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James Neilsen
8th January 2012, 11:00 AM
Hi

I have a 1994 110 defender and need to get a better beach tyre package

Can anyone let me know the options and the actual stud pattern?

I can get a hold of a set of 16*8 of a new defender that is being wrecked, will they fit my older version

Also I am on the gold coast if anyone has a nice wide set for the beach for sale

Hope someone can help



James

weeds
8th January 2012, 11:04 AM
the current model wheels will fit, you might need matching nuts

how wide do you want to go?? i have not had any problems with 235/85/16's which are standard either on the beach or in the desert.......

i run disco rims with 235/85/16 BFG/MT's fitted

Sleepy
8th January 2012, 11:09 AM
G'day James,
Welcome to the forum. Feel free to post up some pics of your Def. and post in the Introductions section a quick hello.

From memory the standard rims are still only 7inches (alloy) and 6.5 for steel on the newer defenders. (after 1999 - Td5 and 2006 - Puma models). They will fit your vehicle.

If you have original steel rims they will be 6 inch.

Lots of options - do a search here for "tyres" and you should find approx 10,478 threads.;):D

In short I would stick with 16 inch. Steel (and alloy) wheels off Discovery 1 (1990 to 98) will also fit as will Range Rover (pre 1994).

Paul

cewilson
8th January 2012, 12:20 PM
I'll agree with above. The standard steel rims with 235/85R16s will be fine. I also reckon a good set of ATs or even MTs will be fine as well. It is ALL in the tyre pressures.....

Chucaro
8th January 2012, 12:48 PM
I have 235-85-16 in 1988 RR rims fitted with Maxxis Backshot tyres and is very good set-up for all terrains.

Benz
8th January 2012, 12:50 PM
+1 on the tyre pressure

give 12psi a crack.
that's what i use on my 130 on soft sand and dunes but a mate uses the same on his 110. both run 235/85's

it's all trial and error and also depends on what tyres your running on the car and how you drive.

but i guess you must be up for new tyres anyway?
you could get those rims from the wreck and put 255/85's on her without many problems.
you will loose some power however.

and x2 on the pics

rijidij
8th January 2012, 09:37 PM
+1 on the tyre pressure

give 12psi a crack. ........
that's what i use on my 130 on soft sand and dunes but a mate uses the same on his 110. both run 235/85's..............
put 255/85's on her without many problems, you will loose some power however..........


......... It is ALL in the tyre pressures.....

I agree, tyre pressure is way more important on sand than tyre width. I've done a lot of sand driving on various tyres and treads, 750x16, 235/85/16, 255/85/16, A/T's, M/T's and there's next to no performance difference between them, as long as you drop the pressure for the conditions.

Cheers, Murray

slug_burner
8th January 2012, 10:51 PM
Defender stud pattern is unchanged going back to the start of landrover. At some stage they changed the thread to metric but that is about it. It is not until the Disco 2 and RR P38 that they changed on landrover vehicles other than the Defender to a smaller diameter on the pattern. DOn't know about the Freelander.

You need to be aware that steel wheels and alloy wheels use different nuts.

Also the wheels on your Defender if original will be for use with tubed tyres and are 5.5" wide.

When you start going to bigger tyres and wider wheels you need to ensure that the tyres will not rub on bodywork or suspension/steering components. I am sure that if you do a search or wait a little bit someone will come along and tell you the max size tyre that can fit under a Defender without a lift or guard modifications.

I run 7.50 x 16 and did the Simpson and other outback tracks that had plenty of sand and they managed just fine. Air pressures is the secret as others have pointed out. And for sand the less aggressive a pattern the better so ATs should be fine. The more aggressive tyres will break the crust on the sand then it will be easier to sink into it.

numpty
9th January 2012, 10:46 AM
Defender stud pattern is unchanged going back to the start of landrover. At some stage they changed the thread to metric but that is about it. It is not until the Disco 2 and RR P38 that they changed on landrover vehicles other than the Defender to a smaller diameter on the pattern. DOn't know about the Freelander.

You need to be aware that steel wheels and alloy wheels use different nuts.

Also the wheels on your Defender if original will be for use with tubed tyres and are 5.5" wide.

I run 7.50 x 16 and did the Simpson and other outback tracks that had plenty of sand and they managed just fine. Air pressures is the secret as others have pointed out. And for sand the less aggressive a pattern the better so ATs should be fine. The more aggressive tyres will break the crust on the sand then it will be easier to sink into it.

Wheel nuts for the alloy wheels can be used with the steels but not vice versa.

I too have used 750/16's on Simpson and Fraser with no issue and current 235/16's on Madigan Crossing also with no issue (apart from the odd puncture) agree with comments above, tyre pressure is the key.

Loubrey
9th January 2012, 01:02 PM
As all replied, the stud patern (PCD) has been 5 x 6.5" for the last 62 odd years and the alloys are definitely 7" wide.

If you do get alloys off the wrecked one, make sure the nuts, lock nuts and their key comes with otherwise you'll have to get a complete set from the stealers for the price of a small county's defence budget...

Just something to keep in mind is that if you come accross steel wheels in a 5 stud patern, make sure they're not L/Cruiser because they use a 5.5" PCD.

camel_landy
9th January 2012, 06:39 PM
I wouldn't worry about going mega wide, 235/85R16 will be just fine.

I run 750/16 XZL (narrow, aggressive, mud pattern) and they have been fine in sand... Tyre pressure is the key. ;)

I also run mine on steel rims but I use 130 & wolf rims. Both 130 & Wolf rims are 6.5" and much stronger than the regular Defender rims (Wolf rims being stronger than the 130 rims).

M

JamesH
9th January 2012, 10:31 PM
Ive got the original steel rims on my 1996 110 wagon. They are definitely 5 1/2" wide. I looked into getting 235/85s instead of the 7.5R16s but the tyre guy said no, 235s (or the vast majority at least) require 6" rims and he was prevented by law from fitting them.

I'm not saying they won't fit but they aren't legal. something to bear in mind vis a vis insurance claims

cheers

cewilson
9th January 2012, 10:54 PM
First I've heard of it. I've run Hankook MTs since 04, and I'm about to swap to a BFG KM2 - all of them in a 235/85 R16. That's in a 93 200tdi Defender.


Cheers
Chris

jakeslouw
10th January 2012, 03:06 AM
I have General 235/85-16s on my original steel rims, 1989 110 V8 CSW.