MY WAGON new toy

[banjo]

Well i brought a series 2a wagon its a 72 one of the last..Its the first wagon ive owned ..Some pics..

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It has a holden 253 4.2 V8 & a nissan cabstar gearbox..needs a little work for engineering then rego..

I brought it off John (drifter) from on here..

[banjo]

Finaly moved it into the yard today.

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Took the flares off

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Took the steps off

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Going to take these freewheeling hubs off & just put drive flanges on which i have in the shed..

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Not sure whats going on with the wheelnuts.I'mguessing they are the short type.Any ideas.

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The baulkhead has been cut on the sides for the V8 .I dont like the way its been done so will probably redo ..

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Duel exhaust YAY sounds great to..

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HHHHMMMMMMM mite need a tune up..

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I've never ever owned a landy with one of these .How lucky am i :p

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I'm on my 10th landy & yet i'm still learning..I did'nt know the rear side doors where one peice i thought they had door tops aswell.Learnin new things every day..

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Havin fun with it tho..

Brakes dont work to well & it doesnt freely roll down the driveway so id say its got laggin shoes..& the steering is so damn heavy ive never felt one like it before , Lucky i putting power steering on it..Dont like the Grill so will replace it with the old one off the series 3 tray back im building as its getting a stage one front end..throwing the seats out & going to make them flip backwards to get into the batteries.Making rock sliders same as whats on the green one..

[will d8r]

Looks real cool hope u get a lot of pleasure out of the beast
Cheers Will

[Ausfree]

What happened to "Harry"???????????????????????:confused:

[Ausfree]

OOps!! sorry had another look, there he is!!!!phew!!!!!:p

[Series3 GT]

I would love that Landy, it looks great and I bet it sounds great. I like the Idea of a 253 Series. I reckon it would make a great Dual Cab.

[robbotd5]

Where you at in Cardiff banjo? I'm in Macquarie hills.
Regards
Robbo

[banjo]

Where you at in Cardiff banjo? I'm in Macquarie hills.
Regards
Robbo

Hi Robbo im sorta in Lachlan RD if ya drive down that you'll find me..

[banjo]

OK a bit of an update..

WEDNESDAY

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THURSDAY
install the pool

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Also started to make the bits for the power steering..

The plates cut to size

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The plates drilled

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Crush tubes cut

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Found the bracket in the shed i need for the power steering pump.

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I have made the plates for the wagon PLUS two extra sets of everything as im going this time..Have ordered the 4140 for the drag link..Will start on the steering column over the weekend..So i will have 2 extra power steering conversions over when i;m finished..
I think the leaks on the front drivers door is the rubbers..Which i will be replacing with defender rubbers all round..
Also going to mod the spare wheel carrier that came with it aswell so it opens the same way as the door & will be attached to the door so just opens with the door..:D:D:D:D

[banjo]

OK now the BIG question..SPRINGS..
Ive had nothing but trouble with spring in the past.the ones on the green one are only 3 years old & just about completely FLAT.& it has the military longer shackles on the back & it sits on its arse & i hate the look of it.
I have the same spring fitted to Harry aswell so i know when thats finished its going to sit on its arse aswell so will have to change them to..

The car should sit LEVEL or a little higher in the arse.
So my question is WHATS THE DIFFERANCE BETWEEN STAGE ONE V8 WAGON SPRINGS & SERIES 2 TO 3 SPRINGS..is it just that the stage one springs have more of an arch or are they longer ??????..
We will be using the wagon as an everyday car & also our camping touring car so will be loaded up & pulling a loaded camper aswell sometimes..I dont have the money to suffarse around with differant springs till i find the right ones.I WILL NOT BE USING THE SAME ONES AS WHATS ON HARRY OR THE GREEN ONE..Anyone have any ideas cause im listening..


King springs??

Heavy duty springs ??

Parabolics ??? mite be outa my price range as i'll need shocks with them

Reset ??? I'm worried that they will colaps in a short time cost more in the end.& thats dearer then what i paid for the new ones on the green one..

Iron man ?? do they even still make leaf springs

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[mick88]

Nice looking wagon Banjo.
I see it has Vic plates on it!
Did you drive it home and if so how does it go with the V8 and the 5 speed, does still rev fairly hard at highway speeds or has it also got higher diffs in it?

Cheers, Mick.

[banjo]

Nice looking wagon Banjo.
I see it has Vic plates on it!
Did you drive it home and if so how does it go with the V8 and the 5 speed, does still rev fairly hard at highway speeds or has it also got higher diffs in it?

Cheers, Mick.

Na Mick its not registered Drifter trailered it up here for me from Canberra , I brought it off him..

Should'nt rev to hard with the 5 speed in it..Still has standard diffs in it..

I cant see it reving to hard either as the engine wont be working as hard to push it along now..

[101RRS]

I see it has Vic plates on it!


They are ACT plates.

[jerryd]

Looks like a great project banjo and I bet it sounds great :cool: I'm impressed that your making spare "power steering " parts, I wonder if they fit dormobiles :D
The dormobile has eight leaves on the rear springs and it had eleven leaves on the front. The rear leaves are a lot thicker than the fronts.
I tried parabolic springs on the dormobile and thought they were awful, they lifted the back end about 65 mm and made the car feel like it wanted to tip over. I've since had the original springs rebuilt, Pedders did the rear ones but I'm not impressed. Bayside Springs did the front springs, he removed one leaf as I wanted a softer ride, he then reset them to the correct height.These now work perfectly and I'm going to get him to do the rear springs again as the rear sits down 20mm lower :mad:

I'm not sure if the stage 1 V8 springs are the same or not.

[Ausfree]

Hi Robbo im sorta in Lachlan RD if ya drive down that you'll find me.. Just look for the house with all the LandRovers parked around it!!!:wasntme:

[drifter]

OK a bit of an update..

...
I think the leaks on the front drivers door is the rubbers..Which i will be replacing with defender rubbers all round..


Was there any water on the passenger side where I put that new rubber?

The drivers side always leaked because of the door seal rubber. That was on the replacement list (the passenger side got done) before I sold it.

Replace those seals and she's a good un.

Those were the only 2 doors that leaked - and the rubber isn't too good around the back doors - but they still seem to seal.

Have fun!

[drifter]

I would love that Landy, it looks great and I bet it sounds great. I like the Idea of a 253 Series. I reckon it would make a great Dual Cab.

yup - it sounds real good idling.... maybe a bit advanced and needs the timing set up properly - but it idles nicely - quiet burble from the exhaust...

Banjo - don't forget to put that exhaust manifold on it - you wouldn't believe the trouble we went to getting it - the one that is on there I had welded and stitched (one hole and 5 cracks) before we found a replacement - and the old one has stumps for studs where the front pipe bolts on. You better check that both nuts are still there :D Sorry Karen :wasntme:


hehe - I miss the bloody thing.

[drifter]

They are ACT plates.

Might be an idea to haul those plates off it and stick them on your shed wall or something, Jason. That series of plates has expired and won't be reissued so, while they are supposed to be returned to ACT Motor Registry, I don't think anyone will miss them.

[drifter]

Not sure whats going on with the wheelnuts.I'mguessing they are the short type.Any ideas.



I've never ever owned a landy with one of these .How lucky am i :p

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Those wheel nuts are standard for the late Series 2a vehicles.

Remember: that towing capacity is in pounds, not kilos - and I wouldn't put too much credence in it... until that engine is redone.

[Series3 GT]

Remember: that towing capacity is in pounds, not kilos - and I wouldn't put too much credence in it... until that engine is redone.

The towing capacity only works out to 2 tons so it's the standard towing capacity.

[pop058]

Finaly moved it into the yard today.

snip <Not sure whats going on with the wheelnuts.I'mguessing they are the short type.Any ideas.

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Jason,

looks like series 3 wheels with the raised ring around the centre. 2A wheels or longer stud should solve the prob.

[banjo]

Jason,

looks like series 3 wheels with the raised ring around the centre. 2A wheels or longer stud should solve the prob.


Thanks Paul i totaly forgot about the differant wheels ..

[banjo]

Well i did'nt start the steering column like i said i was going to..But I noticed the hood lining just above the drivers head had bad rust & was'nt fixable , it was the bit that screws to the roof a bit of metal that runs the width of the roof.. so started to pull it out, glad i did but wish i had'nt..


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Was holding water ya can see the mould

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Took the plates off , more for the wall

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Gave it a coat of white rust epoxy paint..

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I will make another one later down the track just want to get it registered .I will make the metal bit that holds it there from alloy.



SSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH dont tell John i pulled it all out..



Gotta say even with all the doors & vents open its still not a good place to be with paint stripper & then epoxy paint.. Finished it today & i think me head is still spinning..

[banjo]

Here yas go a little update.

I've been flipping the sparewheel carrier so it opens with the door Have'nt got all the pics taken of it yet..

Made the bottom bracket its now longer so theres more room for when it opens..

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Welded & painted

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OMG i have never seen one fitted like this before & no its not just pushed through it on backwards..HAHAHAHAHA

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Now i gave the inside a bit of a clean & a vacumn out scrubs up good..

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Well i dont realy have the room to paint this one just yet & i have to paint Harry first so i thought id just give a little bit a polish & see how it was..The front gaurds & bonnet are badly scratched & faded but will polish the whole car when im finished working on it..

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ALSO brought all the shocks & all the bushes for the springs & chassis.Got a full polly bush kit but also brought the standard rubber ones for the springs as i usualy use them in the springs & polly on the chassis..Brought a duel brake master cylinder Have the new booster.Brought new defender door rubbers for the front door & ordered the rest.Brought 2 baily channel kits as some need fixing & that will be plenty.Im going to use the same spring as on the green one & Harry even tho i dont realy like them but at $65 each brandnew i cant complain.So far all up with all four springs & Ubolts nuts & all the other bits its $650..

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Had another pic but its not working GGGGRRRRRRRRR...

[banjo]

& if someone says that handbrake rubber boot is the right fitting then for years ive been putting them on backwards :o

[banjo]

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They workin now

[Ausfree]

Crikey, you have been a busy little vegemite Jase!!!!:D

[Landy Smurf]

i like the station wagons they have alot more interesting, it seems like yours is a very good one for doing up all complete fairly tidy.looking forward to another rebuild

[banjo]

Ok a small update..


Im thinking that this isnt right but ahwell ..

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Im guessing there was a second skin & someone has cut the outer one..

New rear springs

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Bushes in the springs. This is the first time i have used the poly bushes in the springs.I usualy just use the ruber ones in the springs & poly in the chassis..

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Jacked up & on stands with some rims & tyres behind under the tow bar.A cousin of mine just lost a cousin of hers cause a CAR fell on him while he was working under so thought id make it look good..

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Old springs out

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New springs ready to go in

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Chassis bushes in


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Back on the ground & seems to be siting level But when i do the front it wont be it will look like the bum is dragging.Its just these springs green one was same so had to use military shackles on the rear so will now have to find some more for it..

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Old springs where 8 leaf.

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New springs are 11 leafs.


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While it has been raining i have been doing this ..
All cleaned up

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Painted. But need to finish the bottom bit as i needed to change to a smaller brush.

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Im not happy with the springs but they will do for now.If you use them all 4 & use standard shackles on all 4 it will sit down at the back.So you have to use the military shackles on the rear.But at only $65 each new cant complain..I think i may try some parabolics later down the track as funds are available..Or at least a differant surplier & brand..
Once i put the wheel carrier on with the spare it will sit level with the military shackles..I cant keep throwiing money at the suspension just to get them to sit right..Idealy i would like it to sit slightly higher in the rear with the spare wheel on that way when we load it up & have the camper on it will sit level not dagging on the ground..Have to get it sorted though or i'll end up gettin the ****s & sell all of em & go buy a toyota or nissan or something..I wanna start enjoying them not spending time & money just to get the things to sit right..

[banjo]

Springs are MAX TRAC brand

[Ausfree]

I see your little doggy is showing an interest in what you are doing.:D Actually, with the jack stands, I NEVER crawl under a vehicle that is supported only by a jack, stands are a must!!!:)

You have done a good job on the LandRover badge Jase, looks great!!:D

[banjo]

I see your little doggy is showing an interest in what you are doing.:D Actually, with the jack stands, I NEVER crawl under a vehicle that is supported only by a jack, stands are a must!!!:)

You have done a good job on the LandRover badge Jase, looks great!!:D


Yeah the jacks only still under it cause i was lifting the diff around linning the pin & holes up..

I still have to finish the painting on the badge & give it a good polish.

[The ho har's]

Jason,

You are doing a terrific job on...what it's name...:D


& if someone says that handbrake rubber boot is the right fitting then for years ive been putting them on backwards :o

Ummm yes that is on the correct way;):angel:

Mrs hh:angel:

[Ausfree]

Jason,

You are doing a terrific job on...what it's name...:D



Ummm yes that is on the correct way;):angel:

Mrs hh:angel:I don't think Jase has given it a name yet Carolyn, can I suggest "Ol Yella" for a name!!!:D Reminds me of a movie I saw years ago, can't remember much about it though, I think it came out in the late 50's or early 60's!!:idea: Hey, that would suit, it's around the same era as the Series 2, isn't it. God I'm good!!!:BigThumb::banana::banana::banana:

[Ausfree]

Googled it up, yep the movie was called "Old Yeller" and was a Walt Disney film made in 1957, I have vague recollections of it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Yeller_(1957_film)

I will have to hunt it up to watch again!!:D:D

[banjo]

Yeah we dont have a name for it.Although i wanted to call it DOORA or DORY cause its a 5 door.But Karen would'nt be in that..:(

[banjo]

OK the front spring got here today..

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This is the brand

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Bushes in & ready to go..

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Bent the brackets done both to even the look out.The Passenger side has to be done so the new drag link does'nt rub on it as its alot thicker then the original..

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All jacked up & on stands .I have undone everything so only need to undo the last bit tomorrow & throw the new springs in..the old shocks are already out to..

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Yes you are right that handbrake rubber is on right & its only the green one i put on backwards :D..

[Ausfree]

Please don't call it "Dora" it will get the nickname of "Dopey Dora"!!!:o

[The ho har's]

Orrr 'Dora the explorer' going to be a tourer isn't it;):D

Mrs hh:angel:

[drifter]

Orange Roughy :D

[VK3UTE]

Im with the Ho Har's I like "Dora"
When she's broken down its "dopey Dory" and when she is taking you places you never imagined a car could go its "Dora the Explorer":D

[banjo]

HHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Freakin series landrovers i tell ya a toyota or nissan is starting to look good ..

Put the front suspension in today .. What a cock up i tell ya..

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Got the Ubolts yesdy for the front Now there in..It doesnt look very safe to me..

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Now to the springs even with the V8 in it they didnt move at all when i droped it back on the ground , I even jacked it up a few times to drop it quick & bounce the ****box..

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These are the shackles when i put it back on the ground & bounced it ..& NO THERE NOT TIGHTENED YET ALL STILL LOOSE..

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Drive shaft is at full stretch ..

I seem to have lost that pic GGGGGGRRRRRRR

The car now , you can see it sits high at the front..

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The bloody shocks wouldnt even stretch to reach.Will have to jack up each side & put em on & will have to do the same when i get some longer Ubolts..

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I seriously think its time to change my suplyier they are starting to get so bad with parts its not funny.Karen went upto them yesdy to pick up the springs & the new guy spoke & treated her like a peace of **** then she had to go back to get the Ubolts later ....NOT ****ING HAPPY JAN.


The engine & gearbox is looking like a good swap into Harry at this point..Usualy Karen helps work on the cars as we do it together but she doesnt anymore & im getting real sic of doing everything meself so a toyota or nissan would suit me right now..

[korg20000bc]

I feel for you, mate.

It can be really frustrating.
I'm learning as I go with my restorations but, fortunately, I have never worked on any other type of vehicle to compare it with.

On an Army 2a 88" restoration I'm doing I'm swapping the spring shackles from civilian back to military ones. I had the front end jacked up with everything hanging down. When I undid the front right shackle the spring jumped right back up the the chassis. I had to put a jack between the chassis and the spring to get the distance to fit the shackle.
I think it had to be the spring pack being locked into a high curve by rust and heavy wear steps.
Is it possible that your springs are to tight together?

Also, my knuckle got skinned by a sharp landy bit today- right at the start of a job too.

[jerryd]

What one of these :eek:

Surprisingly this one still goes great :D just needs a little welding ;)

[banjo]

I feel for you, mate.

It can be really frustrating.
I'm learning as I go with my restorations but, fortunately, I have never worked on any other type of vehicle to compare it with.

On an Army 2a 88" restoration I'm doing I'm swapping the spring shackles from civilian back to military ones. I had the front end jacked up with everything hanging down. When I undid the front right shackle the spring jumped right back up the the chassis. I had to put a jack between the chassis and the spring to get the distance to fit the shackle.
I think it had to be the spring pack being locked into a high curve by rust and heavy wear steps.
Is it possible that your springs are to tight together?

Also, my knuckle got skinned by a sharp landy bit today- right at the start of a job too.

Na the spring packs all looked good ..I dont mind the hight but i have to sort out the rear ones to match em..Its just the rear springs are'nt heavy enough as such.Military shackles will sort it but im guessing the front will settle down after awhile ..

[banjo]

What one of these :eek:

Surprisingly this one still goes great :D just needs a little welding ;)

LMAO :Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::TakeABow::TakeABow:

[banjo]

OK well i think i must be the biggest gullable dick around fairdinkum..Its not what im doing thats giving me the problems with the suspension.See being a pensioner i always go for the cheapest options if i have to buy anything otherwise i just make it myself..
So i went out today & looked at the front springs again & the clamps that i bent over i loosened just to be sure cause Korg sugested they maybe tight..didnt do anything..

Heres the pic of the front drive shaft i said about.. I think its been instaled the wrong way round to ..I always fit them with the shortest end to the Transfercase ..Easy fix tho..

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OK now here some pics i took of the front spring shackles on all 3 of me landys..

this is the wagon

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This is the green one

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this is Harry

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Notice they are all the same straight up & down..Now the green one has been on the road for 4 years this November & it has the same springs as the wagon & Harry.So im guess the only suspension i have on the green one is the TYRES cause those springs have'nt moved in 4 years..

Now these pics are of the rear springs that i put on the wagon just the other day & again they all have the same springs..Theres bugga all arch in them at all & there BRANDNEW..

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So again its my fault for buying the bloody same as what i put on the green one knowing that i hate the look of the sit of the car & all the trouble with them..So now that i'm down all the money for the suspension i just brought & fitted to the wagon I am now going to have to find some others as its obviously just the springs i've been using..



Ok anyone got any ideas what i should be getting or any advise guys IM LISTENING..

The green one still sits down at the rear after 4 years & it has MILITARY shackles fitted to the rear.GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRR

The way i feel now I"D swap all the bloody landys for anything at the moment ..

I cant get my money back for what i just brought & fitted as i have already fitted & had to bend the front clips on the front springs..So im back to square one & need all 4 springs ..WHAT DO I DO ????????...

Oh yeah the front shackles on Harry are leening forward at the bottom GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR

Also does anyone know if the 6 cyl civi prop shafts are the same size as the military 6 cyl ones..Cause when i fitted the ones in Harry there about an inch short so thats driving me insane aswell..

[Ausfree]

Maybe start a new thread outlining the problem Jase!!! Might get a better result than buried in here where only a few people see it.........just a thought, mate!!!:D:D

[banjo]

Maybe start a new thread outlining the problem Jase!!! Might get a better result than buried in here where only a few people see it.........just a thought, mate!!!:D:D

Did that when i had the trouble with the green one & no one answered it so gave up on it. :(

[jerryd]

Hi Banjo,
Have you not thought about getting your springs re tempered and set correctly rather than replacing them ??

I fitted new springs and I thought they were dreadful :eek: I then got the originals rebuilt and I must say they work perfect now and the vehicle sits level.I am going to get the rears done again though just to get an extra 25mm height for carrying a full load.

[101RRS]

What was wrong with the springs that required them to be replaced?

[banjo]

Hi Banjo,
Have you not thought about getting your springs re tempered and set correctly rather than replacing them ??

I fitted new springs and I thought they were dreadful :eek: I then got the originals rebuilt and I must say they work perfect now and the vehicle sits level.I am going to get the rears done again though just to get an extra 25mm height for carrying a full load.

Yeah i rang the only place near us & it was $250 each spring was cheaper to get new ones & i have the concern they will collaps quicker then usual..

[banjo]

What was wrong with the springs that required them to be replaced?

The front spring where completely stuffed the passenger side was packed with rubber on top & bottom & it had plastic inbetween all the leaves..
Back ones where just old & sagged..

Doesnt matter now both are in the markets for sale.Need to get a car the daughter can drive & we just cant spend the money on them weekly to get them done..Green one will go once i have a car for the daughter..

I will get some pics of the old springs today for use anyway..

[101RRS]

They seemed OK with no sagging - maybe needed a bush or two but I did not have a close look - the plastic between the leaves was most likely a lubricating strip that some springs have.

Good luck with the sale.

Garry

[banjo]

What are Parabolics worth about $1100 for the complete kit last time i looked when i was doing the green one...To have my springs reset is $1000..

These are the springs i took off..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1733.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1734.jpg

NO idea what to do anymore..

[chazza]

Those springs look to be in pretty good order, even considering the broken leaves. If they were mine I would strip them and sand them and grind down the wear steps and reassemble with grease or oil.

They can be made more flexible by discarding some leaves - perhaps the broken ones!

If they don't have enough set then they are worth having hot-reset. PM Isuzurover for advice,

Cheers Charlie

[Wolfman_TWP]

That problem you had/have with the U-Bolts being too short. Is due to your front diff housing being a military one. (Noticed that from your pic) As I just had the same problem with mine (Just installed Para's in my S3 109). The passenger side ones were fine, but drivers side ones were too short. Found out later on that the ones I had for the rear springs fit perfectly. Usually the ones that get supplied with the spring sets, get supplied with U-Bolts for the civvy diff housings. So when one has a military diff housing, you need longer U-bolts on one side or the other..

Wolf

[banjo]

That problem you had/have with the U-Bolts being too short. Is due to your front diff housing being a military one. (Noticed that from your pic) As I just had the same problem with mine (Just installed Para's in my S3 109). The passenger side ones were fine, but drivers side ones were too short. Found out later on that the ones I had for the rear springs fit perfectly. Usually the ones that get supplied with the spring sets, get supplied with U-Bolts for the civvy diff housings. So when one has a military diff housing, you need longer U-bolts on one side or the other..

Wolf

Hi Wolf yeah i new mine was is a military diff , i ment there the wrong U bolts cause they where told it was a military diff when got the U bolts. They just dont seem to listen & happy to give sell you what ever they think will be ok..Actualy i dont think any of my landys have ever had a civvy diff..

Im just waiting to hear back from FWD Motors about Paras .I only emailed them yesdy so hopefuly i'll hear back soon enough.. I read on the RM site they sell the 2 leaf fronts for all MODELS but i want the 4 leafs for the rear :) ...Can i ask how much they cost you ????

[Wolfman_TWP]

I got my parabolic spring set locally. They were around $800. Next time i will get RM paras. I hear they are better quality.

[JDNSW]

...Actualy i dont think any of my landys have ever had a civvy diff..
........

Like you, almost all the Series Landrovers I have ever owned except for Series 1 & 2 have had the reinforced front axle, and most the reinforced rear axle. I don't think the distinction is civil/military - the reinforced front axle housing, I believe, was optional with the Series 2 and became standard with the 2a, although as with everything else, it is quite possible that the axle without reinforcing may have been fitted much later to some vehicles, especially 88s. The rear one I think was reinforced on all Series 2 onward 109s. And neither was ever specifically military.

John

[banjo]

Ok well heres a little bit of progress while i'm waiting waiting for our tax to come back so i can get the parabolics, good price on em to $1230 all up all the springs U bolts & all shocks & axle straps..Plus gotta get tyres for it aswell , just going to use retreads for now..

I fixed the rear of the roof as i found 2 holes & the hoodlining was wet & the under felt stuff was soaked..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/1119.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/1120.jpg

Got bored so thought i wonder if it is possable to polish a turd well i can tell ya it is possable :D..


First three pics are of before

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/389.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/390.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/391.jpg

Well these are the AFTER pics

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/392.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/393.jpg

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See ya can polish a turd after all ..

[Landy Smurf]

that worked quite well. you are truly the turd master

[Ausfree]

Hey Jase, somebody pinched the "LandRover" badge off the back!!!:twisted::p

[juddy]

Being one of the last 2a. Has it got the full synchromesh gear box, ?.

[juddy]

HHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Freakin series landrovers i tell ya a toyota or nissan is starting to look good ..

Put the front suspension in today .. What a cock up i tell ya..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/340.jpg

Got the Ubolts yesdy for the front Now there in..It doesnt look very safe to me..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/341.jpg

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Now to the springs even with the V8 in it they didnt move at all when i droped it back on the ground , I even jacked it up a few times to drop it quick & bounce the ****box..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/345.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/346.jpg

These are the shackles when i put it back on the ground & bounced it ..& NO THERE NOT TIGHTENED YET ALL STILL LOOSE..

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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/348.jpg

Drive shaft is at full stretch ..

I seem to have lost that pic GGGGGGRRRRRRR

The car now , you can see it sits high at the front..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/349.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/350.jpg

The bloody shocks wouldnt even stretch to reach.Will have to jack up each side & put em on & will have to do the same when i get some longer Ubolts..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/351.jpg

I seriously think its time to change my suplyier they are starting to get so bad with parts its not funny.Karen went upto them yesdy to pick up the springs & the new guy spoke & treated her like a peace of **** then she had to go back to get the Ubolts later ....NOT ****ING HAPPY JAN.


The engine & gearbox is looking like a good swap into Harry at this point..Usualy Karen helps work on the cars as we do it together but she doesnt anymore & im getting real sic of doing everything meself so a toyota or nissan would suit me right now..



I have read your rebuild with great interest, as for I'll fitting parts this is getting very normal these days, I am told front genuine u bolts are like hens teeth, yes you can not so good britpart ones but there wrong fitment.

[banjo]

Being one of the last 2a. Has it got the full synchromesh gear box, ?.
Yep sure is its a nissan 5 speed cabstar gearbox..

[jerryd]

Yep sure is its a nissan 5 speed cabstar gearbox..

With no oil leaks ??? :angel:

[banjo]

With no oil leaks ??? :angel:

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:But its still in a landy so it has to leak ..:D

[banjo]

Being one of the last 2a. Has it got the full synchromesh gear box, ?.

Na even the last of the 2a still had the non synchromesh in 1st & 2nd..:(But they are stronger then the series 3 box still..

[banjo]

Still have to polish the roof on the wagon & i should polish the green one to cause it looks bad..

[banjo]

I havent done much at all to the wagon.Cleaned all the rear roof as it was all wet.Found 2 holes so fixed & painted it..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/1119.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/1120.jpg

[banjo]

Ok a small update , I ordered & paid for my RM parabolics today & the shocks Plus a RM grill..I dont understand why people say they are so dear .I got the 4 leaf rears & 2 leaf fronts all 4 procomp shocks & straps plus the grill for $1300 there going to freight it for free but i am only an hour down the road from them..

When we take the springs & shocks back that i put on it we will get a clutch for harry & the power steering box for the wagon..YAY

I started to pull some stuff off the wagon today ready for when i put the steering on after the suspension is done..
Took the bullbar off after all the wiring for the lights was taken out..


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1582.jpg

Then found this.:(:(

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Hoping that when i get them all cleaned out that i will only have to weld a new end cap on them..Jamed a screwdriver in as hard as i could but could'nt find any holes around them except the obvious front there so heres hoping ..

And the home made grill is off..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1587.jpg


Also finished painting the badge the other day so i put it back on..Looks worth more then the car :p

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1588.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1589.jpg

Super crap autos has there SAAS seats on sale again so i'll go get some tomorrow or friday that way i dont have to use the ones i got for Harry..Although they are the same..

[Ausfree]

By the looks of that rust, Banj, you might have to replace the whole assembly....is that the dumb irons???:confused:

[banjo]

By the looks of that rust, Banj, you might have to replace the whole assembly....is that the dumb irons???:confused:

Yep there the dumb irons & if i have to replace them your gunna hear me & learn some new swear words from your place..Had to replace the ones on the green one & i'm not to keen to have to do it again as everything has to be spot on..

[jerryd]

Nice to see you back at work on the vehicles ;) Hopefully that rust stops at the front section.

Can we have another detailed "power steering" install please ? Just met a couple from england who had put a "defender power steering" set up in his series II..........along with a 300tdi :)

[banjo]

Nice to see you back at work on the vehicles ;) Hopefully that rust stops at the front section.

Can we have another detailed "power steering" install please ? Just met a couple from england who had put a "defender power steering" set up in his series II..........along with a 300tdi :)

I guess i could do that again..I looked at using landy bits for the power steering but there was a lot more work involved & it was so much more expensive using landy bits , Thats why i ended up going with the toyota box.But yes i'll put up picks again..Never done one with the engine in place so should be interesting..

[Ausfree]

Yep there the dumb irons & if i have to replace them your gunna hear me & learn some new swear words from your place..Had to replace the ones on the green one & i'm not to keen to have to do it again as everything has to be spot on..
Hey, Jase, I have a "LandRover World" magazine that shows you how to replace Dumb Irons!!:angel::p[bigwhistle]

[banjo]

Hey, Jase, I have a "LandRover World" magazine that shows you how to replace Dumb Irons!!:angel::p[bigwhistle]


:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::BigCry::BigCry::BigCry ::BigCry:

[banjo]

Well i got my Parabolic springs.Got them yesdy karen had to pick em up outside of Maitland..Would i buy anything off DUNGOG MOTORS again i highly doubt it Nothing bit arrogant ******..
I got the run around with them & still had issues today when fitting them..BUT there on & have some issues with the rears..

When we got them home

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1438.jpg

The first issue ..Wrong center bolts had to go buy new ones..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1439.jpg

These pics are of the car with them in..BLOODY HIGH IN THE REAR..

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This is all the shackles after fiiting the parabolics..THE FRONT are done up & yes i did them up AFTER i put it back on the ground..

FRONTS
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1445.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1446.jpg

There is movement in the shackles when ya jump on the front of the car plus the bullbar has to go on again. But i am happy with the fronts VERY Happy..

REARS
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1447.jpg

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Front shocks. There procomp 9000

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1449.jpg

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Are'nt they PRETTY

Front springs

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1452.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1453.jpg

Now the fun bit & the issues i have..& NO the rear springs ARE NOT DONE UP or have the shocks fitted..

I brought the 4 leaf rears as thats what they recoment on the RM site as i have the 5 door wagon with the tropical roof..I am VERY happy with the hight BUT it dont work .

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1454.jpg

BUT this Happend, The drive shaft is hitting the loop it goes threw & i can't turn it even with the handbrake OFF & its outa GEAR..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1455.jpg...

So i realy don't know what to do as i only followed what they said on the rocky mountain site..
The spare wheel & carrier still has to go on the back to.

[banjo]

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Rocky Mountain Parabolic Springs are manufactured to ISO 9002 standards. These rugged springs are produced on state of the art equipment and have advanced design features perfected over many years of supplying parabolic springs to leading truck manufacturers. The individual spring leaves are tapered, heat treated, and stress peened under load for increased strength. Bending stresses in the material are evenly distributed along the length of the leaf. There is generous contact area on all wear points, and stresses caused by drilling are minimized by having the guide straps positioned near the end of the leaves. The clamp area under the axles is kept absolutely flat to prevent preload. Spring bushings are a full 1¼ inches diameter for greater flexibility and this increased curvature reduces stress in the spring eyes. Springs are supplied in pairs and packaged with correct 'U' bolts, nuts and washers needed to complete the installation.
Fitting 'Rocky Mountain' parabolic springs will raise the loaded ride height of your Land Rover by about one inch when compared to stock springs.
The use of extended shackles to raise the ride height further may create stability, and drive line problems and is not recommended. Where extended shackles are used (as in military Land Rovers) the extended axle buffer mounting must be retained to prevent overstressing the springs in maximum compression.
PARABOLIC SPRINGS will make a very significant improvement to your Land Rover and are probably the greatest single modification worth making to enhance enjoyment of the truck for you and your passengers.
Please take a moment to read the notes explaining the advantages and disadvantages of each of the spring sets in our range. If you have any further questions please contact us directly.
Please note that with improved ride and articulation there comes increased sensitivity to loading.

Front Springs 73588: All Purpose (Two Leaf) $222.00 USD/PAIR


73588 are front springs used on all models. These springs have two parabolic leaves with a military wrap on the second leaf. Like all Rocky Mountain springs they are supplied with a matching set of 'U' bolts designed to fit the Rover axle.


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20 kg (pair)

The length of these springs is carefully controlled to allow the shackles exactly the right amount of slant aft maximizing the range of travel on the spring in both directions.

Rear Springs 73589: Two Leaf $244.00 USD/PAIR


73589 are medium duty rear springs with two parabolic leaves, used on '86' and '88' models where softer ride and maximum axle articulation are desired. If you use your '86' or '88' with two adults and their gear, use these springs. Clips positioned at the eyes prevent leaf distortion at maximum articluation. An additional pad under the lower leaf reinforces the assembly. These springs do not preclude you carrying heavier loads but you have to accept that the rear of the truck will deflect more when such loads are carried.


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25 kg (pair)

CAUTION:Two leaf rears may increase body sway if you have a Safari roof or use a roof rack as a result of the the higher center of gravity. You should concider three leaf rears for these applications and do not use these springs if you use your Land Rover for towing a heavy trailer.

Rear Springs 73590: Three Leaf $333.00 USD/PAIR

73590 are standard duty three leaf parabolic springs. If you often load your '86' or '88' to the maximum rated load use these springs. Also use 73590 on stock '107' and '109' utility models and pickups with factory hard tops, pickup cabs, and soft tops.


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38 kg (pair)

On '86' and '88' models the 73590 spring is the correct choice if you have a Safari roof, use a roof rack, or tow a heavy trailer.
If your standard '109' has a heavy custom camper conversion or other heavy modification to the load area you may require a 73591 fourth leaf spring addition.

Rear Springs 73591: Fourth Leaf $150.00 USD/PAIR


73591 are a heavy duty fourth leaf rear spring to be added to the 73590 used on '107' and '109' models for service where heavy loading is normal. These springs are usually fitted to five door "Safari" models. If you plan an expedition or have fitted a camper conversion on your regular '109' use these springs.


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46 kg (pair)


CAUTION:If these springs are fitted to a lighter '109' such as a canvas topped or pickup cab model, the 73591 springs can raise the unloaded bed height to the extent that modifications to the shock absorber mountings will be needed.
Parabolic springs may not be the best choice on the rear of a Land Rover such as a canvas topped or truck cab model if you want to load the truck to it's maximum rated capacity. The range or loads applied extends and compresses the supple Parabolic spring beyond the range of any shock absorber that can be fitted to the normal shock absorber mountings.
Address:
Rocky Mountain Products
2474 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC Canada, V7V 1L1

Telephone: (604) 913-7910

Email: rmhighroad@gmail.com (rmhighroad@gmail.com)

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[banjo]

I did what it says in red thats what i followed 5 DOOR SAFARI WAGON..

Maybe i should change them for the 3 leafs set.. But it will be towing the camper & the fridge will be in the back permantly eventualy plus the sparewheel on the back..

[banjo]

I just went out & looked to double check the rear springs.& i dont think i can just take out the bottom spring off or out that they fitted , I guess its the heavy duty one.& the next leaf does'nt have a hole in it to take the clamps if i took the bottom one off which has the clamps on it..If i need the 3 leaf set i guess i'll have to swap these for the 3s..ANY IDEAS GUYS..

[Ausfree]

Wow, I would have thought that a 4x4 spare parts supply Co. in an isolated area would have been more co-operative, JASE.:confused:

[banjo]

Well had a better look at the rear spring today in better light & yes there is a pin in the third leaf so can make back to a 3 leaf set..

But have had another look on the Rocky Mountain site again & it says the 4 LEAF sets are usualy fitted to the 5 door..

Rear Springs 73591: Fourth Leaf $150.00 USD/PAIR



73591 are a heavy duty fourth leaf rear spring to be added to the 73590 used on '107' and '109' models for service where heavy loading is normal. These springs are usually fitted to five door "Safari" models. If you plan an expedition or have fitted a camper conversion on your regular '109' use these springs.



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1410.jpg
46 kg (pair)




CAUTION:If these springs are fitted to a lighter '109' such as a canvas topped or pickup cab model, the 73591 springs can raise the unloaded bed height to the extent that modifications to the shock absorber mountings will be needed.
Parabolic springs may not be the best choice on the rear of a Land Rover such as a canvas topped or truck cab model if you want to load the truck to it's maximum rated capacity. The range or loads applied extends and compresses the supple Parabolic spring beyond the range of any shock absorber that can be fitted to the normal shock absorber mountings.

So what is the differance between a 5 DOOR SAFARI model & my 5 door.?????

I recon i'm going to have to load it up heaps just to get the driveshaft off the loop so it can be driven..

[banjo]

Well went out & pulled the springs out again. Took the 4th heavy duty leaf out so they are now only 3 leaf set..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1378.jpg

With the 3 leaf set in..

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This is the driveshaft after fitting them.

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This is the one on the green one.

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I got Karen & the kids to jump in the back but didnt seem to make much differance..

I jumped up & down on the tow hitch.
LOOK movement

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Its still rubbing heavy on it. I have'nt put the shocks on yet incase i have to take em out again , Bloody hope not tho..

Theres nothing in the back of the wagon at all has the 2 side seats in but no bottom seat cushions..Thats it.No Jack sparewheel or wheel brace NOTHING.

[banjo]

Oh yeah did'nt make much if any differance to the hight..Still higher at rear which i dont mind , that way wen we go away & its loaded & towing the camper it mite sit level which is what i want , not dragging its bum cause its loaded..

[chazza]

It might settle down a bit Jason once it is driven and the springs find their level; put a decent load in it so that the prop shaft clears the chassis, such as full sand-bags,

Cheers Charlie

[banjo]

It might settle down a bit Jason once it is driven and the springs find their level; put a decent load in it so that the prop shaft clears the chassis, such as full sand-bags,

Cheers Charlie

:( i cant drive it yet its not registered :(:(:(:( But i can find some stuff to load it with..

PLZ dont tell me i should of left the 4th heavy duty spring in there..

[isuzutoo-eh]

Rear Springs 73591: Fourth Leaf $150.00 USD/PAIR


73591 are a heavy duty fourth leaf rear spring to be added to the 73590 used on '107' and '109' models for service where heavy loading is normal. These springs are usually fitted to five door "Safari" models. If you plan an expedition or have fitted a camper conversion on your regular '109' use these springs.


By my way of reading you have selected springs that are suited for a heavily loaded 5 door wagon, not just any old 5 door wagon.


Heavily loaded isn't a fridge and spare wheel and 150kg of drawbar weight.
Put 500kg+ in the back and let it settle.
I think you have chosen the wrong springs...

[banjo]

By my way of reading you have selected springs that are suited for a heavily loaded 5 door wagon, not just any old 5 door wagon.


Heavily loaded isn't a fridge and spare wheel and 150kg of drawbar weight.
Put 500kg+ in the back and let it settle.
I think you have chosen the wrong springs...

I took the 4th leaf out now so there just the standard 3 leaf set ..So you recon the 3 is all that i'll need ..The 4 leaf set is just the standard 3 leaf set with the 4th leaf added to it..Now i only have the 3 leafs in..:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[isuzutoo-eh]

I took the 4th leaf out now so there just the standard 3 leaf set ..So you recon the 3 is all that i'll need ..The 4 leaf set is just the standard 3 leaf set with the 4th leaf added to it..Now i only have the 3 leafs in..:confused::confused::confused::confused:

I don't know if the specs of the three leaf paras are the same as four leaf paras minus a leaf, they could be a very different animal. They could have a different curve.
You would have to enquire with the manufacturer if the four leaf set is simply a three leaf set with an extra leaf.

[banjo]

I don't know if the specs of the three leaf paras are the same as four leaf paras minus a leaf, they could be a very different animal. They could have a different curve.
You would have to enquire with the manufacturer if the four leaf set is simply a three leaf set with an extra leaf.

Yeah the 4 leaf set is just the 3 leaf set with the added 4th in it..They only do the 2 leaf or 3 leaf & the 4 leaf pach is just the 3 leaf pack with the heavy duty leaf added to it..I do know that much..

[wpalmo]

Hi Banjo,

I have just had a look through your thread and saw that you did fit a new set of conventional leaf springs to your wagon a few pages back. Why did you replace with parabolics? I couldn't find where a bouts in the thread you made the decision to take the conventional new set out or why you did it. Hope you can get the Rocky Mountain Para's working well.

Regards Warrick.

[banjo]

Hi Banjo,

I have just had a look through your thread and saw that you did fit a new set of conventional leaf springs to your wagon a few pages back. Why did you replace with parabolics? I couldn't find where a bouts in the thread you made the decision to take the conventional new set out or why you did it. Hope you can get the Rocky Mountain Para's working well.

Regards Warrick.

Yeah the spring i brought where the same as what i have on the green one & Harry..The green ones front shackles are vertical still after 4 years on the road the springs are set with way to much arch & the rears you have to use military shackles but the springs still sag to the point they are lower then the front with NO load in or on the car..There crap.MAX TRAX never use them.Yep sorted out what to do with the parabolics & driveshaft hitting..

[jerryd]

Have you cut the bottom of the loop out ??

[banjo]

Have you cut the bottom of the loop out ??

As these spring give a much greater travel up & down in articulation i will be cutting the bottom so it gives room at full tilt..Just remember any metal thats been cut out must be replaced to make engineer happy..

[banjo]

Ok not much to report..
Got the new clutch for Harry

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/796.jpg

Now with the driveshaft loop i'll be cutting the bottom off & putting another bit in but on an angle..This is'nt the bit but it shows what i mean.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/797.jpg




https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/798.jpg

Rear shocks are in.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/799.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/800.jpg

I think i'll cut the very bottom off the rear shocks. Theres just a poofteenth between them & the springs..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/801.jpg

A couple of new toys.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/802.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/803.jpg

[banjo]

Ok ive done a little bit..Old seats are out new seats are in..Not bolted in yet but in anyway..

There just sitting there

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/115.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/116.jpg

Got the old runner Brackets off & moded them to suit these seats..

I love the new welder

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/117.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/118.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/119.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/120.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/121.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/122.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/123.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/124.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/125.jpg

Put some shade shelter up , Screwed this one to the shed..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/126.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/127.jpg

[banjo]

OK this is what i did yesterday & today .

Rock sliders

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/96.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/97.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/98.jpg


OK so remember when i put the suspension in & the rear DRIVESHAFT was hitting the loop..Well not now its all sorted & fixed..Heres the pics & theres a few as i could'nt realy get a very good pic . Pretty much self explanatry.. BUT theres lots of room now & its not lower then standard..

Attacked it with the grinder


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/99.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/100.jpg

Files to clean it up.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/101.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/102.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/103.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/104.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/105.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/106.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/107.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/108.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/109.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/110.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/111.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/112.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/113.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/114.jpg

[Ausfree]

Been a busy boy there, Jase!!!:D

[Landy Smurf]

were you using gas or gasless wire on the mig?
i like the new seats, where did you get them from?
so when is it getting registered :)

[banjo]

were you using gas or gasless wire on the mig?
i like the new seats, where did you get them from?
so when is it getting registered :)

Na just gasless wire as i have a heap of it so may aswell use it up..

Seats are from super cheap $300 the pair..

Still have to do the power steering & put the duel circit brakes on & some wheels & tyres then engineer it all & then rego..

[Ausfree]

Sounds all too easy, Jase!!!!!:twisted::p