Superwinch PTO hyraulic winch

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Does anyone have any experience of the UK brand "Superwinch" with LT230 hydraulic drive?

Today I have been offered the winch that was originally fitted to my 6X6 Defender, it was removed as it formed part of the equipment for the cherrypicker kit. It now seems that the estate is happy to liquidate items individually.

Is the Superwinch brand worth having? How much would one be worth now that it's 20 years old, the cable appears in good condition with little wear.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/10/62.jpg

[Xtreme]

Not an answer to your questions, Diana, but here's (Red Winches (http://www.red-winches.com/index.html)) the updated version of a very robust UK made hydraulic winch.

BTW these are being itorsmported by Ben Robinson of Modern Motors, Dungog (Modern Motors Dungog: Mahindra Dealership and Land Rover Specialists (http://www.modernmotors.com.au/)) who were one of the generous sponsors at last weekend's NSW Gathering of the AULRO 10th Anniversary celebrations.

[Scouse]

No experience but the NZers appear to love them. Watch an episode of 4WDTV & you'll see any NZ segment shows the majority of the comp field running Superwinches.

[justinc]

Awesome bit of kit there, about $3300 new :eek:

good find:)

JC

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thanks guy's

Looking with my inexperienced eye, the winch appears to be a PTO design, but instead of a PTO shaft a hydraulic motor is mounted on the back side of the front cross member and a short shaft drives to the winch gearbox.

This may be because the Defender needed the PTO to drive the hydraulics for the cherry picker, so instead of adding another PTO, they added a hydraulic motor to the winch.

Now I need to decide if I want to pay the price they're asking. :confused:

Diana

[bobslandies]

Lookee here:

HP Series
Superwinch, LLC - HP Winch * HP Hydraulic Winch (http://www.superwinch.com/products/category/HP+Series/4377.0.1.1.16156.84521.0.0.0)

HW Series
Superwinch, LLC - HW Winch * HW Hydraulic Winch (http://www.superwinch.com/products/category/4377.0.1.1.16156.84522.0.0.0)

Bob

[Scouse]

Now I need to decide if I want to pay the price they're asking. :confused:

Oh, you haven't bought it yet :eek:.

In that case, they're crap. Give me their contact details & I'll pick it up for scrap metal prices.





Then I can finally use my PTO pump.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thanks Bob

Looking at the site it appears to be a worm drive unit, so I'd imagine would winch all day at a constant speed and would be a capacity from 10,000 to 14,000 lbs. Wish I took a closer look at the capacity on the ID plate.

[abaddonxi]

Here's one closer to home -
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/137971-anyone-know-owner-defender.html

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Oh, you haven't bought it yet :eek:.

In that case, they're crap. Give me their contact details & I'll pick it up for scrap metal prices.

Then I can finally use my PTO pump.Scouse

You're probably correct about them being crap, I hear there is a recall notice on the mounting for this one? At least that what I've been informed. ;)

Diana

[Jojo]

Does anyone have any experience of the UK brand "Superwinch" with LT230 hydraulic drive?


They are an US brand, actually. I have no experience whatsoever with any of their products, but from what I have seen and heard their products are as reliable as any of their major competitors. Some models were even factory fitted items on Land Rover vehicles (available as an option).
Your winch looks a good deal. I'd go for it.
Cheers

[uninformed]

I have seen plenty of the planetry drive units here fitted to tilt trays.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

They are an US brand, actually. I have no experience whatsoever with any of their products, but from what I have seen and heard their products are as reliable as any of their major competitors. Some models were even factory fitted items on Land Rover vehicles (available as an option).
Your winch looks a good deal. I'd go for it.
CheersThis was a Land Rover Special Vehicles build for "Southern Electricity" in UK and the Superwinch was factory fitted. According to the Land Rover's computer records there is still an outstanding recall on something to do with the winch. (Will have to enquire with my contact again.)

[Tank]

Thanks Bob

Looking at the site it appears to be a worm drive unit, so I'd imagine would winch all day at a constant speed and would be a capacity from 10,000 to 14,000 lbs. Wish I took a closer look at the capacity on the ID plate.
Diana, the winch's "Capacity" is governed by the SWL/WLL of the cable fitted to the winch, Regards Frank.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Diana, the winch's "Capacity" is governed by the SWL/WLL of the cable fitted to the winch, Regards Frank.Thanks Frank

When I looked at the site listed by Bobslandies they showed three winches with the same general design as the one I've been offered, 10,000; 12,000 and 14,000lbs. Are you saying that the only difference is the cable wound onto the drum?

Diana :confused:

PS, everyone says it's a good winch and Justin C says it's a $3.5K kit new, but I've still got no idea what the secondhand price is. (I bought a SIII ex army Bamford for a few hundred and a LT95 Thomas for $650 and this is a lot more)

[uninformed]

Diana, the winch's "Capacity" is governed by the SWL/WLL of the cable fitted to the winch, Regards Frank.

Apart from the ratings on things like the gearbox, drum and mountings of coarse.....

[justinc]

Many, Many apologies Diana, I have found the ad about the PTO Hydraulic winches to suit LT230 etc, it was a Milemarker 12,000lb, not a Superwinch. They retail in UK for 2155 incl VAT, so about $3200aud it is on Page 149 of Sept 2011 LRM, First Four advert.

Sorry I was relying on my dodgy old memory.

I would just use your judgement and make them an honest appraisal as to its used value, as you can imagine they are virtually impossible to test in dissassembled conditioned, and hydraulic pumps are very $$$ to overhaul.

JC

[Tank]

Diana, the ratings of 10Klbs., 12Klbs., 14Klbs. are possibly rated by the manufacturer, but unless the ratings have SWL or WLL stamped on them then they could mean anything from the Guaranteed Breaking Strain (GBS) of the recommended wire rope cable or the actual load at which the winch will stop working.
It would pay to find out from the manufacturer what these numbers mean.
In any case it would be safer to go by the size and construction of the cable supplied, you could ring a cable supplier and ask for instance what is the SWL/WLL or the GBS of say 12mm 7 strand IWRC winch cable, if they give you a figure of say 10000lbs GBS then that rope would have a SWL of 2000lbs (i.e. SWL = GBS divided by 5 (Safety Factor) SF.
I would imagine the actual pulling power of the winch would be more than adequate, so if you go by the size of the rope to work out your SWL you should have no problems, as long as you work to the SWL and NOT the GBS like most in the 4WD game do, Regards Frank.