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S_Squirel
8th July 2011, 07:03 AM
Guys,

I have been summoning the courage to fork out for a few performance tweaks on my 06' Td5.

List is currently; EGR removal, front 'silencer' removal (do i need to replace the dump pipe as well?), large intercooler & hoses, chipping.

I was just about to push the button on a ~$1000- kit out of Allards in the UK when this cooler came up on fleabay;

Discovery 2 TD5 ALLARD Turbo Performance Intercooler (eBay item 150627757684 end time 11-Jul-11 18:10:08 AEST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150627757684&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

It could represent a significant saving.

SOOOOO my question is;

Is the intercooler mounting system common between Disco's and Defenders? Everyones pictures make it look like they are the same unit yet the part numbers are always different. Does everyone just use a stock photo?
Are the units interchangeable between the two models?

Thanks Heaps
Shane

harro
8th July 2011, 07:46 AM
Guys,

I have been summoning the courage to fork out for a few performance tweaks on my 06' Td5.

List is currently; EGR removal, front 'silencer' removal (do i need to replace the dump pipe as well?), large intercooler & hoses, chipping.

I was just about to push the button on a ~$1000- kit out of Allards in the UK when this cooler came up on fleabay;

Discovery 2 TD5 ALLARD Turbo Performance Intercooler (eBay item 150627757684 end time 11-Jul-11 18:10:08 AEST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150627757684&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

It could represent a significant saving.

SOOOOO my question is;

Is the intercooler mounting system common between Disco's and Defenders? Everyones pictures make it look like they are the same unit yet the part numbers are always different. Does everyone just use a stock photo?
Are the units interchangeable between the two models?

Thanks Heaps
Shane

Hi Shane,
I have the ASE one fitted to my Defender and they are for the Disco as well so the Allard one should fit both.

Have a look here, you should find all you are after.
Allard Turbo Sport - Land Rover (http://www.allardturbosport.co.uk/index.php?page=Land-Rover)

Cheers,
Paul.

Drover
8th July 2011, 08:01 AM
Hey Squirel,

The header tanks and brackets look different to me, I just installed a Alli-Sport from the UK.

It is a tight sqeeze to fit the larger intercooler in, so it all needs to be spot on.

Search thread "PUMA performance up grade" for some pic's.

Talk to Andrew from Allisport, he will be happy to send one over, mine only took 5 days.

Cheers

Benny_IIA
8th July 2011, 10:40 AM
i think they are different(def to d2), I have an ase one on my defender.

Being a late modle td5 it would be worth upgrading the dump pipe to de cat pipe either from a early td5 or from td5 alive etc.

Or take it to your local exhuast shop and get them to remove it and bend up a centre box replacement.

If you are in brisbane I have an early dump you can have cheap.

S_Squirel
11th July 2011, 08:37 AM
Hey Squirel,

The header tanks and brackets look different to me, I just installed a Alli-Sport from the UK.

It is a tight sqeeze to fit the larger intercooler in, so it all needs to be spot on.

Search thread "PUMA performance up grade" for some pic's.

Talk to Andrew from Allisport, he will be happy to send one over, mine only took 5 days.

Cheers

Drover,

Did you switch the air-con condensor to be between the intercooler and radiator while you were at it?
I 1/2 pulled the front end apart over the weekend to try and measure things up. The aircon looks to block a fair bit of air to the intercooler. Would it be worth switching them to get a better charge?

S_Squirel
11th July 2011, 08:40 AM
i think they are different(def to d2), I have an ase one on my defender.

Being a late modle td5 it would be worth upgrading the dump pipe to de cat pipe either from a early td5 or from td5 alive etc.

Or take it to your local exhuast shop and get them to remove it and bend up a centre box replacement.

If you are in brisbane I have an early dump you can have cheap.

Benny,

Whats the difference in the dump pipes? Do the earlier ones not have the flex joint fitted?
Do I need to get rid of of the flex joint as well as the first muffler/cat?

Benny_IIA
11th July 2011, 10:24 AM
Benny,

Whats the difference in the dump pipes? Do the earlier ones not have the flex joint fitted?
Do I need to get rid of of the flex joint as well as the first muffler/cat?

early dump pipes have no cat fitted,

The flex is 100% needed on a diesel 4x4

Drover
11th July 2011, 12:24 PM
Drover,

Did you switch the air-con condensor to be between the intercooler and radiator while you were at it?
I 1/2 pulled the front end apart over the weekend to try and measure things up. The aircon looks to block a fair bit of air to the intercooler. Would it be worth switching them to get a better charge?



Hey Squirrel,

No, the A/C condenser is very thin and is not likely to restrict the air flow to much. Unlike the intercooler or radiator the condenser is not dealing with extreme temperature.

The new intercooler is well over twice the size of the standard and should ( and does ) prove very effective.

Cheers

Tombie
11th July 2011, 04:10 PM
Hi Shane,
I have the ASE one fitted to my Defender and they are for the Disco as well so the Allard one should fit both.

Have a look here, you should find all you are after.
Allard Turbo Sport - Land Rover (http://www.allardturbosport.co.uk/index.php?page=Land-Rover)

Cheers,
Paul.

Very different actually, they wont fit the alternate

harro
12th July 2011, 06:32 AM
Very different actually, they wont fit the alternate

Thanks Tombie!
I was only going on the ASE website which uses the same pic for both Def and Disco and refers to both as defender in the details.

LANDROVER - LANDROVER DISCOVERY INTERCOOLER - ASETurbo (http://www.aseturbo.com/LANDROVER/LANDROVER-DISCOVERY-INTERCOOLER/prod_323.html)

Glad I didn't get a second hand disco one:D.

S_Squirel
12th July 2011, 09:36 AM
Thanks guys,

I ended up ordering the kit through Allards. Whole lot landed ~$850.

Im just scrounging around for and EGT guage before it arrives.


Tombie,

Can we still send our ECU's direct down to you for the upgrade?
I assume I should do any exhaust mods before any ecu change? Is the cat in the flex joint or the first muffler?

Tah again
Shane

Tombie
12th July 2011, 10:23 AM
Thanks guys,

I ended up ordering the kit through Allards. Whole lot landed ~$850.

Im just scrounging around for and EGT guage before it arrives.


Tombie,

Can we still send our ECU's direct down to you for the upgrade? YES
I assume I should do any exhaust mods before any ecu change? Is the cat in the flex joint or the first muffler? Will make the most benefit, Cat past first bend under vehicle if fitted

Tah again
Shane

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