Would you replace these bushes?

[Yorkshire_Jon]

As the title guys, or the rear control arms on a 2006 defender (original bushes)... This is with the car level, can easily get 5mm plus gap between bush and chassis with smallest bit of flex.

Thoughts please.

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[justinc]

Jon,

Those bushes are well due to be replaced, the first pic seems to show that they have even dropped in the centre 'guide'.

You'll notice that if they get any worse, the vehicle will start throttle steering, as the rear axle pushes forward under load:o and drops back on a trailing throttle.

I'd chuck 'em.

JC

[130man]

I agree with Justin. They are well past their useby date. I would expect you will find an improvement in steering which you may not have noticed deteriorating over time. Cheers, 130man.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Thanks guys. That's pretty much what I thought.

Another job for the to-do list.

I'll probably do the other end at the same time too.

Thx
Jon

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[SimonM]

Mine are in similar state. I have replacements but haven't done the job yet.

[JDNSW]

Would you replace these bushes?

Yes.

John

[Tombie]

No jack or anything required...

Do one side at a time...

Whole job for front bushes only about 20 minutes....

[Bushie]

And I bet they have all separated into their component parts.

Martyn

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Ok, so rear trailing arm bushes (4 in total) to replace...

Would you do the front radius arm bushes (6 in total) at the same time? After-all, they've been in just as long and have gone everywhere the rears have!

Next question, for those that need pressing in, Superpro with no press or genuine with press???

Thx
J

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[justinc]

Ok, so rear trailing arm bushes (4 in total) to replace...

Would you do the front radius arm bushes (6 in total) at the same time? After-all, they've been in just as long and have gone everywhere the rears have!

Next question, for those that need pressing in, Superpro with no press or genuine with press???

Thx
J

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My PERSONAL preference is genuine ONLY.

JC

[Xtreme]

My PERSONAL preference is genuine ONLY.

JC

^ x2

One of our members replaced bushes with non-genuine and only travelled from Sydney to Purnie Bore before they were history.

Looks like you may have discovered the cause of your steering problem Jon.

Are you replacing them before next weekend or do we have a job to do at camp next Saturday night? ;)

[Yorkshire_Jon]

I've always used genuine rubber in the UK, but I had access to a press then.

Anyone know anyone with a press, ideally lower north shore...

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[Yorkshire_Jon]

^ x2

One of our members replaced bushes with non-genuine and only travelled from Sydney to Purnie Bore before they were history.

Looks like you may have discovered the cause of your steering problem Jon.

Are you replacing them before next weekend or do we have a job to do at camp next Saturday night? ;)

Hopefully that's the cause Roger, I'll know for sure soon enough!

No desperate rush to swap them out, Ellie needs the car on Sunday so we'll be in Pete's D2 Friday through Monday.

Clearly I need to do them sooner rather than later though.

J

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[justinc]

Hopefully that's the cause Roger, I'll know for sure soon enough!

No desperate rush to swap them out, Ellie needs the car on Sunday so we'll be in Pete's D2 Friday through Monday.

Clearly I need to do them sooner rather than later though.

J

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Jon,

What steering issues have you had?

JC

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Jon,

What steering issues have you had?

JC

It's a very annoying wobble / knocking at about 80-90kph, it shakes the car a bit but is most noticeable through the wheel and particularly when going round a bend.

It's not wheels balancing or tyres or front DC prop. No noticeable play in any of the steering ball joints. Steering damper is new (old one sprung a leak on CSR). No play n wheel bearings.

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[justinc]

OK almost 100% you have soft/ failed delaminated Radius rod to axle housing bushes. They will cause these symptoms especially on sweeping bends at speed.
Also check panhard rod for tightness/ bush movement
:)

JC

[Yorkshire_Jon]

OK, so I replaced the rear trailing arm bushes (front and rear) along with the front radius arm bushes (front and rear) at the weekend.

The front end bushes on the rear arms were flogged and needed replacing.

The Radius arm bushes were not too bad, but had defo seen better days.

Unfortunately I still have my steering shake / wobble / knocking.

Panhard rod has no sign of movement, neither does the track rod and associated ball joints.

Im really at a loss as to where this shake annoying is coming from...:twisted:

[130man]

Hi Jon, I imagine you have checked that your wheel bearings are not loose? Otherwise the Railko bushes in the top of the swivel hubs have been known to wear, assuming your vehicle has them. One other item to check is that the steering arm on the base of the steering box is on firmly. I had trouble with that on my Isuzu County some years back. It allowed some wobble to develop and had me scratching my head for quite a while. Cheers, 130man.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Hi Jon, I imagine you have checked that your wheel bearings are not loose? Otherwise the Railko bushes in the top of the swivel hubs have been known to wear, assuming your vehicle has them. One other item to check is that the steering arm on the base of the steering box is on firmly. I had trouble with that on my Isuzu County some years back. It allowed some wobble to develop and had me scratching my head for quite a while. Cheers, 130man.

Thanks.
Railko bushes????? Never heard them called that before. Mines a 2006 TD5 110.

Wheel bearings all felt fine a few thousand km ago when I checked.

I'll check the steering box out though, thanks for the tip.

Thx
J

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