Split Rims - source of?

[Bill]

Help Please.....

I am not seeking to start or reignite any religious debate about wheels and tyres, but does anyone know of a source of 16" split rims for a current Defender.

Purchase? Import? Manufacture? Modify?

Many thanks

[Blknight.aus]

kubota front rims are the right pattern for a deefer. If you get the right model.

[goingbush]

Split rim part number: BYG5324

http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album230/abm.sized.jpg


Otherwise get yourself 5 Toyota split rims & take to Wheel works & they will happily make some LR pattern centres

Also I saw some on a ex army Defender in a Sydney car yard (Alexandra or Rockdale I think) , might be worth a try checking out carsales etc to see if you can spot the one & see if the Dealer will swap for some regular rims


Never seen a Kubota split rim ?? I just sold my 2 4x4 Kubotas b1700 & L2500 one had 16 rear wheels, one had 16" front wheels both solids & neither were LR stud pattern !!

[wrinklearthur]

The old source of split rims was 1950's Morris commercials.
They had wheels that went onto the Land Rover stud pattern and if I remember correctly, the center hole had to be eased a little as it was too tight to go straight onto the hub.
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[Blknight.aus]

The first of my split rims that I got my hands on came off of a kubota, not a small one with 16 rears, an older one, bout the size of an old school fergy with 16s on the front.

[goingbush]

The old source of split rims was 1950's Morris commercials.
They had wheels that went onto the Land Rover stud pattern and if I remember correctly, the center hole had to be eased a little as it was too tight to go straight onto the hub.
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Thats right, I remember when I was in the CCJC (Cross Country Jeep Club) in the 1980's a bloke had 16" Morris Commercial split rims on his series one !!

hard pressed to find any nowadays I suspect, ebay.co.uk shows no results.

[justinc]

i have a set of 6 from a perentie, need some blasting and coating but will get round to it soon. as they are hard to find nowadays, i would graft some disco centres onto cruiser rims i reckon, then you could pick your offset too:)

Eastern wheel works willl do that job easily.

jc

[goingbush]

i have a set of 6 from a perentie, need some blasting and coating but will get round to it soon. as they are hard to find nowadays, i would graft some disco centres onto cruiser rims i reckon, then you could pick your offset too:)

Eastern wheel works willl do that job easily.

jc


Only problem is the outside diameter of a defer or disco centre is more than an inch less than the inside diameter of tojo rim.

The centre will need to be fabbed

[justinc]

Only problem is the outside diameter of a defer or disco centre is more than an inch less than the inside diameter of tojo rim.

The centre will need to be fabbed

ah, yes that would explain why i haven't yet seen anyone do that. i thought it was due to cost etc, but a fabbed centre would probably be stronger, anyhow.

jc

[Blknight.aus]

thats not a problem, landy steelies arent located by the center, the taper on the wheel nuts does all the work, the center is just to help you get located enough to get the rim on the hub with the studs lined up near enough in the first place.

[carlschmid2002]

Not all Army Perentie rims were split rims. I have only seen them fitted to the Special Patrol 4x4s and the patrol 6 x6s.

[bushrover]

I ended up with 9 Landcruiser split rims for $10.00 each and $80.00 each to have centres made and fitted. Summerfield Engineering in Perth, or the business may now be Summerfield Rims. Cost me more in freight to and from Perth than the rims did.

Rick

[wrinklearthur]

kubota front rims are the right pattern for a deefer. If you get the right model.

Hi Dave

I would put that information about the Kubota wheel in the curiosity bin, as I am not a fan of Japanese built tractors.

The neighbor has a 75 HP Kubota and I have a 55 HP Massey Ferguson 165, both tractors needed a water pump about the same time, the price for both parts was wildly different.

At the time when these repairs were done;
the Kubota water pump was, with freight $780.00. It took weeks to get the correct one from Japan.
the Massey Ferguson pump was, with freight less than $100.00. Came overnight from supplies kept on the shelf and fitted within a day of being ordered.

In fact if I had budgeted $800 and the three weeks of time off to fix it, I could have had a nice holiday with the change left over of money and time.

A link with more about Kubota wheels.

meat: Kubota vs John Deere (http://ebeyfarm.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/kubota-vs-john-deere.html) .
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[rick130]

i have a set of 6 from a perentie, need some blasting and coating but will get round to it soon. as they are hard to find nowadays, i would graft some disco centres onto cruiser rims i reckon, then you could pick your offset too:)

Eastern wheel works willl do that job easily.

jc

How heavy are they JC ?

I remember my ex-JRA mate reckoning they were so over the top weight wise it wasn't funny.

[rick130]

Hi Dave

I would put that information about the Kubota wheel in the curiosity bin, as I am not a fan of Japanese built tractors.

The neighbor has a 75 HP Kubota and I have a 55 HP Massey Ferguson 165, both tractors needed a water pump about the same time, the price for both parts was wildly different.

At the time when these repairs were done;
the Kubota water pump was, with freight $780.00. It took weeks to get the correct one from Japan.
the Massey Ferguson pump was, with freight less than $100.00. Came overnight from supplies keep on the shelf and fitted within a day of being ordered.

In fact if I had budgeted $800 and the three weeks of time off to fix it, I could have had a nice holiday with the change left over of money and time.

A link with more about Kubota wheels.

meat: Kubota vs John Deere (http://ebeyfarm.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/kubota-vs-john-deere.html) .
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That's a shame, as we used a Kubota 75HP tractor, as well as a front deck mower and most all the other gear including mowers and brushcutters on a farm we used to be on and I really liked it.

It was all bought new so nothing major every failed in the time we were there and we had a great servicing dealer.

Your MF parts are much the same as our old Fiat stuff, Bareco or New Holland have most everything on the shelf even though the tractor is forty years old.

Have I derailed this thread enough now ? :D

[justinc]

How heavy are they JC ?

I remember my ex-JRA mate reckoning they were so over the top weight wise it wasn't funny.

:( They are heavy Rick, unsprung weight is a concern for suspension control, twin shocks or Raid 90's may have to be fitted :) :) BUT combined with the fact that they are 'OE' Landrover fitment and split rim I'm happy to use them.

JC

[p38arover]

I suggest a wheel manufacturer. Years ago a friend used to have a factory here in Penrith. He would plasma cut centres of any design, press them into a dish shape, and weld them into the rims.

I expect others in Oz can do the same thing but with even great accuracy with today's CAD and laser cutters.

[cinan]

Not all Army Perentie rims were split rims. I have only seen them fitted to the Special Patrol 4x4s and the patrol 6 x6s.
Maybe a silly question but how do you tell if a rim is a split rim or not ?

[isuzutoo-eh]

Maybe a silly question but how do you tell if a rim is a split rim or not ?

Hi Cinan,
If your rims look like the ones on this 110:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/10.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HJ65/media/Random%20pics/28072011211.jpg.html)
(photo borrowed from Sixty via REMLR)
They are split rims. Note they look like a flat bit of plate where the wheel studs go, no contours at all.

If they look like anything else, 99% chance they are not split rims. There were a few Series 1s that had splitties and probably some aftermarket ones on the civvy market at some stage, but very uncommon.

[Didge]

Mark, do you know what sort of tyres they are? Are they the Michelen XLZ or something like that - I quite like that aggressive sawtooth pattern but have no idea how they perform or what they cost
cheers Gerald

[isuzutoo-eh]

They are 7.50R16 nylon ply Dunlop Hi-Miler Custom Xtra-Grips, same as I have on my Series.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/9.jpg (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/my2a/2009-8-04_2.jpg.html)

I suggest you don't want them, unless you are already deaf, or want to sound fully sik bro but can't afford both tyres and exhaust. From about 30km/h, they start to moan with a wubwubwubwubwub as the bars hit the ground. At least at higher speeds it blends into one constant whirrr. Mud tyres have nothing on the volume of these beasties.

My set were around $110 each second hand from the army, one still has the camo paint from being taken off an RFSV or LRPV or similar :)

I wish i'd put them on 110 rims instead of Series rims, just to give them a try on the County :evil:

[PAT303]

How heavy are they JC ?

I remember my ex-JRA mate reckoning they were so over the top weight wise it wasn't funny.

I had a set on my second series three,your mates right,the centres were made from 3/8 plate and I hated the things. Pat

[rar110]

I have a set.

They make a wolf rim feel light.

[stealth]

While we are on split rims, does anyone have one of these spare. I need a spare for my trailer.

[Didge]

Love the sound effects Mark :) I don't want them any more :)