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digger
6th September 2012, 11:51 AM
Does anyone have a "blueprint" of the series 1 (80") front guards?
I have a local bloke interested in making them but obviously it will be easier
to get a quote if I can produce a plan, blueprint or measurements..
Same for the rear tub sides/rear (I have the LRO article about making them from the recent mag)
anyone able to help with a 'layout' and measurements of these or a point in the direction from which they can be obtained I really appreciate it.
(would be made from aluminium and spot welded where appropriate etc)
Cheers
wrinklearthur
6th September 2012, 12:21 PM
Does anyone have a "blueprint" of the series 1 (80") front guards?
I have a local bloke interested in making them but obviously it will be easier
to get a quote if I can produce a plan, blueprint or measurements..
Same for the rear tub sides/rear (I have the LRO article about making them from the recent mag)
anyone able to help with a 'layout' and measurements of these or a point in the direction from which they can be obtained I really appreciate it.
(would be made from aluminium and spot welded where appropriate etc 
Wasn't there a complete set of Land Rover blue prints made and set out from the UK, when Australia started building and assembling? 
I wonder what has become of those?
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russellrovers
6th September 2012, 12:53 PM
Does anyone have a "blueprint" of the series 1 (80") front guards?
I have a local bloke interested in making them but obviously it will be easier
to get a quote if I can produce a plan, blueprint or measurements..
Same for the rear tub sides/rear (I have the LRO article about making them from the recent mag)
anyone able to help with a 'layout' and measurements of these or a point in the direction from which they can be obtained I really appreciate it.
(would be made from aluminium and spot welded where appropriate etc)
Cheers hi digger
russellrovers
6th September 2012, 01:00 PM
Does anyone have a "blueprint" of the series 1 (80") front guards?
I have a local bloke interested in making them but obviously it will be easier
to get a quote if I can produce a plan, blueprint or measurements..
Same for the rear tub sides/rear (I have the LRO article about making them from the recent mag)
anyone able to help with a 'layout' and measurements of these or a point in the direction from which they can be obtained I really appreciate it.
(would be made from aluminium and spot welded where appropriate etc)
Cheers hi digger   wadsworth panels   make good repros  i have aset here  that somebody cut a light in the front panel       as straight as you will get  jim
Lotz-A-Landies
6th September 2012, 01:26 PM
Hi Digger
I want to concur with Jim about Wadsworth panels.  Keith makes Series ones better than Land Rover made them in the 1940's and 1950s :o  
Personally I have found that getting a pair of the outer panels sent out is cost effective as they come boxed not much bigger than a single panel.  The cost of getting inners and outers is expensive because of the lost space.
Trying to press the complex curves of the outer panels would not be cost effective, however folding up the inner panels, doors and tub would be worthwhile.  Allan H in Canberra has made a business of it for the 80", but won't do it in Winter because of the cold.
Diana
Landy Smurf
6th September 2012, 02:26 PM
how much would a tub cost roughly?
zulu Delta 534
8th September 2012, 10:47 AM
The outer skin on a series rover mudguard stayed the same from the early 80"s through to the end of the 86" production run (give or take a hole or two!). 
That should broaden the search considerably.:) 
When the 88"s came along then they added two inches to the front guards. 
The tops and inners do vary though.
Regards
Glen
Lotz-A-Landies
8th September 2012, 10:52 AM
how much would a tub cost roughly?If you want one made roughly, you may as well go second hand! :D
The price for a tub here is more than Aussies seem to be prepared to pay, the ones that Allan has made usually go to the UK.  Doors are a different matter.
series1buff
8th September 2012, 12:26 PM
Hi Digger
Trying to press the complex curves of the outer panels would not be cost effective, however folding up the inner panels, doors and tub would be worthwhile.  
Diana
Yes I agree .  Although with some thought and planning , I'd think it possible to fabricate the outer wing panels too , maybe you could TIG weld in that complex corner patch as a separate piece .
The 80 tub would have to be one of the easiest bodies to make at home ... Compared to a WW2 Jeep with its steel and many curvy bits , a 80 tub would be a doddle in the park as its almost totally flat . Having seen the gems made out at Geelong road , gives one some confidence we can do it as well !
Getting back to the question. To make templates , you use the old panel and flatten it out , you then use that flattened out panel to mark out the new panel and you have the exact size to cut out , the aircraft restorers use that method MIKE
digger
8th September 2012, 12:55 PM
I tried to get a website for wadsworth panels, well, he obviously doesnt need to get people via the web (a very unhappy experience!)
"panels made down geelong road" ????   Ke? do tell.
series1buff
8th September 2012, 09:33 PM
I tried to get a website for wadsworth panels, well, he obviously doesnt need to get people via the web (a very unhappy experience!)
"panels made down geelong road" ????   Ke? do tell.
Hi Digger 
Yes Mike B and his friend Ian , have manufactured a few 80 tubs and other bits like early 80 hoop stick sets . Made to a high standard . I think a forum member here has bought one of the tubs .
slug_burner
8th September 2012, 10:22 PM
to make the tub you just need the material, dimensions and a sheet metal bender that can take the dimensions required.  Can't recall if you need the spot welder.
Yes Mike B had the ability at Geelong road to do it but that location is now a set on units.
Landy Smurf
9th September 2012, 12:48 AM
i wonder how much the materials would cost i have never looked into it. i dont have the machine to make it anyway but i am interested in the material cost. has anyone on here made any panels?
series1buff
9th September 2012, 11:46 AM
Yes Mike B had the ability at Geelong road to do it but that location is now a set on units.
Really !  I was there about a year ago .
BETSY
16th September 2012, 08:05 PM
Hello, not sure if you already have your answer but if it is a 1953 then the guards are different to other years, these are spot welded together and have a park light section, I gave up and had mine repaired as I could not find any in Australia but could get them from the UK, 6 months waiting list, I think about $1000 each plus freight,
Malcolm
Lotz-A-Landies
16th September 2012, 08:11 PM
I tried to get a website for wadsworth panels, well, he obviously doesnt need to get people via the web (a very unhappy experience!)
"panels made down geelong road" ????   Ke? do tell.Wadsworth Panels is a pre-internet generation craftsman.
You may be better phoning direct or sending a PM to 260AC and ask Mike to act as 3rd party.
The contact is Keith Wadsworth, Halifax UK "Land Rover Series One replacement body panels - if web-site not working" contact Keith Wadsworth on 01422 822200
drifter
17th September 2012, 02:51 PM
...
 Allan H in Canberra has made a business of it for the 80", but won't do it in Winter because of the cold.
Diana
hehe - can't really blame him - there is no door to that shed! It gets a bit chilly... but, yes, I have seen his workshop and the various dies and bits he has made for the work - and, of course, I have seen the finished product on his 1948 S1...
Time wise, he tells me that, if he didn't have a job to go to, he could knock up a tub in a week - including spot-welding all the appropriate bits together.
wrinklearthur
19th May 2013, 06:00 PM
Why did I dragged this thread kicking and screaming back into the light of day?
I want to repair the fire wall and make a few other parts for my series one collection, using copies of the original blueprints.
Some time ago I did read that the collection of those blueprints were kept here in Australia, in turn were scanned onto a CD and then it was taken back to the UK.
What is the chance of obtaining a copy of that CD and does anyone know anything about it or is it all hush stuff?
.
russellrovers
19th May 2013, 06:31 PM
Why did I dragged this thread kicking and screaming back into the light of day?
I want to repair the fire wall and make a few other parts for my series one collection, using copies of the original blueprints.
Some time ago I did read that the collection of those blueprints were kept here in Australia, in turn were scanned onto a CD and then it was taken back to the UK.
What is the chance of obtaining a copy of that CD and does anyone know anything about it or is it all hush stuff?
.hi  arther  i have a set of as new guards with a 7 inch aperture for a wing head lamp easy fix to orignal  also top quality tubs jim
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