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weeds
5th October 2012, 08:51 AM
i'm not talking ex-mil as the winch will be fitted to a military bar so all good

I am looking for ideas on how to fix the front bar/winch arranagement on my defender

currently fitted is a home made cradle fitted to the chassis, around this TJM bar that has the middle section cut out of it........bar and cradle are seperate. the ends of the bar basically flap around in the air, well not quite but the smallest knock would put the bar into my guard

Two option i guess

1. keep existing cradle and build a new bar around it
2. get a custom bar made that incorporates a winch cradle

chasing your ideas

i'm not overly fussed about having barwork above the winch to support lights and antennas

could be as simple as reusing an original defender bumper

re: existing cradle (rar110 and inside hope you are not reading this) i was pleasantly surprised with the winch installations performance on the weekend as i was being dragged up hill on a 2:1 (snatch block) everything stayed in place. am i right that only equates to maybe a bit over half the load?

austastar
8th October 2012, 12:00 PM
Hi,
Taken on a club trip.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1311.jpg

and a cu

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1312.jpg

cheers

weeds
8th October 2012, 12:30 PM
Thanks

I'm on the phone, is that a piece of C channel running across the front in replacement to the standard bumper??

austastar
8th October 2012, 05:55 PM
Hi,
not sure, I have fixed the photo I stuffed up with 2 closeups, now you have a full view.
I will probably see Chris on Wed night at the club meeting, I will ask him then if you like.

cheers

weeds
8th October 2012, 08:43 PM
Hi,
not sure, I have fixed the photo I stuffed up with 2 closeups, now you have a full view.
I will probably see Chris on Wed night at the club meeting, I will ask him then if you like.

cheers

thanks for adding the other photo........it now looks like the standard defender bumper with the winch cradle behind it mounted high enough for the cable to run over the top of the bumper

very similar roller assembly to the army landies

cheers

isuzutoo-eh
16th October 2013, 08:58 PM
I'd like to see how others engage their PTO, particularly in cab, how and where? Any photos please?

weeds
17th October 2013, 06:15 AM
I'd like to see how others engage their PTO, particularly in cab, how and where? Any photos please?

i would show you my set however i am a little embarrassed about the effort...it was supposed to be a short term arrangement as i was in a rush, five years later and its still the same

isuzutoo-eh
17th October 2013, 07:21 AM
i would show you my set however i am a little embarrassed about the effort...it was supposed to be a short term arrangement as i was in a rush, five years later and its still the same

Well that means it works! I would rather see a permanently-temporary :D arrangement than none at all, because I have only ever seen the Perentie arrangement. How about a description? Cable or lever actuation? Location of actuator? Did you borrow bits from somewhere else? I was thinking a twist to lock cable hand throttle might work.

weeds
17th October 2013, 07:36 AM
i have a length of 6mm threaded rod
drilled a hole slightly larger through the seat box right next to the tunnel
i have a nut that i run down the thread so that the PTO cannot engage accidently (main reason for this is i leave the dog cltuch engaged, probably not reccommended)

so to engage i run the nut up the thread, pust the rod rearwards and engage the PTO

the plan is to fit an air cylinder.......i already have air for my locker just need to make up a bracket.......still on the to do list

isuzutoo-eh
17th October 2013, 07:40 AM
Thanks Kelvin, that shows that i'm thinking in the right direction. The army PTOs had a spring return at the pto end that mine doesn't have, so may need to go a solid mechanical actuator similar to yours versus a slightly easier to arrange cable.

clubagreenie
17th October 2013, 01:24 PM
There was (still is?) a company called Flexible Drive Agencies, they make push/pull cables for such applications. They were in Alice Street Newtown, not sure now. But they can make a custom cable, lockable even, for these. I had one made for the PTO on my series.

Here:

Home - Flexible Drive Agencies Pty. Ltd (http://www.fdrive.com.au/)

Probably the place to start.

FDA Push-Pull Cables - Dash Controls - Flexible Drive Agencies Pty. Ltd (http://www.fdrive.com.au/products/02/dashcontrols.php)

isuzutoo-eh
17th October 2013, 02:43 PM
I did a quick google with the terms 'pto drive actuator' and for $19.95USD can get just what I would like...but not sure if it'll work as i don't think my PTO drive has a spring return, unlike the RFSV I was crawling under at Minto last weekend...

weeds
17th October 2013, 03:47 PM
I did a quick google with the terms 'pto drive actuator' and for $19.95USD can get just what I would like...but not sure if it'll work as i don't think my PTO drive has a spring return, unlike the RFSV I was crawling under at Minto last weekend...

you could place a spring on it...........although it would be exposed to the elements

clubagreenie
17th October 2013, 04:48 PM
With a spring return wouldn't you need the lever or cable to be locking though?

isuzutoo-eh
17th October 2013, 05:38 PM
With a spring return wouldn't you need the lever or cable to be locking though?

Correct!