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Ozzy119
20th January 2012, 10:24 AM
Hi all,

First post since getting one. (D4 2.7) I love the vehicle.

However, after our first shake down camping trip I realise it's back to the starting blocks in terms of bush safety and insurance.

At a minimum the big outlays are looking like, front bar (luckily the roo bounced off the camper trailer and not vehicle) a snorkel and good AT tyres.

So, with regards to the bar, I'm wondering if any body cutting is required to fit it?

Thanks in advance.

Tombie
20th January 2012, 10:34 AM
Only the front lower portion of the flared wheel arch (the plastic bit)

Cut from level with the light down...


There is a brand which leaves it intact, but not as strong..

~Rich~
20th January 2012, 10:37 AM
Here is an ARB one that needs cutting!! :p

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Not sure about the legalities on repairing a bullbar.

disco4now
20th January 2012, 10:39 AM
Link to fitting instructions on ARB site, for D3 but about the same.


http://www.arb.com.au/media/products/3432200-16-25-362/ARB_3432200_fitting.pdf

Robocop
20th January 2012, 02:23 PM
That ARB bar doesn't look too bad at all.

ADMIRAL
21st January 2012, 12:13 AM
Only the front lower portion of the flared wheel arch (the plastic bit)

Cut from level with the light down...


There is a brand which leaves it intact, but not as strong..

ECB... They may have something to say about not being as strong.

scarry
21st January 2012, 09:37 AM
With the ARB one,bar has to be taken off to change a headlight bulb!

discojools
21st January 2012, 12:34 PM
Not totally true.. I managed to change passenger side bulb on my D3, bit fiddly but not too bad.. also discovered that ARB fitters had knocked off the neck of the washer filler when fitting the bar. Had wondered why the jets kept getting blocked, dust was getting into the bottle.
Don't know about the other side though!
Am looking at a bar for my D4... are there any that you can change bulbs by taking the lamp unit out the front?

gghaggis
21st January 2012, 01:20 PM
ECB... They may have something to say about not being as strong.

I have a black ECB D4 winch-compliant bar (second-hand) for sale on my website if you want an alloy bar.

Cheers,

Gordon

Disco4SE
21st January 2012, 01:31 PM
Not totally true.. I managed to change passenger side bulb on my D3, bit fiddly but not too bad.. also discovered that ARB fitters had knocked off the neck of the washer filler when fitting the bar. Had wondered why the jets kept getting blocked, dust was getting into the bottle.
Don't know about the other side though!
Am looking at a bar for my D4... are there any that you can change bulbs by taking the lamp unit out the front?

Go the Opposite Lock bar Jools.
It has LED lights in the bar :)

Cheers, Craig
B

discowhite
21st January 2012, 01:37 PM
With the ARB one,bar has to be taken off to change a headlight bulb!

Don't have that problem with my arb bar.

Cheers Phil

Graeme
21st January 2012, 03:37 PM
Am looking at a bar for my D4... are there any that you can change bulbs by taking the lamp unit out the front?OK with my ECB, which also has LED lights. The ECB still looks massive to me even though its been fitted for over a year.

Tombie
21st January 2012, 04:04 PM
My ARB will be going on this week (sitting in the workshop at home)...

No issues changing headlight bulb on the D3 with ARB bar...
LED in opposition bars are in the indicators only and dont prevent headlight changes :cool:


Now - Something to consider...

The D4 has a beautiful "straight" profile from headlight / grill / headlight..

The ECB bar is curved hoop.. The ARB (and OL Knock Off) are Straight uprights...

The ECB ruins the lines of the vehicle front on... The ARB / OL bar uprights run in the join between Grill and Lights keeping the 'Squared' profile...

So it looks neater ;)

See how the lines are all messed up...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/d3-d4-rrs/26187d1276737677-d4-bull-bar-ecb-bull-bar-d4-004.jpg


And here the uprights present themselves inline, keeping the front view 'clean'

http://www.arb.com.au/media/products/3432200_000.jpg

D3mike
21st January 2012, 05:55 PM
Just had ARB install deluxe bullbar (& winch & LR tank & snorkel & kaymar kit) a few days ago. Very very happy.

ARB bar has a better approach angle now, and also looks like it betters the ECB bar for approach as well. (aside from aesthetics) Looks like ECb also ahve to remove cover to access recovery point as well.

. Very happy camper

scarry
21st January 2012, 06:57 PM
Don't have that problem with my arb bar.

Cheers Phil

been a thread about it onhere,also a member on here had an issue changing a bulb with an ARB bar fitted.

I was also told this was the case by the local ARB shop not far from here last week,as i have been looking at D4 bars for the new arrival.

Even though this may be the case,i agree the ARB looks the go.

LGM
21st January 2012, 10:34 PM
ARB Bar is my choice and the choice of discerning roos!

LGM:)

roamer
22nd January 2012, 08:36 AM
:D[QUOTE} Now - Something to consider...[/U]

The D4 has a beautiful "straight" profile from headlight / grill / headlight..

The ECB bar is curved hoop.. The ARB (and OL Knock Off) are Straight uprights...

The ECB ruins the lines of the vehicle front on... The ARB / OL bar uprights run in the join between Grill and Lights keeping the 'Squared' profile...

So it looks neater {QUOTE}



Hmmm...consider this,







those bars are just "straight" up butt ugly :D

Tombie
22nd January 2012, 09:03 AM
Hmmm...consider this,







those bars are just "straight" up butt ugly :D

So is a Kangaroo through the grill... :angel:




Functional can't always be the most pretty....




The best front on a D4 is the factory one... :cool: But a Roo will mess up your day...




At the end of the Day, ARB has the runs on the board for holding up to real world animal strikes...

I dont want to "get home" - I want No damage to my vehicle whatsoever...

Having seen other brands flex / fold / bow back into the vehicle causing damage I must say its an eye opener..


City persons and casual offroaders have more options I guess - But people doing serious remote, highway or bush driving just want to survive intact :D

Tombie
22nd January 2012, 09:08 AM
BUT..........

It is your right to make your own decision on what suits you and your needs, wants and tastes...

Only you need to like what you do / fit to your vehicle.

roamer
22nd January 2012, 09:33 AM
All true but
thought you where on about design and lines of bars

Your choice to change subject. (if it makes your case look better) ;)

I considered it (what ya asked to consider)

BUTT UGLY all of them.

We are touchy aren't we :o

Anyway, I'm over it, no more replies

Have to go and do some serious offroad country highway touring stuff, to justify my arb bar

Graeme
22nd January 2012, 10:26 AM
Looks like ECb also ahve to remove cover to access recovery point
Not so - its below the level of the cover albeit a fair way back.

rmp
25th January 2012, 07:44 AM
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