written off Td5, wont start

[chris_mack]

Hi all

I rolled my TD5 at 100kph on monday (tyre blow out and lost control) .

Iv bought it back off the insurance company to strip it for spares , however I want to check if it starts. It wont start at the moment but there is that much broken wires, etc that it is probably just an imobilisor problem . when i press the keyfob to unlock the imobilisor not much happens! i think the electrics are all a bit confused.

Is there anyway to bypass all this to check the motor still runs alright before I remove it?

[ozscott]

Good to see your able to type a thread :) Photos?

Cheers

[manic]

blooming ek, a 100kph blow out on a defender = roll over!?

Were you running suspension mods, huge tires or a loaded roof rack?

Glad your ok and still have a rover to tinker with- dunno about the TD5 sorry.

[Xtreme]

Have you reset the roll-over cut-out switch on the engine side of the firewall?

30mm x 30mm x 60mm high with black rubber reset button on top, passenger side of centre.

[Jojo]

Mate, glad you made it without physical harm! A truck can always be replaced. As for the engine, it is probably the cut-off switch activated. Before starting the engine you should remove all injectors and check for oil, otherwise you may get a hydrolock and destroy the engine completely.
Cheers

[Tusker]

Defender or D2?

If a Defender possibly the firewall button as mentioned.

If a D2 it's going to be a tad more complicated methinks. I daresay some of the sensors for the body ECU have been damaged, and now the body ECU won't talk to the engine ECU. Don't quote me, but I think there are even sensors in the roof somewhere.

Regards
Max P

[Loubrey]

Defender section... so we suppose Defender?

BTW - Disco 2 also has a "impact cut-off" as part of it's "limp home" engine protection system. Found that out on an icy winters morning in Worcestershire (stupid place to have a tree..):)

[Tusker]

Defender section... so we suppose Defender?

BTW - Disco 2 also has a "impact cut-off" as part of it's "limp home" engine protection system. Found that out on an icy winters morning in Worcestershire (stupid place to have a tree..):)

Yeah.. except the OP's key fob sounds fancier than mine. What Td5 Defender has an immobiliser?

Regards
Max P

[Allan]

Yeah.. except the OP's key fob sounds fancier than mine. What Td5 Defender has an immobiliser?

Regards
Max P

Our's does, 2004 TD5 90 xtreme. Glad chris mack is ok after the roll. I still am fearful of this in a Defender.

Allan

[chris_mack]

yes its a 2003 extreme 110 defender. Il check the rollover switch tomorrow, not sure though i still feel it may be some form of imobilisor issue.. normally pressing the unlock key on the fob causes the indicators to flash but it wont now. and the first time i tried to start it there was a click from the starter motor but now nothing. poor car is a bit unhappy!

[Sitec]

Before going through the grief of pulling injectors out, get a large socket and bar on the front pulley and turn it over to check for hydrolock. Easier I think! Glad you are alright to!!

[chris_mack]

I was driving along at 100kph with the cruise control on. rear passenger tyre blew, causing the car to lurch sideways. as i tried to straighten up i ended up swerving into the armco barrier, then bounced off that, shot over the road into a ditch and all of a sudden up was down and down was up! 3 or 4 times!

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.... that split lip is the worst injury i suffered! think somebody was on my side on monday...

[dswatts]

You are one very lucky guy:o

[troppojon]

Is that a Safari snorkel?
I have had 2 that have survived roll overs with only a few scratches.One of them at 100kmh.
Tough buggers eh.
It doesn't look like much else is salvageable.

Looks like you will have to buy another Defender and start again like I have.
At least you have a snorkel to go on the next one.

How did you buy it off the insurance company?
Suncorp said I had to bid for my write-off at auction.

Sorry to here about your misfortune.
Better luck with your next one.

[chris_mack]

yer safari snorkel, needs straightening (not sure how.. perhaps a bit of heat??) but fine apart from that. I bought the wreck back off the insurance company, they wanted $2.5k but i got em down to $2k.. still more than i reckon i should have paid but worth it to me. Batteries alone are worth nearly $500, both brand new.. plus ECU chip, rims n tyres (well 3 of them! :P) engine, aftermarket cruise control.. , sound system etc.

[CraigE]

Gee, you are a lucky boy.
Good to see the Fender stood up to such a bad roll over, quite well.
Even better to see you escaped lightly.

[lambrover]

yer safari snorkel, needs straightening (not sure how.. perhaps a bit of heat??) but fine apart from that. I bought the wreck back off the insurance company, they wanted $2.5k but i got em down to $2k.. still more than i reckon i should have paid but worth it to me. Batteries alone are worth nearly $500, both brand new.. plus ECU chip, rims n tyres (well 3 of them! :P) engine, aftermarket cruise control.. , sound system etc.

Please don't re use those rims mate, after a heavy accident like that alloy rims are what we call ****ed.

Maybe you can post in "Does God exist" :D hahahaha

[Yorkshire_Jon]

$2k is pretty good going. T/Box, G/Box & engine are worth more than that if you remove them and sell separately.

As for getting it going again...

Does is turn over but not fire, or does it refuse to turn?

From memory a 10AS (immobilizer problem) will not let it turn over. The roll-over switch that others talk of will let it turn over but not fire into life.

Also, other things to check. Are all your wiring looms and earth braids still intact?

The defender has no bcu like the discos so it'll be either immobilized or the roll over switch, assuming all wires are still intact.

I'm assuming you don't have access to a nano on to read the fault log and live input data?

Glad yr ok by the way.

J

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[lebanon]

Happy to see that you came out of this terrible accident with minor cuts.

I have the same fear when driving mine with the kids in the back seat. I had once a blown front wheel at 80 KPH but have managed to stop the car.

I am convinced that an external roll-cage could preserve the body at the occupants.

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Terrafirma 110 NAS Euro spec | Roll Cages - Safety Devices Accessories for Land Rover Vehicles (http://www.terrafirma4x4.com/products_php.php?cat=20&grp=324)