no blinkers.....HELP!

[86mud]

Ok. so now the blinkers on my 1998 Defender 300Tdi are not working.

Blinker fuses are all ok (left and right 5amp each) - but I need some help. I was just using a test light and when I have the key turned off, there is power running through the actual blinker arm. Is this right? The end button for the horn works when the key is not in the ignition. Is this right?

The blinker arm has always been a bit loose since I picked up the car. I have replaced just about everything else so could it just be the blinker switch?

What about the flasher unit? Where does this hide?

Everything else works and I have checked all the fuses.

Thanks

Andrew

[scott oz]

I believe the flasher can is behind the instrument binnacle. There are about four relays all mounted off the fire wall.

Just undo the instrument panel and move it to one side and you should be able to see them. No need to remove the entire dash.

[steveG]

My blinker switch was physically broken when I got my 110 - the part that clamps it to the steering column. From memory when I did a bit of research it was a common problem.
Didn't actually stop the blinkers working, but perhaps it depends where the break is. Its pretty easy to get to once you've got the steering wheel off if you want to check (and you'll also be able to bypass the switch for testing).

Steve

[86mud]

SteveG

School me on bypassing the blinker switch. I have disconnected the plugs and on the plug from the main harness, using a test light I get power from one wire (with the ignition off). Do I just connect this live wire to the others in the plug (via a test wire) and see if the blinkers light up?

Should the ignition be on or off when I do this test?

Cheers
Andrew

[weeds]

SteveG

School me on bypassing the blinker switch. I have disconnected the plugs and on the plug from the main harness, using a test light I get power from one wire (with the ignition off). Do I just connect this live wire to the others in the plug (via a test wire) and see if the blinkers light up?

Should the ignition be on or off when I do this test?

Cheers
Andrew

Andrew are you on my side of town, pretty sure I have a new switch sitting in my box of parts, you are welcome to fit it to see if it solves your problem

[86mud]

Thanks Kelvin

I have just ordered a new blinker switch so I should have that by tomorrow. The current blinker switch does feel very loose and sloppy so I am hoping that is the problem. I have recently replaced the headlight switch and the wiper switch so it probably feels left out.

Cheers
Andrew

[steveG]

SteveG

School me on bypassing the blinker switch. I have disconnected the plugs and on the plug from the main harness, using a test light I get power from one wire (with the ignition off). Do I just connect this live wire to the others in the plug (via a test wire) and see if the blinkers light up?

Should the ignition be on or off when I do this test?

Cheers
Andrew

Basically thats what I'd be doing.
Its only indicators, horn and hi/lo beam on the switch - so work out the 3 wires involved for the indicators and just make the connection between the appropriate ones using a test wire.

Yes - ignition should be on.

Or Weeds offer is even easier :-)

Steve

[ScottW]

May or may not help, but when the blinkers were playing up in my 88 County, is was due to the hazzard light switch. The blinkers are routed through that at some point. Replaced the switch, fixed the problem.

[stig0000]

if all the other functions work,, id say its not the inedrcator but the relay,, mine died on my fender and was only a cracked solder in the relay,,, id do that first, mine was the same,, lost all and the hazzar switch didnet work eather, was all down to the relay

[Blknight.aus]

check the hazard light switch first, and once you have that off all the pins you need to diagnose everything related to the indicators is available from the one plug.

[roverrescue]

"check the hazard light switch first, and once you have that off all the pins you need to diagnose everything related to the indicators is available from the one plug."

This is your diagnostic clue.
Search for a diagram for the hazard switch - all your woes will be revealed.

Steve

[GuyG]

the flasher unit on my 98 was on the firewall behind the gear levers near the fuses and some relays, replaced it problem solved:)

[86mud]

Thanks guys....I will hunt around for the flasher unit.

When I first picked my truck from the previous owner, one issue I had with the roadworthy was the hazard light switch...my mate doing the roadworthy picked up that the hazard switch was not working and when it was removed we found no wires attached to it!!! Could not even located the wires behind the dash ( I was new to Defenders back then so was not entirely sure what I was looking for) But the blinkers have been working for the past 2 years with a hazard switch.

One thing that I was concerned about was as per my previous thread regarding the installation of a transmission guard.

I had to drill out the 10mm holes in the chassis rail to 12.5mm to fit the HT bolts. Upon closer inspection after I drilled out the hole, I noticed that the wiring harness runs through the chassis rail on the drivers side of the 130. I was worried that I had nicked it with the bigger drill and severed the blinker wire. All other lights work out the back. Using a torch I have looked the harness and it looks ok.

Just strange that after mounting the guard yesterday, I jump in the car today and no blinkers.

Is that just typical Defender?

Cheers
Andrew

[GuyG]

I think thats just typical car - not only restricted to land rovers:o

[86mud]

Thanks to all for their input.

Replaced blinker switch and hazard light switch and cleaned/fixed up hazard switch wiring...blinkers now working :D

Cheers
Andrew

[nealo]

Blinker switches are only $40 ish from Landrover Classic Parts | HOME (http://www.landroverclassicparts.com.au/?p=home)

plus about $20 postage

Slapped one in the 130 and fixed all my woes, just had to cut the old plug off and solder the wires on to the new harness