and 200 c drop aross the turbo so your playing a guessing game if you put it down stream.

How is the sensor fitted ? (drilled and tapped or other)

Drilled and tapped in the manifold or a hole is drill in the dump pipe and a nut is welded there.

Any advice, photo's (particularly of the sensor) or comments are most welcome.

Cheers
Grant

Also are you running a decat dump on puma?

[Drover]

Hey Benny_IIA,

Thanks for your input,

I have been thinking of an exhaust up grade, probably just a de-cat pipe and possible removal of the centre muffler.

Do you think this is the way to go ?

Cheers

[Naks]

I have the Madman EMS system which monitors EGT, coolant temp & level, oil pressure, transfer box oil temp, voltage. Everything has an alarm level which you can set and will go off as soon as the threshold is reached.

It fits nicely on the Puma dash as well:


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/874.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/707.jpg

[puma90]

Anyone know of a supplier/installer in Brisbane.

[Iain_B]

Hi Naks, hoe gaan dit my jou? :) - just to be clear what we need to buy to match what you have - it would be the EMS 2, the long harness, and the Puma kit?

Total cost excluding shipping is: R3706 - or $512 AUD approximately?

Thanks

Iain


I have the Madman EMS system which monitors EGT, coolant temp & level, oil pressure, transfer box oil temp, voltage. Everything has an alarm level which you can set and will go off as soon as the threshold is reached.

It fits nicely on the Puma dash as well:


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/874.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/707.jpg

[Naks]

just to be clear what we need to buy to match what you have - it would be the EMS 2, the long harness, and the Puma kit? Total cost excluding shipping is: R3706 - or $512 AUD approximately?


Iain, yep, that sounds about right. Just be aware that to mount the EMS2 in the dash like I did will mean drilling a hole the size of the EMS2 in the dash!

You also cannot measure both the transfer box temp and the engine oil temp, I chose the transfer box since coolant temp and oil pressure are already monitored.

[Nera Donna]

Just sent these guys an E-mail
Nata Enterprises (http://www.nata.net.au/shop/)
Asking price, availability, shipping cost etc.
Their link is on the bottom of the 'Madman' web sites contact page.
Their 'Nata' web site doesnt show a unit for the Puma's. Hence the E-mail
I you guys want I'll post what they send back to me?
Cheers
Craig

[rijidij]

.......................If so, is the sensor before or after the turbo ?

There has been a lot of discussion on the forum about where a Thermocouple Sensor should be located, ie upstream or downstream of the turbo. Have a look at this web page for an explanation and other useful info Thermocouple Sensor (http://www.thermoguard.com.au/instal.html)

The majority of sensors will be drilled and tapped.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1219.jpg

[Benny_IIA]

Hey Benny_IIA,

Thanks for your input,

I have been thinking of an exhaust up grade, probably just a de-cat pipe and possible removal of the centre muffler.

Do you think this is the way to go ?

Cheers

depending on how much you want to spend.

On budget:
There are lots of companys doing de cats and mid pipe replacements (td5 alive, bas, terrafirma etc)


No budget:
I ran a 3" mandrel bent system on my last defender (td5) and will be putting the same on my new td5 90. may do 2.75"

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

eBay item number 170514442135 from seller warehouse_fc. Excellent gauge being stepper motor driven.

You need to a cobalt tipped drillbit 8.5mm and a 1/8 NPT tap.
Drill it on the exhaust manifold right in front of the turbo mount where the runners converge. Will usually require the removal of the turbo and a vacuum cleaner in the end of the manifold to suck any swarf out while drilling. This is the easiest part of the whole install.

Andrew


Using Capitals, the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse or helping your uncle jack off a horse...

[Nera Donna]

Recieved a quote from 'Nata Enterprises'
$551 and some change, delivered to my door in Perth.
EMS unit and extension harness.
Time to talk nice to 'She who must be Obeyed':(

[def9087]

has this EGT probe in the picture been bent or did you buy like this? and where did you get it?
i have been sent a 100mm probe which is far too long to fit in the manifold as is (td5)

[def9087]

There has been a lot of discussion on the forum about where a Thermocouple Sensor should be located, ie upstream or downstream of the turbo. Have a look at this web page for an explanation and other useful info Thermocouple Sensor (http://www.thermoguard.com.au/instal.html)

The majority of sensors will be drilled and tapped.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1219.jpg
has this EGT probe in the picture been bent or did you buy like this? and where did you get it?
i have been sent a 100mm probe which is far too long to fit in the manifold as is (td5)

[def9087]

There has been a lot of discussion on the forum about where a Thermocouple Sensor should be located, ie upstream or downstream of the turbo. Have a look at this web page for an explanation and other useful info Thermocouple Sensor (http://www.thermoguard.com.au/instal.html)

The majority of sensors will be drilled and tapped.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1219.jpg
has this EGT probe in the picture been bent or did you buy like this? and where did you get it?
i have been sent a 100mm probe which is far too long to fit in the manifold as is (td5)

[bee utey]

That probe is exactly the same as the one that comes with the Auber kit:

DIGITAL EGT THERMOMETER PYROMETER W/ PROBE-NPT (eBay item 200397678339 end time 15-Jul-11 22:59:09 AEST) : Business Industrial (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200397678339&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

In fact their pic is the same pic, that is how they come.

They sell loose probes through their website if you don't like ebay, www.auberins.com

[retromatic]

Hi guys,

I just purchased a madman EMS3 for my Defender 130 Puma 2.4 from Nata Enterprises it cost around $700 all up with shipping.

The kit come with what I believe is a cheap Chinese made EGT ( Chinese writing all over the plastic packet). I say cheap because the wire is single strand for each and the thickness of stainless steel braiding is very average. The NTP fitting that screws into the manifold has also quite a short thread. Compared to an EGT sensor I purchased from a specialist, that one came with multi-stranded wires at least 4 and if you look closely the entire sensor is fitted with thicker gauge steel sheathing, etc.

I have exhaust wrapped a terrafirma dump pipe and the manifold itself.

The hole in the manifold is drilled to the left (closer to rear engine) side of where the turbo bolts up. There is a flat circular dimple in the manifold casting where I believe it should go.

I inserted the probe so it's tip is at the centre of the internal diameter of the manifold piping.

As for temps etc, I have not run it up yet as this is on a new engine and I'm still to finish the install. I will reply back once I have some readings etc.

Also photos show the dimple and the madman installed in dash.

All the best,

Damo
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