Are the cabin 12v sockets ignition controlled?

[Ozzy119]

Hi,

I'm curious if the 12v outlets beside the gear stick are always on, or ignition controlled?

I've recently installed my UHF and as a temp power feed I'm using one, but I have noticed the radio stays on after I turn the engine off.

Any advice?

cheers

[sniegy]

They are ignition controlled & will time out after 2-3mins from memory.
Cheers

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[Disco4SE]

I have wired the drivers side front 12V socket & the one behind the centre console directly to the second battery. This way, I can keep phones etc on charge and not worry about the charger going off once the igiontion has timed out.
Same with the rear socket in the back of the wagon.

Cheers, Craig

[Graeme]

I replaced the relay in the cabin fuse box with a link to provide permanent power to all aux power sockets except the driver's side front console which doesn't exist on mine now anyway.

[jonesy63]

I think the answer will depend on what car the OP was referring to!

IIRC, the D3 was ignition controlled power socket. Whereas my D4 has two power sockets - the one on the passenger side is also ignition controlled. However the driver side one on the D4 is timed for 2 mins after ignition is turned off, and comes on when a door is opened - for another 2 minutes. I learned this the hard way - trying to charge an iPhone when camping after I got my D4 - before I had installed permanent power to the luggage space. Imagine the joy of opening the door every two minutes to charge a phone! :angel::D

[Ozzy119]

I have wired the drivers side front 12V socket & the one behind the centre console directly to the second battery. This way, I can keep phones etc on charge and not worry about the charger going off once the igiontion has timed out.
Same with the rear socket in the back of the wagon.

Cheers, Craig

That's useful Craig, how did you get to it. I'd like to wire up my UHF to one of them and have only just started to ponder how I get in there. D4.

cheers,

[Disco4SE]

That's useful Craig, how did you get to it. I'd like to wire up my UHF to one of them and have only just started to ponder how I get in there. D4.

cheers,
Ahh, I know I sound really clever, but it was my auto electrician that did it whilst doing the second battery etc :)

Cheers, Craig

[jonesy63]

That's useful Craig, how did you get to it. I'd like to wire up my UHF to one of them and have only just started to ponder how I get in there. D4.

cheers,

Instead of tapping into the power socket source, why not just crimp a male spade connector onto your power lead and plug it into one of the spare spots on the fuse board? It sits behind the lower glove box, near the bottom of the fuse board.

[Ozzy119]

Instead of tapping into the power socket source, why not just crimp a male spade connector onto your power lead and plug it into one of the spare spots on the fuse board? It sits behind the lower glove box, near the bottom of the fuse board.

Hi Jonesy63,

I was hoping to avoid any more hassles with getting wires through the firewall. I already have coax aerial, Traxide 12v to rear and P3 brake controller so I'm pretty full on the 2 available holes. Aside from which it's a total arse getting cables through them.

With the power source already in place I woud like to just tap into it. At the moment I have a simple connection using the smokes plug.

[jonesy63]

Ozzy - re-read my post... the fuse board is behind the lower glovebox. Take your existing power lead for your UHF, crimp a male spade connector on the end - and plug it into the spare power socket in the fuse board. It is already in the cabin - behind the glove box - no need to run power through the firewall.

[jonesy63]

I just had a look in the D4 fuse board - F26, F28, F29, F41 spots are all spare. The lower connector in them is live. F28 is definitely permanently live all the time, I didn't check the others.

[Ozzy119]

Ozzy - re-read my post... the fuse board is behind the lower glovebox. Take your existing power lead for your UHF, crimp a male spade connector on the end - and plug it into the spare power socket in the fuse board. It is already in the cabin - behind the glove box - no need to run power through the firewall.

I didn't read it properly. That sounds like a great solution. I haven't had chance to look at yet, but is there a negative point nearby too?

cheers,

[jonesy63]

There are some ground points under the passenger and driver's side kick panels. Crimp a loop on the end of your negative and put it under the nut there.

[Ozzy119]

They are ignition controlled & will time out after 2-3mins from memory.
Cheers

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Not so in my car. My drivers side supply stays on (well, it certainly is after 45mins, but I haven't tried longer yet).

Slighly moot point now I guess as I'm going to be heading down Jonesy63's idea.

Thanks everyone.

[Ozzy119]

I just had a look in the D4 fuse board - F26, F28, F29, F41 spots are all spare. The lower connector in them is live. F28 is definitely permanently live all the time, I didn't check the others.

If I do go this way and feed off a spare fuse port effectively it opens the circuit on that line. Presumably there is also a wire running somewhere off that fuse line to a feature not activated in my vehicle. I'm just cautious of having it running live without knowing what it is or if it is safely closed off at the other end?

thoughts anyone?

[jonesy63]

Ozzy - by taking a feed off the lower connectors of the fuse socket, and then going into your (fused) UHF power lead - you are not opening any circuits anywhere - other than to your CB. It is just a 12V point which is not used - look at the fuse map on top of the lower glove box.

[Ozzy119]

Thanks Jonesy63,all done now. I will just snip the upper prong from the connector so it doesn't touch the top fuse socket and get feed from only the lower section. It's handy to know there are some spares too.

[PTCAAR]

I replaced the relay in the cabin fuse box with a link to provide permanent power to all aux power sockets except the driver's side front console which doesn't exist on mine now anyway.

Hi Graeme and brains trust,
I know this is an old thread, but i'm looking at getting permanent power to my aux sockets in the centre console and was wondering if you had information of how you went about this process and if you have had any issues? I understand i could rewire a constant feed from the fuses behind the lower passanger side glovebox to the sockets, but if i don't have to go to the trouble of removing the centre console etc to get to the back of the sockets i'd be very keen no to.
I couldn't find much about this in my searches however i found one post from"LandRovers Only", which i've attached below. Is this what you did Graeme? Any advice thoughts would be most welcomed.
Cheers Peter
"A few years back, I pulled the R1 relay behind the lower passenger side glovebox and inserted a jumper wire.
R1 is the bigger of the 3 relays. The middle one is for the cigarette lighter if I recall correctly and on 15 amp fuse 55.
I seem to recall the bigger R1 relay controls the three AUX socket(s) and will be powered full time when the relay is removed and jumped, certainly the one AUX at the front -just forget now for certain, but it works. 15 amp fuses 19, 34, and 47 protect the Aux sockets."


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