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juddy
15th January 2012, 07:11 AM
I have come to a stop with this thing.

2 1/4 diesel not starting.

I have replaced solinode, starter motor, battery, cleaned injectors, put fuel in it, and still nothing.

Any ideas.

VK3UTE
15th January 2012, 08:17 AM
Maybe try a small squirt of Aerostart, that might prove if mechanically all is OK and point the finger at fuel. The fuel system can be a pain in the arse to bleed sometimes:mad: You could also check the obvious and make sure the pump fuel cut off is in the run position, sometimes the linkages wear badly stopping full travel:angel:

Cheers Simon

juddy
15th January 2012, 08:23 AM
Maybe try a small squirt of Aerostart, that might prove if mechanically all is OK and point the finger at fuel. The fuel system can be a pain in the arse to bleed sometimes:mad: You could also check the obvious and make sure the pump fuel cut off is in the run position, sometimes the linkages wear badly stopping full travel:angel:

Cheers Simon

Tryed the aerostart no luck. Could be the fuel bleed. Fuel cut off, ? Where what position

BigJon
15th January 2012, 08:41 AM
When was it last running? What is the history?

VK3UTE
15th January 2012, 08:49 AM
Did it fire at all with the Aerostart?

Lotz-A-Landies
15th January 2012, 08:51 AM
Stop telling Angus he's not wanted.

Wasn't he running the day Dave came over on the 11th December?

Does it need the glow plugs first? We had a Inter tractor that always needed pre heating even in summer.

juddy
15th January 2012, 11:37 AM
Stop telling Angus he's not wanted.

Wasn't he running the day Dave came over on the 11th December?

Does it need the glow plugs first? We had a Inter tractor that always needed pre heating even in summer.

Dave got it going, before Xmas, we have started it every week since then, with no issues, until last week, when it would not play. Have used Aerostart, but still no luck, Dave said it should start even if the Plugs are not working ( looks as if i need a special tool to remover them )????????

jerryd
16th January 2012, 08:05 AM
I bet your neighbor has put sugar in the fuel tank, payback for filling his lounge up with diesel smoke :angel:

He looked a bit grumpy when we started it on my visit ;)

Ratel10mm
16th January 2012, 08:31 AM
I have a SIII 2.25D that had a similar problem. I always glow it before trying to start from cold, just assumed it was necessary.
In my case, it stopped running 800m from home & would not start again.
Found it had a stuffed no. 3 glow plug for the second time. Replaced, still no start. NO SPECIAL TOOLS REQUIRED TO REMOVE GLOW PLUGS, although you may need 5-holes or a mole grip to get the knurled retaining nut moving. My car certainly wouldn't start with only 3 plugs working, as I discovered when the first plug went.
Still no joy.
Pulled each injector hose & proved fuel to each injector. Still no start!
Pulled feed to distributor pump & checked fuel flow to it. Appeared all good.

Gave up!!

3 weeks later, had a few minutes to tinker. Key in, 20sec's glow, bit of hand throttle (the pump timing is out, & it's a 'special tool' type one so I haven't done it) and VROOM!!!

I still have no idea what the problem was. Probably next time it'll refuse again!

Please excuse the 'shouting' above, I cannot figure out how to do italics on an iPhone keyboard.

Blknight.aus
16th January 2012, 08:31 AM
if its not kicking on areo then its low cranking speed.

you need a deep reach socket to get the glow plugs out...

Might be able to free up wednesday to come have a look.

dangermousehouse
16th January 2012, 08:58 AM
Sounds a bit similar to mine, although mine started on 'start ya b'stard' and then cut out after a few seconds.

This made me think fuel, so I bled the fuel system and all good.

(Mine sits for 4 to 5 weeks whilst I'm away, so I'm guessing there's a small fuel leak somewhere).

Blknight - How many rpms is a good cranking speed?

juddy
16th January 2012, 12:11 PM
if its not kicking on areo then its low cranking speed.

you need a deep reach socket to get the glow plugs out...

Might be able to free up wednesday to come have a look.

You might need to bring a deep reach socket, take it i need to get some new plugs?

Blknight.aus
16th January 2012, 12:21 PM
your electrics are a crap fight, lets not blame the plugs till we know they're being fed right.

ezyrama
17th January 2012, 02:36 PM
I used a 3/4"? ratchet ring spanner to get mine and Ratel10mm's glow plugs out and it worked a treat. Juddy if u r stuck give me a call if you still want to have a look, I.m ok for Saturday this weekend if you want. Have you checked your valve clearances to make sure you have enough compression???
Gimme a call 0448799102.
Cheers Ian

Lotz-A-Landies
17th January 2012, 05:26 PM
You'se blokes up there have such a great support network!

Wish I had one down here too! :(