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101 Ron
14th May 2012, 05:20 PM
I was getting my boat trailer rego checked the other day and was curious about how heavy the boat and trailer was.
The tow vehicle these days is the 101 and it use to be a defender TDI300 130.
Defender was never happy pulling the boat , but it did handle the weight it self with ease.
The 101 pulls the boat with about the same performance as the defender, but just does it with less fuss and good start off in first gear.
On the way home I took the combination over the weight bridge.
101 2.48 tonnes
Boat/trailer2.56 tonnes.
combination.....5.04
I was supprized and will have to fit vacuum breakaway brakes to the 101.
The boat had a empty fuel tank and takes 200litres of fuel which is equal to about another 175 kg.
The gas and fuel tank on the 101 was all most empty, which would add another 130 kg if full
The above exercise shows the 101 is a great little tow wagon if not thirsty with that sort of load.
Why is my 101 over 500 kg over weight when it should be about 2000kg instead of 2500kg.
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 05:25 PM
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p38arover
14th May 2012, 05:28 PM
Why is my 101 over 500 kg over weight when it should be about 2000kg instead of 2500kg.
Were you in it when on the weighbridge? :angel:
:D
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 05:36 PM
This is what I have came up with.
65 litre LPG tank....empty.....about 40 kg ?????T
The front Bullbar is steel and of very thick section thoughout......about 60 kg ???
twin jerrycan holders on rear.......with empty jerry cans 10kg each equals 20 kg.
The side jerry can holder was full going over the weight bridge, so I add 20 kg for the water and about 5 kg for the alloy and steel holder.....25 kg.
The extra tool box with winching shackels and snatch strap etc, the box is alloy constrution....................................... .......................20 kg
front air tank, engine driven compressor, horn etc...................10 kg
empty fridge in the back when over the weight bridge.................30 kg
Tools in the tool boxes at rear wheel arches...............................20 kg.
Heavier tyres............................................. ..I wouldnt have a clue.
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 05:38 PM
Were you in it when on the weighbridge? :angel:
:D
The driver was not in it.......:D:D:p and if I was it is only 84 kg.
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 05:44 PM
Extra tow bar arrangement....................................... ........ 10kg
I cannot think of anything else.
It is interesting the 200 kg drawbar down load doesnt worry the 101 back suspension on a short wheel base and in fact it doesnt move at all, but the front suspension does rise very slightly
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 05:52 PM
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101 Ron
14th May 2012, 06:00 PM
I do have another 10 mtrs of 9mm steel winch cable.
Cast iron ARB diff covers.........??????
Even allowing for that and other small things my 101 should be 300 kg too fat and not 500 kg.
p38arover
14th May 2012, 06:15 PM
Weight of the canvas tilt and hoops? They're probably not in the spec.weight.
101RRS
14th May 2012, 06:36 PM
if I was it is only 84 kg.
Keep on dreaming :o
justinc
14th May 2012, 06:47 PM
Ron,
Weights aside, and a little OT but you without doubt have the best tow vehicle for that boat:D
JC
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 06:55 PM
I can not find my 101 drivers book which states the weights for a 101 GS 24 volt.
What I do remember is if towing with a 101 one must have 500kg over or behind the rear axle in the cargo area.
This was of course for the british army which towed 1800kg guns with the 101 and the gun would never normally have been towed without the load of ammo or the gun crew with persnal effects etc.
Mick_Marsh
14th May 2012, 07:15 PM
Did you take into account the weight of the trailer on the tow ball?
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 07:19 PM
They where done separately so tow ball weight is not a factor.
101 Ron
14th May 2012, 07:42 PM
Keep on dreaming :o
I still have that pic of you bending over at a winter rallie to use as black mail.
Put in your diary early August for the next winter rallie.
You might get a drive of 4.6 101 if Ian shows up.
p38arover
14th May 2012, 07:44 PM
I can not find my 101 drivers book which states the weights for a 101 GS 24 volt.
From the 'net:
GS Version Specs
Crew: 1+1 (in front)
Engine: Rover 3.5 litre aluminum V-8 petrol engine
Transmission: manual 4 forward/ 1 reverse
Transfer: 2 speed
Top Speed: 75 mph(according to the book)
Weight (empty): 4242 lbs
Height: 7 ft
Length: 13 ft 61/2 in
Width: 6 ft 1/2 in
Electrical System: 12 or 24 volt (24 volt Fitted For Radios [FFR])
Tires: 9.00 X 16
drifter
14th May 2012, 08:43 PM
I still have that pic of you bending over at a winter rallie to use as black mail.
Ron, it's a normal pose for him - I think we all have pics of Garry in that position so its blackmail potential is lessened :)
Besides - he assumes the pose so often I think he likes us taking pics of his 'better' side :D
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