Opinions of rear air in D4

[Banjo_pluker]

The new dealer in my local town states he may be able to get a new D4 with rear diff but no rear A/C under the bonus dealer plan that is running for the month of August. Car must be delivered by end August. All this for mid $50,000 with our trades.

The only car he has coming has the above specs. As they are a new dealer they have no floor stock.

I have 3 kids that will sit in the back a lot of the time. I am worried about the no air option in the rear.

Can anyone comment weather or not I may be disappointed without rear air or is the A/C good enough. I have never had a car with rear air but this car seems large to be pushing the air back all the time.

[haydent]

do you mean you will be sitting them in the back boot 6 & 7 seats ?

[Banjo_pluker]

Sorry no they will spend most of their time in the second row of seats, very rarely will we have someone in the 3rd row of seats

[Disco4SE]

Sorry no they will spend most of their time in the second row of seats, very rarely will we have someone in the 3rd row of seats
Hi Banjo Plucker ,
A lot of people think that the rear air option is mainly for the 3rd row passengers, whereas I find it to be a must for the 2nd row passengers. They have their own controls and settings, as there is a second air conditioning unit.
The driver also has the option to control the rear air from the front.
Would not do without it.

Cheers , Craig

[PKD4]

I must admit I agree with Craig. I find that the rear air is great and my second row passengers enjoy the difference it as well. While I only have 2 kids, we are carrying extra relatives or friends kids enough to find that the third row is in use regularly.

I was not that fussed about rear air but ended up buying a demo with it. Now, I would say it would be among the first options I would add if purchasing again.

(Mind you - I have not had a D3/D4 without rear air so I have nothing to compare it to)

Pat

[Basil135]

Having a D2 without rear air, and the short people in the second row all the time, and on occasion in the 3rd row, I know they are constantly asking for me to turn the ac up.

This being the case, when I order the new car, it will certainly have rear air, even if it is just for a little bit of peace & quiet. :cool:

[mowog]

My adult children always demand control with our rear air. Its certainly a good thing.

[eddomak]

My D4 does not have rear air, and I have 3 young kids in the 2nd row. It's not really a problem for them. I have sat in the back row for over an hour in hot weather and it is OK and I certainly wasn't uncomfortable in any way.

I have sat in a Volvo XC90 with rear air for a 10 hour trip and rear air certainly helps.

So for me I wouldn't see it as essential, but I think it is nice. Also the child that sits in the middle of the 2nd row tends to get a bit more blasted by the central vents than the rest of the kids so I can imagine that having the extra vents etc would give a more even "all around" effect when getting to temperature.

[AnD3rew]

I have rear air in my D3 and find it to be very useful, I certainly wouldn't want to send much time in the 3rdrow without it.

[scarry]

The dealer made a mistake with ours,it was found to have rear air after the deal was done,so it became a no cost option..:)

We didn't want it as the kids have left us.

I do believe it works well for rear passengers,and also will help in resale.

[Tombie]

I have it and wouldnt be without it.

It keeps the rear passengers (2nd row - we've never even raised the 3rd row) and the dogs in the back happy.

In hot weather, it also quickly brings the entire vehicle down to comfortable in a much shorter period of time.

Personally wouldnt be without it.

[Tombie]

Consider flying to another dealer and driving home :cool:

I drove 4 hours to Adelaide, Flight to Melbourne, Ride in the Queens Range Rover to MLR ;) then picked up the D4, sat around chatting with friends for a couple of hours and then drove 15 hours home...

Got out of the vehicle tired, but amazingly comfortable.

There are ways to get exactly what you're looking for :)

[scarry]

Consider flying to another dealer and driving home :cool:

I drove 4 hours to Adelaide, Flight to Melbourne, Ride in the Queens Range Rover to MLR ;) then picked up the D4, sat around chatting with friends for a couple of hours and then drove 15 hours home...

Got out of the vehicle tired, but amazingly comfortable.

There are ways to get exactly what you're looking for :)


X2

Couldn't believe how much more helpful they were than the one i had dealt with for yrs.

And price,well i won't go there:)

But my return trip was a bit longer,but very enjoyable.

[Drafrete]

Hi, I have had a D3 and D4 with rear air and I would describe it as really useful without being essential. In the southern half of Australia I suspect that you can get away without it for pretty much all of the year. I have found it best in really hot days with a full car when the front A/C struggles to cool the whole car down.

It is also useful if you have an engels in the car and need to combat both the radiant heat and the heat from the fridge on a hot day.

[discotwinturbo]

I had rear air on my previous car.....nice to have.

I wanted the diff lock on the D4.....so not an option for rear air. Stupid really.

Kids have had no issues even in 45 degrees up north. Decent vents with adjustable airflow, and a car that cools extremely fast.

I prefer what I perceive the better resale with the rear diff as opposed to rear air.

Brett....

[sniegy]

I wanted the diff lock on the D4.....so not an option for rear air. Stupid really.

Brett....
Really??

I have rear A/C & an e-Diff!

I will agree tho' if in Southern states you may be ok, but if you are more North, the Disco does have big windows. ;)

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[Basil135]

I had rear air on my previous car.....nice to have.

I wanted the diff lock on the D4.....so not an option for rear air. Stupid really.

Kids have had no issues even in 45 degrees up north. Decent vents with adjustable airflow, and a car that cools extremely fast.

I prefer what I perceive the better resale with the rear diff as opposed to rear air.

Brett....

Just a quick question to clear something up for me...

When you say, "diff lock" are you referring to the E-diff?

Cause, I know someone who has both rear air and the E-diff...

Unless you are talking about somthing else that I dont know about... :(

[discotwinturbo]

Really??

I have rear A/C & an e-Diff!

I will agree tho' if in Southern states you may be ok, but if you are more North, the Disco does have big windows. ;)

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Seems to be the same thing with southerns in Perth....I could not have reversing camera without sat NAV.....I could not have ediff with rear air.

The disco did not have sport mode.

Seems that I have been led astray by this dealer at least 3 times when I ordered by D4. Might have to head over the MLR next time for my D5!

I guess southerns don't really know what they are talking about....and they only sell LR so you wonder how hard it could be.

But I do have NAV in the touchscreen, but it does not work, and I ordered it without NAV.

Brett...

[sniegy]

Whenever you are in the area drop in & will make you a cuppa ;)

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[chuck]

I ended up compromising on a D4 with rear air, high ice & reverse camera rather than travelling to a country dealer for a D4 with ediff.

Advice I received was that in Melbourne the majority of purchasers want the options packaged on my vehicle rather than ediff. I was also advised that the rear camera option may become more important due to the possibility of them becoming mandatory

If I had ordered a vehicle the same as mine but with ediff I was looking at nearly $10k more and 4 month wait.

Having said that I would have liked an ediff but will eventually fit a winch to compensate.

The other factor was that it as purchased from a dealer I know & trust.

Cheers

[micsus]

Hi, we have a d4 with rear air and find it a must for the kids when they sit in the third row seats. If you are only using the second row seats then standard air would be ok
Cheers

[Tombie]

I made a phone call to Sniegy...

It went something like this:

"G'day Pete, I want a D4, Leather, eDiff, Rear Air, Xenons.... What have you got?"

Conversation ended with "I'll take it... Please get it tinted, chuck in some floor mats and throw on some mud flaps, be there Friday :cool: "

And the rest as they say is history...

I'm happy to always return to MLR after such exceptional service from Sniegy and his work mates...

[Desert Traveller]

I have a D3 with both. Rear air is for the dogs. The e-diff is much in demand in 2nd hand vehicles, and it is such a cheap option.

[Redback]

Hi Banjo Plucker ,
A lot of people think that the rear air option is mainly for the 3rd row passengers, whereas I find it to be a must for the 2nd row passengers. They have their own controls and settings, as there is a second air conditioning unit.
The driver also has the option to control the rear air from the front.
Would not do without it.

Cheers , Craig

Hi Graig, our D4 has rear air, people in the second row seats don't seem to be able to operate/adjust it from the controls in the back, is there a trick too it.

To answer the OP, rear air cools the car down faster, it great on really hot days.

Baz.

[Disco4SE]

Hi Baz,
There is a button with 'R AUTO' on it to the bottom left of the centre 'AUTO AC' dial / button. Once this button is pressed, if the bottom light is on, the rear passengers have control and when the top light is showing, the front passengers have control.
I'm pretty sure that is how it works. It is in the handbook if you want to check.

Cheers, Craig

[gotaflat]

Hi Graig, our D4 has rear air, people in the second row seats don't seem to be able to operate/adjust it from the controls in the back, is there a trick too it.

To answer the OP, rear air cools the car down faster, it great on really hot days.

Baz.

Push the rear air button a second time (in the front). You will see the light indicating the rear air is on - go off and a second light come on just slightly lower down (but almost in the same place). You can then control from the rear.

The first light/position is 'auto' and rear air operates automatically with the temp set/controlled by the driver and front passenger.

The second place as described. Rear passenger Can control from the rear air and the driver and front passenger have their own control.

[SBD4]

Hi Baz,
There is a button with 'R AUTO' on it to the bottom left of the centre 'AUTO AC' dial / button. Once this button is pressed, if the bottom light is on, the rear passengers have control and when the top light is showing, the front passengers have control.
I'm pretty sure that is how it works. It is in the handbook if you want to check.

Cheers, Craig

Craig I believe it is the other way around. Baz, I figure a picture might make it easier:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/sbd4-albums-d4-picture3680-d4acrearcontrol.jpg

Also, here's the topix link to the climate control section of the manual - might save you a trip to the car:)
http://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/service/archive/62606/GTR_climatecontrol.pdf

[Redback]

Thanks guys, I'll try that this arvo:BigThumb:

We looked in the manual, couldn't find anything on the operation of it from the back seats.

Baz.

[SBD4]

Baz, the topix link above includes the instructions on how to use the rear controls (page 112).

[Redback]

Baz, the topix link above includes the instructions on how to use the rear controls (page 112).

Great I'll have to wait till I get home to look at it, work blocks it:(

[Disco4SE]

Landrover should have put a 'R' and an 'F' on the button......or is that too easy??
I always get that one confused ;)

Cheers, Craig

[Stuart02]

You can turn the rear air off, too, using those buttons.
Occasionally I find it works too well - if the sun's thru the front we can inadvertently turn the little one into an icecube!

[Banjo_pluker]

Thank you all for clarifying my thoughts, I just harped on about it to the dealer and needed to check to make sure I wasn't being too fussy.

I agree with your comments Tombie- re trying another dealer, I think I may wait a little longer and get the D4 in a few years when I can afford everything that I want rather than rear air.

i did fall in love with it when I drove it however:)