Disco 4 off road tyres

[Blocker]

Does anyone have an opinion on the best off road LT tyres for a disco 4. Current tyres are 265/60R18.

Need to ensure I don't void the warranty.

Looking for abou 70% road 30% mud

Thanks in advance

[gghaggis]

Whew! If you just look at the listing of topics you'll see every 4th or 5th one is about tyres!!

There are no LT tyres in that size commonly available. So the question becomes :

Do you really NEED LT tyres, or

Can you do with another size?

Cheers,

Gordon

[101RRS]

Yep heaps and heaps and heaps and heaps of threads and posts just in the the RRS/D3/D4 section let alone in other areas.

BFGs AT in a slightly larger size (265/65R18LT) but probably not much more.

Garry

[mbecker7]

Cooper AT3's have been awesome for me!
Quiet, comfortable, capable And look the part.
The size is 265/60/18 and no problems with clearance that you may get with the overpriced BFG's.

[gghaggis]

Cooper AT3's have been awesome for me!
Quiet, comfortable, capable And look the part.


They're a _very_ good tyre :cool:

But not LT

Cheers,

Gordon

[ADMIRAL]

I agree with Gordon. If you are stuck with 18's, I would think really hard about what you need, rather than want out of your tyres. As I have noted previously in other posts, I am coming around to the view, that you should not look to make big changes to the tyres or suspension on a D3/4, or you risk changing the character of the vehicle. ( and after all, that is why you chose the Disco over other options, isn't it ? ) My opinion.

Do a search. There are a lot of threads on tyres for D3/4's .

[TerryO]

The Cooper AT3's are excellent tyres.

cheers,
Terry

[mbecker7]

You can get the AT3 in LT construction but the size is a little bigger at 275/65/18 with outside diameter of 815mm.
Problems with clearance surely will be an issue.

[Disco4SE]

You can get the AT3 in LT construction but the size is a little bigger at 275/65/18 with outside diameter of 815mm.
Problems with clearance surely will be an issue.
You are right here. My new Cooper LTZ's are 800mm outside diameter and just rub on the front chassis rails when reversing in my driveway. Haven't been off road with them yet.

Re: AT3's. Great tyre. Almost brought them instead of the LTZ's.
My brother has them on his Hilux and only yesterday, made the comment that they are noisier than the previous ATR's that he had on it. The AT3 is an upgraded version on the ATR (for those that didn't know).

Cheers, Craig

[PaulD68]

AT3 just awesome. I had Cooper HT before but they were no so good, givinf understeer in the wet. The AT3 has a more aggresive tread but grips so much better. No more noise either.

[TerryO]

Unless I'm going deaf the AT3's have made ino ncrease in cabin noise when fitted to our D3.

cheers,
Terry

[Ozzy119]

Unless I'm going deaf the AT3's have made ino ncrease in cabin noise when fitted to our D3.

cheers,
Terry

I agree. Had mine fitted at the weekend and am very happy with them. Found a good track with some decent creek crossing just after they were fitted and am very happy with their grip. Feel much more confident in rough gravel now.

[PJR]

Hi. I am new this this forum and also 4 wheel driving.
I need some advice on best off road tyers to fit to my Disco 4 - 18" rims.
I noticed a few good comments on Cooper AT3's.
Are there any others i should consider?
Is there a big compromise on road, especially in the wet, with these types of tyers?
Cheers :)

[gghaggis]

Hi. I am new this this forum and also 4 wheel driving.
I need some advice on best off road tyers to fit to my Disco 4 - 18" rims.
I noticed a few good comments on Cooper AT3's.
Are there any others i should consider?
Is there a big compromise on road, especially in the wet, with these types of tyers?
Cheers :)

Consider:

Mickey Thompson STZ 265/60R18
Pirelli ATR 265/60R18
Continental CrossContact AT
Goodyear Silent Armor 265/60R18
BFG AT 265/65R18
Cooper Zeon LTZ 285/60R18


Cheers,

Gordon

[Stuart02]

It might just be me but I find ATs actually come into their own on wet bitumen, particularly if there's standing water.

[discojools]

Just had a set of General Grabber ATs (255/60/18) fitted to my D4. A bit noisier especially at 90kph than GY Wranglers. A bit of a drone reminiscent of my KM2s but no where near as bad. Ride seems much better especially on our dirt road. Seems to have plenty of grip on and off road better than the AT2s that I had on my D3.

[stray dingo]

I was talking to my local tyre dude today and he quoted me $336 ea for the 'new' 255/55/19 grabbers. Still not LT. These supposedly haven't even had brochures printed up yet. Can someone confirm that the image below is definitely not Grabber AT or AT2 .

Ta

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[discojools]

Looks like the same as tread mine so called AT.. Apparently the AT2s (tread like BFG AT) are still available but only for little while..

[trif]

I was talking to my local tyre dude today and he quoted me $336 ea for the 'new' 255/55/19 grabbers. Still not LT. These supposedly haven't even had brochures printed up yet. Can someone confirm that the image below is definitely not Grabber AT or AT2 .

They are the GG AT, the same as l have fitted to my 19 inch rims. Mine were $296 each fitted and balanced.

Regards Trif.

[Duke4]

I had a set go GG AT's fitted last week for $285 ea fitted and balanced and $55 for wheel alignment, been happy with them for the 120km I've done so far?

Ps they were the 255/55/19's

The cheapest quote was for $279 ea but I forgo the $24 to have it all done at the same time as the service.

[stray dingo]

thanks. I wondered if he knew what he was talking about...
well, it was a Kumho dealer :D

[hydeslane]

Can I ask where you got the GGs at $279. I've been quoted $320 & $340. Tyre power.

[~Rich~]

I paid $297 ea at a Jax Tyre dealer in Brookvale Sydney.

[jonesy63]

I'm still really happy with my steel wheels and BFG KM2 in 245/70R17.

Banged out a bent lip once and still going strong.

[discojools]

Agreed KM2s are a great tyre that I could live with if I wasn't lucky enough to have 2 sets of wheels.
Price for my new 18" GG ATs was $270 each at Tyrepower Camberwell run by Sam and Mike who is on this forum
Good blokes to deal with.

[SBD4]

Can I ask where you got the GGs at $279. I've been quoted $320 & $340. Tyre power.


Got 5 x GG AT 255x55R19 from from Jax at Artarmon $288/tyre fitted.

[Duke4]

Can I ask where you got the GGs at $279. I've been quoted $320 & $340. Tyre power.

Jax Castle Hill quoted $279 ea

[discotwinturbo]

Jax Castle Hill quoted $279 ea

They are certainly cheap in price......what's there life like ?

Brett....

[elsey]

G'day,

Has anyone who is running General Grabbers on their D4 used them in real off road/outback conditions if so:

1 How did they aquit themselves?
2 Did they sustain any/much damage?
3 Any sidewall damage?
4 How are they wearing?
5 Would you buy them again?

I want to replace my road tyres and am trying to decide between the Cooper LTZs and the G Gs. I know that there is a reasonable price difference and am wondering if there is really that much difference between the two brands.

Elsey

[Robocop]

Very happy with the coopers. Have noticed a drop in economy which is to be expected.

47014

[dukemasterpro]

Very happy with the coopers. Have noticed a drop in economy which is to be expected.

47014

Which Coopers are these?

[Epic pooh]

Elsey,

Have GG AT 255/55 19 on d3 hse v8. Have been in most offroad conditions on them - around 10,000km so far so wear is too early to tell (at this point they look like new still despite some serious gravel/rock work). I haven't had any damage whatsoever on rocks & gravel, they are excellent in thick mud and slushy dirt roads. On road performance is excellent, wet or dry, comparable or better in all respects to previous Pirelli zeros.

Only comment is that they are audible at high speed - no noisier than the Pirelli zeros I had previously, but a different pitch which has taken some getting used to. Considering they are at least $150-$170 per tyre less than coopers or Pirelli ATR, I'd buy them again.

HTH

[~Rich~]

Which Coopers are these?
Coopers LTZ Zion's, on my second set now!

[Robocop]

As Rich said.. And about $480 each.

[Disco4SE]

As Rich said.. And about $480 each.

Paid $430.00 each for mine

Cheers, Craig

[discojools]

I agree with Epic Pooh re GG AT. After a couple of drives I am finding them pretty noisy especially at cruising speed...don't think they are much quieter than my KM2s. in every other espect they seem very good especially on dirt., better than the GG AT2s I had on my D3.
Slightly regretting buying them( despite the good price) as I don't really need and off road tyre as I use the KM2s for anything offroad.
If anybody local is interested I may sell the GGs on, they have only done about 1000k.

[Disco4SE]

Bloody hell Jools.
That's pretty dramatic wanting to sell them so soon.
The Pirelli ATR's were probably the quietest AT tyre I have ever had.......and quite capable off road.

Will keep my ears open re: selling your GG's.

Cheers, Craig

[gotaflat]

I agree with Epic Pooh re GG AT. After a couple of drives I am finding them pretty noisy especially at cruising speed...don't think they are much quieter than my KM2s. in every other espect they seem very good especially on dirt., better than the GG AT2s I had on my D3.
Slightly regretting buying them( despite the good price) as I don't really need and off road tyre as I use the KM2s for anything offroad.
If anybody local is interested I may sell the GGs on, they have only done about 1000k.

What are you planning to replace them with?

[discojools]

Well that's the big question..Any suggestions would be good. Disco4SE suggested Pirelli ATRs.

[Redback]

G'day,

Has anyone who is running General Grabbers on their D4 used them in real off road/outback conditions if so:

1 How did they aquit themselves?......... NOT VERY GOOD
2 Did they sustain any/much damage? ...YES, TORN TREAD ALL 4 FITTED
3 Any sidewall damage? ......................YES, 3 OF THE 5 FITTED
4 How are they wearing? .....................OK
5 Would you buy them again?............... NOT ON YOUR LIFE

I want to replace my road tyres and am trying to decide between the Cooper LTZs and the G Gs. I know that there is a reasonable price difference and am wondering if there is really that much difference between the two brands.

Elsey

My thoughts in bold red above;)

All 5 GG AT2s are now in the shed, 2 are awaiting warranty replacement for sidewall damage sustained when we were in the high country, one has been replaced with a GG AT, just waiting to select 2 new tyres, we are going to put the new tyres on our camper, we have gone to 17" rims and Kumho KL78 ATs on the D4, these are a brilliant tyre and being 17s, they are LT.

Baz.

[BGD]

Hi evryone i have read through this thread and lots of good info, i was getting a bit frustrated after talking to three tyre dealers in metro melbourne and none of them could help me.

I see a couple of options for all terrains but i was hoping to find a mud terrain solution. I belive that i can fit 17" rims on the 2.7 but even thats not as easy at it seems trying to find a rim that is the right offset and allows for the right number of threads on the nut. I know of a set of d3 18" landrover rims for sale that i thought if i could get some 18s muddies, i can have a road tyre and an offorad set. But that has been any easier as well.

Any help would be greatfully received and also help on a good tyre dealer in melbourne wouldnt go astray.

Cheers and thanks
George

[TerryO]

Hi George,

I have a set of Australian made 'Performance Wheels' model name BB6. They look good on the vehicle and you can specify what off set you want and their load rating is the same or higher than D3 wheels from memory.

http://www.performancewheels.com.au/Home/Wheels.asp'theGroup=4&Cat=4WD

Or you can look at various BMW wheels like Barry (Redback) has. He reckons they are the go and they do look good on his D4.

cheers,
Terry

[101RRS]

Hi George - I don't believe there are any 18" muddies in a size range that will fit an unmodded vehicle.

Garry

[Disco4SE]

Hi evryone i have read through this thread and lots of good info, i was getting a bit frustrated after talking to three tyre dealers in metro melbourne and none of them could help me.

I see a couple of options for all terrains but i was hoping to find a mud terrain solution. I belive that i can fit 17" rims on the 2.7 but even thats not as easy at it seems trying to find a rim that is the right offset and allows for the right number of threads on the nut. I know of a set of d3 18" landrover rims for sale that i thought if i could get some 18s muddies, i can have a road tyre and an offorad set. But that has been any easier as well.

Any help would be greatfully received and also help on a good tyre dealer in melbourne wouldnt go astray.

Cheers and thanks
George
Hi George,
Speak to Michael from Tyrepower Camberwell.
He has a great knowledge of tyres and is a member of this forum. Also does great wheel alignments.

Cheers, Craig

[scarry]

Hi evryone i have read through this thread and lots of good info, i was getting a bit frustrated after talking to three tyre dealers in metro melbourne and none of them could help me.

I see a couple of options for all terrains but i was hoping to find a mud terrain solution. I belive that i can fit 17" rims on the 2.7 but even thats not as easy at it seems trying to find a rim that is the right offset and allows for the right number of threads on the nut. I know of a set of d3 18" landrover rims for sale that i thought if i could get some 18s muddies, i can have a road tyre and an offorad set. But that has been any easier as well.

Any help would be greatfully received and also help on a good tyre dealer in melbourne wouldnt go astray.

Cheers and thanks
George

If you want to limit tyre issues,i would go for 17's,and make sure you get a LT rated tyre.There are LT's in 18"s but they will be bigger than the OEM size & will rub etc.
The LT's in 17" are available in OEM size or very similar,such as 245/70/17.

One thing i absolutely HATE is having tyre trouble while in remote areas..........:mad:

Having changed to LT tyres around 10yrs ago on both the D2a & now on the D4,i have never changed a tyre.And thats after a couple of long Cape trips,desert trips,etc,etc.

Don't get me wrong,an LT tyre can still be destroyed,but it will be the most robust tyre that fits the D3/4.

[BGD]

Thanks to everyone for their quick replies...

I think I will either look for some ATs on 18s, or i like the idea of running some muddies on 18s like the maxxis tyres with the GOE rods link (http://www.greenovalexperience.com/eas_rods.html)... sounds too good to be true... bit like Buz01 setup (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/120913-show-us-your-disco-sport-must-read-first-post-first-4.html#post1461715).. that works for me

as someone at work said $140 for a 3" lift, now thats cheap! I will also give Michael a call at Tyrpower Camberwell as he seems on to it.

Cheers George

[kingo]

Hi George, I have a set of Maxxis Bighorn muddies on some BMW X5 rims for my D3 and use them for weekend outings and so far all good. They are 265/70/17LT, a bit noisier but to be expected.
The tyres were a bit over $300 ea and the X5 rims $200 for the 4 off ebay,plus $60 for the correct wheel nuts sent from the USA.
Have just put them back on as I"m heading to the high country tomorrow for the weekend. Tyrepower in Canterbury Rd Surrey Hills looked after me very well and would recommend them.
Id go some muddies and keep road tyres for daily use.

Good luck

Andrew

[PJR]

Hi Kingo
I am interested to know what wheels you have and what type of wheel nuts you got. I have a set of BMW 17" rims but need to get some wheel nuts to suit.

[Wheelan]

Any help would be greatfully received and also help on a good tyre dealer in melbourne wouldnt go astray.

Cheers and thanks
George

Jax Caulfield have been great for me, check http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/218692-toyo-at2-285-60-18-high-country-trip.html

[Graeme]

I have a set of BMW 17" rims but need to get some wheel nuts to suit.The centre nut in the picture in the following link. 14mm x 1.50 E/T Ultra Mag Seat Lug Nuts (http://www.brandsport.com/etultramagseat4.html)