D4 2.7 service intervals

[WhiteD3]

Gents,

The book states 24,000 km or 12 months. Austral say 12,000 km or 6 months. Which is correct?

[Disco4SE]

Gents,

The book states 24,000 km or 12 months. Austral say 12,000 km or 6 months. Which is correct?
Regardless of what the book says, I get my oil & filter changed every 12,000 Km. IMHO I feel that the first oil & filter change is the most important. Dont wait until 24,000 Km for this one.
Alot can happen in 24,000 Klm's, so if something is on its way out etc, it can be picked up earlier.
Cheers, Craig

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I'm not sure I could wait 12, for the first one,,

[TerryO]

As some of you would know I had a new TDV6 long engine fitted not that long ago under used car warranty.

I booked it in for filter and oil at 5,000 k's. I'll have it done again at 10,000 k's, then settle down to every 10,000 k's after. Oil and filters are very cheap insurance as far as I'm concerned.

The previous owner only did oil changes at the required intervals, even though the engine needed to be changed because of a servicing fault when they pulled it apart after they had fitted my new engine for gratis they found a number of issues that would have lead me to believe it might not have lasted much longer anyway.

Remember the same LR book says you don't have to get your auto serviced and look at how much that is costing many D3 owners now.

cheers,
Terry

[~Rich~]

Again it was not that long ago that the recommended service interval for diesels was 5000kms and 10000kms for petrol engines, so what has changed?
I my self would change my oil every 10000kms as the oil soots up from the combustion process. No way would I leave it 24000kms if you want good engine life.

[WhiteD3]

Gents,

Thanks for the replies but the question was not when a service should be done for good practise, but rather what was the manufacturer's recommendations re service intervals.

I suppose I'm a bit suspicious of LR dealers and their motives for wanting it done every 6 months as opposed to 12 months as per the book.

FYI SWMBO's Golf is every 12 months or 20,000 km and it seems to be doing ok after 2.5 ears of ownership. It's a complex little beast too being a 1.4 litre turbo petrol with a 7 speed DSG box.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

you trust a service schedule that says "sealed for life"?:angel:

[Scouse]

From LR UK, the service intervals are 12mths/24000km.

Now, LR Aust recommend a 6mth/12000km "health check" to supplement the main services as our conditions are generally considered harsher than over in the UK. The health check is nothing more than a basic check over but a lot of owners also have an oil change done at the same time.

Trust your dealer (as always) :).

[WhiteD3]

From LR UK, the service intervals are 12mths/24000km.

Now, LR Aust recommend a 6mth/12000km "health check" to supplement the main services as our conditions are generally considered harsher than over in the UK. The health check is nothing more than a basic check over but a lot of owners also have an oil change done at the same time.

Trust your dealer (as always) :).

Thanks Scouse, now we're getting to it. Been quoted $400 for my first "health check" which seems a bit steep :o

[WhiteD3]

you trust a service schedule that says "sealed for life"?:angel:

Yes, works for me. I don't tow a 3 ton van all over the country, I do 99% of my miles as urban/hwy and might spend on average 2 days a month off road. Did 100,000 km in the D3 in 4.5 years with no trany issues.

[Scouse]

Thanks Scouse, now we're getting to it. Been quoted $400 for my first "health check" which seems a bit steep :oIt sounds a bit steep but maybe they've assumed you'll want an oil change.

Generally, LR allow the dealer 1hr for a basic health check (+ any top ups) so I would expect it to be around the $100 - $200 mark.

[Nomad9]

Hi WhiteD3,
Me, a bit of a twist on the theme, I change the filter ever 5000 klms and the oil between 10k and 12k, whatever is convenient. I run a full synthetic 5W-30. I take a sample of the oil after 5k and also after 10k and get the sample analysed to make sure I haven't got anything untoward happening. The analysis adds a bit of a science to the oil changes. The majority of the kilometres is done towing just so you know the vehicle isn't used just around town picking the kids up.
The oil is usually well within the cleanliness spec at 12k so I don't believe I'm leaving the changes to long. I don't think I would be game enough to push the changes out to 20 -24k myself. $120 of oil every 12k seems cheap insurance against the thousands you could have to spend.

[Graeme]

I give high priority to changing diff & transfer case oils frequently because there's no filter.

[Graeme]

Perhaps an interesting point about 2.7 oil change intervals is that the oil spec is Ford spec 913B which is not an extended drain interval oil as it only has ACEA A1/B1 specification. However Ford strongly advise that oil with spec 913C be used instead of all previous 913B recommendations with its better wear and sludge prevention spec of A5/B5 (backwards compatible with A1/B1), which is also an extended drain interval spec. Castrol's now obsolete SLX Professional C1 5W-30, recommended by LR for all 2.7 and non-DPF 3.0 engines, has A5/B5 spec, as did the DPF version SLX Professional Powerflow C1 5W-30. This suggests that there should be no difference in oil drain intervals between the 2.7 and 3.0 if using the A5/B5 spec oil. However if using an oil with only A1/B1 spec in a non-DPF 3.0 as documented by LR as acceptable then I suggest that the 3.0 extended drain interval should not apply.

[Disco4SE]

I give high priority to changing diff & transfer case oils frequently because there's no filter.

Hey Graeme, spoke with my dealers service manager today re: diff & transfer case oil changes. He suggested to have it done at 120,000klms.
Cheers, Craig

[WhiteD3]

I've been told by Austral that while the manual for the D4 says 12 months, the D3 was 6 months. Their view is its the same motor and so recommend the same service intervals for the D4 as per the D3.

They going to change the oil and filter in this first service.

[Graeme]

Hey Graeme, spoke with my dealers service manager today re: diff & transfer case oil changes. He suggested to have it done at 120,000klms.
Cheers, Craig
I had the front & rear diff oils changed at 9K and again at 45K and will have them changed again near end of warranty. I want the diffs to last and also want early warning if problems. 120K is too far past the end of warranty to be of any use.

[Disco4SE]

I had the front & rear diff oils changed at 9K and again at 45K and will have them changed again near end of warranty. I want the diffs to last and also want early warning if problems. 120K is too far past the end of warranty to be of any use.

Interesting..............I may get mine done earlier for the piece of mind.
Thanks, Craig

[Nomad9]

Hi Graeme,
Considering the price of oil and the varying conditions we subject the engines to I personally think that adding a bit of science to the process by getting an oil analysis done does pay for its self and also gives you a better peace of mind.
I run the Royal Purple 5W-30 oil in my engine, I've been through the spec sheet and in all honesty I can't find the references you mention, not sure why, am I looking in the wrong place?
I've also done some film strength tests testing various brands of oil both mineral semi synthetic and full synthetic, the oil I choose to use came out the best, seems logical that is why I use it. Also when I've had a look inside the engine when I take covers and caps off using the philosophy I use you could eat your dinner of the inside of the engine which I find encouraging.
I always change the filter at 5k and the oil at 10k, I found on the one occasion I let the filter and the oil go to 10k the cleanliness numbers were a bit worse than I would have liked, still good but not "comfortable right". Viscocity and all the other important elements were spot on.

[Graeme]

I run the Royal Purple 5W-30 oil in my engine, I've been through the spec sheet and in all honesty I can't find the references you mention, not sure why, am I looking in the wrong place?
As its an American oil the manufacturers may not have bothered with specifying what European ACEA ratings it meets. However because of a few reported 3.0 bearing failures claimed by LR to be from using the wrong oil, I'll only use an oil that meets LR's stated ACEA ratings, viscosity and Ford specs. The availability of LR's recommended oil at a reasonable price means that's what I'll use. I'd like to think that I would use oil test results to establish change intervals but with my current mostly country usage pattern I'll change at around 20K.

[Nomad9]

Hi Graeme,
Thanks for the info, I suspect that oil being oil will be a discussion point for ever, there will never be one answer, Richard K recently spun a bearing in his D3, no warning and I know Richard is pretty fastidious in his maintenance regime.
I not out to get anybody to change just offering an opinion, what works for me. Interesting about the ACEA specs I'll do some more follow-up on that one, cheers.

[WhiteD3]

Email from LRA today...........

Dear Mr Orchard,
RE: 2011 Discovery 4 / Vehicle Identification Number: SALLxxxxxxxx
Our Ref: 8269540
Thank you for your email in relation to service intervals.
Firstly, apologies for the delayed response
Land Rover would like to confirm that the service book is correct as the service intervals are 24,000kms or 12 months. However Land Rover do recommend a health check at 12,000kms or 6 months.

I hope this serves to answer your query however, if you wish to discuss the matter further then please don’t hesitate to contact me on the number below, Monday to Friday, 08:00 till 18:00 (AEST).
Kind Regards,

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Land Rover Australia
Tel: 1800 625 642
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