D4 ARB / OL Bullbar and headlight removal

[trif]

Hello all.

For those with the ARB or OL bars fitted can you shed some light on the ability (or lack of ability) to remove the front grille to change the headlight globes should the need arise.

Looking at the photos in the various posts the bar uprights sit very close to the grille.

Regards Trif.

[discotwinturbo]

Hello all.

For those with the ARB or OL bars fitted can you shed some light on the ability (or lack of ability) to remove the front grille to change the headlight globes should the need arise.

Looking at the photos in the various posts the bar uprights sit very close to the grille.

Regards Trif.

Removing the grill is ok on my OL bar. Just a little fiddly but easy enough.
Also I had to remove headlight to fit the LR light protectors.....again fiddly but easy enough.
Brett

[AGRO]

Hi

I have an ARB BAR and have no problems removing the grill.

[trif]

Hi Discotwinturbo and Agro.

Thanks for the replies. Question answered. Now all l have to do is decide between the two ..............

Regards Trif.

[sniegy]

With all the bars it is no problem removing the grille.
Depending obviously if you dont have driving light wiring coming through the grille:o
The issue is removing the head light fully to gain access to the rear of the head light to replace certain globes, as some you need to remove a part of the light to replace the globe.
I know on the D3 you "cannot" remove the head light fully. It is a real pain in the preverbial to replace certain globes.
The owners of a D4 with bar may be able to advise.
I havent changed a globe in a D4 yet:p

[mikel]

Removing the grill is ok on my OL bar. Just a little fiddly but easy enough.
Also I had to remove headlight to fit the LR light protectors.....again fiddly but easy enough.
Brett

Hi Brett

Are the LR light protectors you mention for the D4 or D3, as I was told LR no longer make them for the D4 head lights. I scarred myself silly when I asked them the replacement cost of a Xenon light assembly and was told $1500 per unit !!!

Cheers
Mike L

[sniegy]

Hi Brett

Are the LR light protectors you mention for the D4 or D3, as I was told LR no longer make them for the D4 head lights. I scarred myself silly when I asked them the replacement cost of a Xenon light assembly and was told $1500 per unit !!!

Cheers
Mike L

The globe itself is approx. $600.00:eek:

[discotwinturbo]

Hi Brett

Are the LR light protectors you mention for the D4 or D3, as I was told LR no longer make them for the D4 head lights. I scarred myself silly when I asked them the replacement cost of a Xenon light assembly and was told $1500 per unit !!!

Cheers
Mike L

They are....factory front and tail light protectors. Black abs plastic. They want stop rocks unless the rock is well placed.

[IpanemaD4SE]

Howdy Trif, If you go with the ARB bar just make sure they have fitted one before successfully. ARB head office in Adelaide took 2 days to fit mine, front parking sensors wouldnt work after installation. They were fixed by changing out the rubber grommets around each sensor and by setting the sensors forward slightly from the bar, however the first drive in the rain the sensors failed. The sensors had to be replaced by Solitaire landrover as they had been damaged by ARB in the installation. Also the gap between the wings of the bar and the bottom of the headlights needed to be addressed, meant to be 10mm according to fitting instructions but was more like 1 inch, (way too much).

[trif]

Howdy Trif, If you go with the ARB bar just make sure they have fitted one before successfully. ARB head office in Adelaide took 2 days to fit mine, front parking sensors wouldnt work after installation. They were fixed by changing out the rubber grommets around each sensor and by setting the sensors forward slightly from the bar, however the first drive in the rain the sensors failed. The sensors had to be replaced by Solitaire landrover as they had been damaged by ARB in the installation. Also the gap between the wings of the bar and the bottom of the headlights needed to be addressed, meant to be 10mm according to fitting instructions but was more like 1 inch, (way too much).

Hello IpanemaD4SE. Obviously the mines must be quiet at the moment :D.

Since my earlier post l've received a resounding 'NO' from ARB regarding fitment to a D4 HSE. Yes, the ARB bar can be made to fit BUT it must be modified. Places like Manell Motors in Sydney can do this but l don't want to risk insurance coverage should the need arise and the insurance company gets picky.

The OL bar is visually very similar to the ARB version but IMO superior in overall finish (it has rubber inserts around the fog lights and under the headlights to fill the void). Also it has the holes for the parking sensors pre-drilled so is ADR compliant (and insurance friendly), and the local OL dealership lads are landrover enthusiasts.

Regards Trif.

[LGM]

Guy's,

A little off subject but I posted the comment below last year when I had my ARB bar fitted.

There is no modification required. If it fits an SE it will fit an HSE SDV6!

I have not had a go at getting the headlights out as yet but looks to me as if there is enough room to manouver the fitting.

Comment from Nov last:

"After much ado (about nothing it seems) I now have a colour matched ARB bull bar fitted to my D4 HSE. ARB have stated on their web site that the bar does not fit D4 HSE or V8 models. Given that there was little difference between the SE an HSE at the front end and ARB state the bull bar will fit the SE model I thought it worthwhile to persist. I researched through the Australian Land Rover Owners web site and with the assistance of a number of persons was able to find an ARB franchise, Mannell Motors in Sydney, who had fitted the bar to a D4 HSE and noted that there were no issues.

The staff of Mannell Motors in Sydney talked to the guys at ARB in Welshpool and were able to convince them to do the job.

The only 'engineering' that was actually required was drilling and fitting the front park sensors. Other than that it was a 'bolt off and bolt on' job.

I am happy and much more relaxed when travelling around this area, my insurer is happy and the roos in my area are less so!

[eckolsim]

Hi Guys, Girls and non binary etc etc.

Dusting off this old thread to see if anyone has managed to remove the headlights of a later D4 (2016) fitted with an ARB deluxe bar?

My purpose is first to understand how to re-lamp when I don’t really need it and general access as I learn about this car. (New to me)

Can remove grill etc but these lights are huge.

[Eric SDV6SE]

Hi Guys, Girls and non binary etc etc.

Dusting off this old thread to see if anyone has managed to remove the headlights of a later D4 (2016) fitted with an ARB deluxe bar?

My purpose is first to understand how to re-lamp when I don’t really need it and general access as I learn about this car. (New to me)

Can remove grill etc but these lights are huge.

I have an ARB 'barcon my D4, unbolt at the mounts but dont remove bar tilts forward and slightly down just enough to allow the unclipped headlight assemblies forward and out. You need just enough to clear the back of the light through the body opening. Reinstall is the reverse, may need someone to help lift the bar into correct alignment. I did mine with my trolley jack underneath. Easy as.

[BMKal]

I have an ARB 'barcon my D4, unbolt at the mounts but dont remove bar tilts forward and slightly down just enough to allow the unclipped headlight assemblies forward and out. You need just enough to clear the back of the light through the body opening. Reinstall is the reverse, may need someone to help lift the bar into correct alignment. I did mine with my trolley jack underneath. Easy as.

Thanks for that. I've often wondered. I can get my headlights out onto the main channel of the ARB bar on mine, but cannot completely remove them from the vehicle. So far, I have had no need to completely remove the lights, but it's nice to know that I can if needed without removing the bar. And I have a decent trolley jack in the shed - or a large block and tackle permanently hanging from a roof beam if needed. [biggrin]

[kelvo]

Hi Guys, Girls and non binary etc etc.

Dusting off this old thread to see if anyone has managed to remove the headlights of a later D4 (2016) fitted with an ARB deluxe bar?
A 2016 should be fitted with a 'Summit' bar, not a deluxe.

[loanrangie]

I have an ARB 'barcon my D4, unbolt at the mounts but dont remove bar tilts forward and slightly down just enough to allow the unclipped headlight assemblies forward and out. You need just enough to clear the back of the light through the body opening. Reinstall is the reverse, may need someone to help lift the bar into correct alignment. I did mine with my trolley jack underneath. Easy as.

Is that tilting on the 2 lower bolts on the lower front section of the bar ?

[Eric SDV6SE]

Is that tilting on the 2 lower bolts on the lower front section of the bar ?

Yes

[eckolsim]

A 2016 should be fitted with a 'Summit' bar, not a deluxe.

Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t fit the bar (came with car) so am not up to speed on model names.