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geodon
30th September 2012, 03:30 PM
I have a non starter UNLESS I prime it with petrol down the carby.
Looking down the throat and working the throttle, I see no evidence of an accelerator pump. Surely they have one?? Should I see a squirt of petrol each time I work the throttle?
Can someone give me a link to how Strombergs work?
Homestar
30th September 2012, 05:37 PM
They do have an accelerator pump. If you are operating the throttle and not seeing any fuel squirting out, then you will probably need to stuff a kit through the carby - very easy to do on these. The accelerator pump bucket washer will be worn and passing fuel behind it.
Here's a pic of one pulled apart clearly showing the accelerator pump chamber.
http://gallery.oldholden.com/d/71507-2/Stromberg+Carburettor+Model+BXV-+2+++++Single+Barrel+Downdraft_001
This kit - STROMBERG CARBURETTOR GASKET REBUILD KIT HOLDEN EH-HD-HR-HK-HT-HG-HQ SMALL BASE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/STROMBERG-CARBURETTOR-GASKET-REBUILD-KIT-HOLDEN-EH-HD-HR-HK-HT-HG-HQ-SMALL-BASE-/320977225626?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4abbbbc79a#ht_1415wt_702) and a couple of hours should see it all fixed.
Cheers - Gav
debruiser
30th September 2012, 08:09 PM
Goedon,
I'm having similar troubles. Have to give her a sniff when she's cold or wont start. Once it's hot/warm no problems at all! I've put a new carbi kit through it too.
mick88
30th September 2012, 08:36 PM
A couple of drops of light oil down the plunger hole might get your accelerator pump working if it has a leather bucket on it (some are leather and later kits have nylon).
Strombergs are a pretty good simple and easy carb to work on.
Cheers, Mick.
Homestar
1st October 2012, 12:19 PM
Goedon,
I'm having similar troubles. Have to give her a sniff when she's cold or wont start. Once it's hot/warm no problems at all! I've put a new carbi kit through it too.
If you have put a kit through it and still have issues when cold, check to ensure the choke is fully closing. These engines need quite a rich mixture to start when cold.
debruiser
1st October 2012, 05:34 PM
If you have put a kit through it and still have issues when cold, check to ensure the choke is fully closing. These engines need quite a rich mixture to start when cold.
ahhh... I had sort of suspected this! Thank you for confirming it! I am going to have another play with the setup for the choke.... Got it to start today without a sniff! yay!
Homestar
1st October 2012, 07:12 PM
ahhh... I had sort of suspected this! Thank you for confirming it! I am going to have another play with the setup for the choke.... Got it to start today without a sniff! yay!
I remember as a child watching my old man trying to start the Kingswood on a cold morning - even when it was new, he used to have to pump the throttle heaps and almost rip the choke cable out of the dash to make it go - mind you, that was on a frosty morning when the whole car was white and you almost needed a chisel to get the ice off, but you get the idea.:)
Although not impossible, it is quite hard to flood these when they are cold, don't hold back on pumping the throttle.
Cheers - Gav
debruiser
2nd October 2012, 02:42 PM
I'm not sure but I could swear that the old girl is starting to get easier to start! maybe i'm just getting used to how to do it.....
I just start it more like I used to start my old Ford Laser, heaps of throtle!! haha.
Thanks for the help guys.
geodon
4th October 2012, 05:34 PM
Don't underestimate the effectiveness of accelerator pumps to prime the carbs for cold starts.
Very early Porsche 356's had twin Solexes but NO chokes. The factory cold start recommendation was to prime them by repeatedly pumping the pedal.
That was a far more practical solution than Ettore Bugatti's solution for a customer who said his cars were a bitch to start when cold: "Well then Monsieur should get heating in his garage!"
Lionelgee
4th October 2012, 07:38 PM
I have a non starter UNLESS I prime it with petrol down the carby.
Looking down the throat and working the throttle, I see no evidence of an accelerator pump. Surely they have one?? Should I see a squirt of petrol each time I work the throttle?
Can someone give me a link to how Strombergs work?
Hello Geodon,
Another thing to watch out for is mix-matched Stromberg carburettor parts. A previous owner of my Series III had a different base and the wrong carburettor for my 202. It had a 161 carburettor main body fitted and a different base even for the 161. This combination was then put on to the 202 motor. Bolted on to the incorrect inlet manifold as well.
This could probably be why the former owner had some high speed issues on the highway.
The link below is a pretty good site for checking to see that everything is as it should be on a Holden carburettor.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/68315221/4/Stromberg-Carburettor-Model-Numbers (http://www.scribd.com/doc/68315221/4/Stromberg-Carburettor-Model-Numbers)
Kind Regards
Lionel
Melbit
6th November 2012, 10:52 AM
I had the very same problem two days ago. No fuel squirt, looked like a blocked jet. Wouldn't kick over at all. My stromberg has been rebuilt not too long ago and I didn't want to do it again if I could help it. Went and got a can of $5 carbie cleaner and did what it instructed to do. Bingo! Started first pop. Driving really well now actually. It's a bit of a hard starter normally, but this morning started with no issues. May be worth spraying some of this around before stripping the carbie down?
Davehoos
6th November 2012, 08:24 PM
have a friend with a chev V6 boat.
its electric choke so if it dont start first hit it wont--and the fuel pump operates of the alternator charge.fixing up for him and these are like the holden 6 and dont need to be that way.
he remarked that his elders in logging buisness instructed him to always adjust the carby mixtures so the exhaust glowed a certian colour and flames came out on over run--allways keep tow rope and tin of petrol for cold starts.
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