trannie double flush

[lukesky7]

Hi
was quoted around $2000 for a double flush by garage on a 2005 Disco 3 with about 80,000 - guy seemed to know his stuff. Is this a reasonable amount to pay?
Thanks in advance

[101RRS]

It is expensive but not that expensive.

Garry

[lukesky7]

thanks Garry, what is a reasonable price in your opinion?

[TerryO]

It sounds way expensive, I'll ask a private LR workshop I go to in the inner west how much for a double flush and a steel pan instead of the throw away plastic pan and let you know.

cheers,
Terry

[kero]

Give Graham Cooper Automotive a ring , on 0245779584

[lukesky7]

thanks - i tried getting hold of Ward at GC but he's flat out. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Fatso]

Got mine done in Perth full flush + steel pan and filter $1200 . dont let them tell you the trans lifegaurd fluid is $70-80 a ltr , you can get the fluid fron ZF transmitions themselves for $35 ltr , takes about 12/13 ltrs for full flush . Al

[Redback]

thanks - i tried getting hold of Ward at GC but he's flat out. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Give Roving Mechanical a call 0410 503500

Baz.

[Ean Austral]

With 80,000ks I would just order a drum of oil from ZF and change the oil a few times.. If you have ever changed Diff oil before its the same with the gearbox. The manual tells you to check it upto a certain temp, but using hawkeye the oil temp is within spec for the first 4-5 minutes of start-up..

The choice is yours, but I changed mine at 79,000ks and the pan and filter as well, but if had my time again I would just have changed the oil only.

Just my 2c worth.

Cheers Ean

[Graeme]

The choice is yours, but I changed mine at 79,000ks and the pan and filter as well, but if had my time again I would just have changed the oil only.It will soon be time to change the oil in my D4. I too am thinking of only doing the oil, not seeing any advantage of changing the pan and filter.

[Ean Austral]

It will soon be time to change the oil in my D4. I too am thinking of only doing the oil, not seeing any advantage of changing the pan and filter.

It takes about 3 goes to get the oil back to clean once you start if not doing a flush. You can remove a hose and pump oil out, but just dropping the sump and topping up will eventually work. I ordered 20 ltrs from ZF, but think for your kms would get away with 10 ltrs.

Cheers Ean

[RichardK]

As with Fatso I had mine properly flushed by the ZF agents in WA, Automac, cost me $1150 or thereabouts, I already had the metal sump.
The results were well worth it, transmission became as smooth as new an absolute pleasure to drive. I'll have it done every 50000K's now.

The idea behind the purge is to suck the oil out from the connection at the oil cooler and pump in the new oil at the same point thus replacing ALL the oil.
By emptying the sump and refilling it, all the old oil that is in the system is not replaced.

Well worth doing as a regular part of your maintenance

[lukesky7]

thanks for the advice - i thought it sounded pretty pricey. they did quote $80 a litre. i wonder if i could order the oil and parts myself and get them to do the labour - i dont think they would go for that - looks like i may be going back over the bridge to see Ward. would this be covered under extended warranty?

[jonesy63]

thanks for the advice - i thought it sounded pretty pricey. they did quote $80 a litre. i wonder if i could order the oil and parts myself and get them to do the labour - i dont think they would go for that - looks like i may be going back over the bridge to see Ward. would this be covered under extended warranty?

There is nothing stopping you from getting the oil, pan and filter directly from ZF. They're heaps cheaper than LR and a lot of shops (that will add markup on it).

Also don't discount going directly to auto transmission shops - these gearboxes are now very common - in a lot of Falcons, etc.

This is not a warranty item - so forget about getting reimbursed for the cost. LR only change the oil at 150,000km, IIRC.

[lukesky7]

thanks jonesy - will certainly look into this - do you happen to know part numbers etc for pan and filter?

[101RRS]

thanks jonesy - will certainly look into this - do you happen to know part numbers etc for pan and filter?

There are ZF dealers in Sydney so I would be getting the work done there.

Garry

[jonesy63]

From the ZF web site...

ZF Services Australia Pty Ltd.
14 Lidco Street
Arndell Park, NSW 2148
Email: info.zf-services.au@zf.com
Phone: +61 2 9679-5555
Fax: +61 2 9679-5500
Homepage: ZF Friedrichshafen AG (http://www.zf.com/au)

[lukesky7]

thanks garry/jonesy. i dont suppose there are any ZF dealers in lower north shore area of sydney?

[101RRS]

thanks garry/jonesy. i dont suppose there are any ZF dealers in lower north shore area of sydney?

Ring ZF and ask them - I did exactly that a while back to find dealers in Canberra - of which there are none.

[lukesky7]

Ok so picked up car today for the other issues with it and one of the service advisors said that they couldnt guarantee that a trans flush would rectify the problem (vibration through gas peddle at 40 km/h) and that 7 out of 10 cases it works but no guarantee. then he said that if it doesnt work i would have to fork out another 6,000 for new transmission as it normally made the trans worse if the flush didnt work. so i could be up for nearly 8,000 bucks if i had to do both. is this accurate?

[adzee]

Ok so picked up car today for the other issues with it and one of the service advisors said that they couldnt guarantee that a trans flush would rectify the problem (vibration through gas peddle at 40 km/h) and that 7 out of 10 cases it works but no guarantee. then he said that if it doesnt work i would have to fork out another 6,000 for new transmission as it normally made the trans worse if the flush didnt work. so i could be up for nearly 8,000 bucks if i had to do both. is this accurate?

Have you tried Instant Shudder Fixx? For $15 from US it's worth a try. I didn't have your symptoms but its was rough. Takes 5 minutes to do...

[KOOS BEST]

Have you tried Instant Shudder Fixx? For $15 from US it's worth a try. I didn't have your symptoms but its was rough. Takes 5 minutes to do...

I had the same symptons, were told by agents and ZF I require a new torque converter.
Then as a last resort I bought 2 tubes of DR TRANNY INSTANT SHUDDER FIX and a 2 x ATF PROTECTANT fom LUBEGARD and guess what happened.

My shudder is gone and gearbox as smooth as day one, it was worth every cheap cent I spend.

[gasman]

Ok so picked up car today for the other issues with it and one of the service advisors said that they couldnt guarantee that a trans flush would rectify the problem (vibration through gas peddle at 40 km/h) and that 7 out of 10 cases it works but no guarantee. then he said that if it doesnt work i would have to fork out another 6,000 for new transmission as it normally made the trans worse if the flush didnt work. so i could be up for nearly 8,000 bucks if i had to do both. is this accurate?
Yes that is correct. However under no circumstances have the work performed by the dealer as they use however is around for the repair and I have proved this to be a waste of 7k as my vehicle is having its 2nd auto installed at another 7k cost. So that adds up to 14k within 100,000 klms spent on the auto, but this time its being re-coed and installed ny people who know what they are doing.
Take your vehicle to a specialist and not the dealer.

[GdayMate]

lukesky7, if you have a look in The Verandah (link below) there is special deal, available to members, on the steel pan kit and oil. I've dealt with Rhys and was happy with the service and products. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/12/13.jpg

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/154809-land-rover-range-rover-automatic-transmission-service-kits-fluids.html

[Graeme]

It will soon be time to change the oil in my D4. I too am thinking of only doing the oil, not seeing any advantage of changing the pan and filter.
A small quantity was drained from my D4's gbox after 90K and was considered to be as clean as new so no oil change for a while yet.

[101RRS]

I am looking at doing a basic oil change (just drain and top up) at my next service 72,000km.

The local dealer wants $95 a litre, the local independent wants $60 a litre and the local Ford dealer had a part number but no listings under the part number.

ZF Sydney said they will only sell through a ZF dealer but we do not have one here but indicated a truck spares company in Hume sells ZF oils but on enquiring they do not sell for cars :confused:.

So where can I get smaller quantities of Lifeguard/Shell product at a reasonable price, preferably local to Canberra. This is just a basic oil change not a full on mega flush.

Thanks

Garry

[PerthDisco]

Just had mine done at 89,000km. Found an independent specialist transmission shop (my Disco mechanic recommended). They buy the oil in bulk.

Cost just under $1000 (ouch) the large chunk of which is replacing the pan.

My wife dropped it off and reported that the shop was filled with late model RRS, Discos, Volvos, BMW's getting gearbox rebuilds :eek:

The guy's comment was 'you've just saved yourself $7k!'

As they say in the classics - an ounce of prevention is worth a tonne of cure.

Must say though - can't tell any difference driving it.

[DiscoWeb]

I am looking at doing a basic oil change (just drain and top up) at my next service 72,000km.


So where can I get smaller quantities of Lifeguard/Shell product at a reasonable price, preferably local to Canberra. This is just a basic oil change not a full on mega flush.

Thanks

Garry

Garry,

did you try the link to the vendor "RoverNova" a couple of post below.

Looks like he sells the Lifeguard product for the ZF in small quantities and ships ?

George

[101RRS]

Garry,

did you try the link to the vendor "RoverNova" a couple of post below.

Looks like he sells the Lifeguard product for the ZF in small quantities and ships ?

George

No I didn't - had missed it - thanks for highlighting it.

His shipped price on oil is about the same as my local independent so it looks as if my independents price is reasonably competitive.

Cheers

Garry