Replacement 'Everything-in-one' headunit

[peter5111]

I have just gone out on a limb and ordered an Eonon 1310 head unit for the D2. It is replacing an earlier generation of Eonon head unit that had a failure in the video switching path that resulted in loss of the GPS display and iPod interfacing.

Maybe I am throwing good money after bad, but I think the product has a lot of potential once they get the interface sorted out. We will see...

[JohnnyRoaster]

Let us know how it works out. I was looking at a similar unit but wasn't sure how the motorized screen would hold up over time. i went with an Alpine iDA-X305s that has a fixed small display for track and album art. Looking forward to putting it in this weekend.

[Biron]

I have just gone out on a limb and ordered an Eonon 1310 head unit for the D2. It is replacing an earlier generation of Eonon head unit that had a failure in the video switching path that resulted in loss of the GPS display and iPod interfacing.

Maybe I am throwing good money after bad, but I think the product has a lot of potential once they get the interface sorted out. We will see...


Eonon


Here is the link to the home page of the website


http://www.eonon.com/
Car DVD Players & Car Monitors Manufacturer: For Car DVD, Car DVD Player`s, Car Monitors, In Car DVD, Car Video DVD, Car Video Monitors, Car GPS ...


Maybe useful to someone for reference et al…

[peter5111]

Let us know how it works out. I was looking at a similar unit but wasn't sure how the motorized screen would hold up over time. i went with an Alpine iDA-X305s that has a fixed small display for track and album art. Looking forward to putting it in this weekend.

Mechanically, the old one worked perfectly over ~18 months without doing anything silly.

The new one has a different style of mechanism so we will see how that works out.

Ended up getting a 170 degree reversing camera at the same time. Had a few hiccups with shipping address (won't ship to a PO box) but hopefully it will be in the mail by the weekend.

[peter5111]

So the 1310 arrived today. DHL tracking shows it was picked up Friday evening and my postie got it lunchtime today. Impressive for free shipping. :)

About a half hour job to rip out the old Eonon unit and fit this one. I very nearly reused the adapter loom from the old unit, but on close inspection the wiring is totally different :/

An interesting problem cropped up pretty quickly - the metal arms that make up part of the display mechanism interfere with the molding around the head unit, so the display won't open up to a viewable angle. For now I am just leaving the unit unlatched in the mounting cradle - it is a pretty tight fit. Needs further consideration as to whether I space the cradle forwards, or file a couple of clearance slots in the dash. In all honesty I think the 'temporary' solution may be a lot more permanent :)

It is early days yet, but the software is a lot more refined and consistent though I have to say I don't like the GPS software load. Happily, being a cheap Chinese device you are fully flexible to fit your own software load. I have transferred the iGO 8 load from old unit. Being a Windows CE based GPS, you can also run oziExplorer.

Still need to route the camera wiring, but I might go have a quick play with it anyway. Can't resist new shiny things :)

[peter5111]

And showing my usual stunning aptitude for engage brain before mouth, I forgot the camera needs 12v and I am not about to start messing with wiring at at this time of night.

ozi does run, and DVD's seem to play ok too. I don't think it will cope with divX, but I will have a crack at it sometime this week.

[peter5111]

So the temporary solution became very temporary once the cradle relaxed a bit and the head unit started sliding out from the diesels vibration ;)

I ended up setting the cradle about 5mm proud, and it really isn't obvious.

Couple of minor software issues with the iPod functionality, I can't browse the playlists on the iPod which is a bit of a PITA. The iPod continues to stay powered after the head unit shuts down. This causes the batteries to go flat .

Started pulling the camera cabling last night. Ended up screwing the camera to the high brake light housing. We will see if it is a workable position. Wiring follows the brake light wiring. Fiddly to get it in there and required two 40 thou wire pull-throughs, one from the top centre of the door frame and the other up from the loom feed-through in the door hinge. After pulling out the grommet for the demister wiring, the rest was just a case of being patient and gentle. The brake light hole is just big enough to get the video RCA connector through.

The trick I found to make it all work is to wrap a loop of wire around the center of the RCA connector and a second one around the back of the body. The first loop guides the connector and the second gives something firm to pull on.

For now the camera wiring is bundled up behind the RH bin waiting for me to have time to run it forwards. Still trying to figure out how on earth I am going to manage that. Probably along the sill line, under the drivers seat then up through the center console.

[CCS]

After reading your helpful posts i went and bought the same unit :)

Ive only spent a few minutes putting the unit in the car and checking power so far. Using the iso harness it all worked fine straight away, except for playing video which gives the warning message about the car being in motion. How did you connect the brake and rear view control wires for this and the camera? (Pink and brown)?

I look forward to hearing how you go with the rear view camera wiring too :)

[gavinwibrow]

I put my reversing camera under the top rear door brake light too - thinking ahead for when I fit double spare wheels and the numberplate is not centred anyway. Works well with the rear bumper in the bottom of the picture for locating where I'm at (mine does not have any parking lines inserted into the screen).
I normally drive with the motorised screen closed (don't have gps), so have to remember to activate the motorised screen opening if I need the reversing camera.

You may not have the same problem as me if you don't listen to AM (old farts radio), but my woeful rception was finally resolved by earthing to my bullbar fitted extension arial plus earthing the cradle AND disconnecting the amplifier for the rear side window in glass arial. Good luck.
I won't be using the dvd whilst driving (but grandies as back seat passengers probably will). Mine has been set up by the installer so the dvd will work as soon as the handbrake is on the first ratchet - just means I have to remember not to adjust the handbrake too tight.

[CCS]

Thanks for the inputs. Mounting the camera high sounds like its a good way to go.

I want the video configured like yours, ie i'm happy for it to be disabled while on the move. Currently though it seems to be disabled all the time so i just need to work out which wire to connect to the handbrake.

[Diesel Dan]

I also purchased this unit after reading Peter's posts (you should get kickbacks from eonon)

I have installed the camera under the door handle area next to the rh number plate light. I ran the wiring in the same area as Peter. I also purchased the digital tv unit and was wondering if anyone has fitted these, especially the two antennas. I'm not sure where to stick them?

kind regards Dan.

[FANTOM P38]

I purchased similar unit some time ago, and have not had any issuses with it,
It has built in SD digital tv only and I purchased a HD box for it with twin antennas but this was did not get good reception so I will buy another brand of HD box rhe rest works well. It has IGO8 nav which works well and in addition to reverse camera I have installed a front facing camera in each side mirror looking at front wheels for offroad use. I was thinking of installing Ozi & offroad maps but latest thought is Ipad mini instead.
I reckon these units are great value for money as sound is good and it even wires up to steering wheel controls.

[CCS]

We've now spent a few days driving around the high country. I have to say I'm quite impressed with the gps in the eonon. Its as good or better than any other i have used. The iphone connectivity works well too. I tended to close the screen when we hit the gnarly roads to try and avoid shake.

I have now stripped out the interior of the car to dry out the carpets and look for leaks plus have been looking at camera locations. I will probably go with the location on the rear door handle too.

Fantom - You must live pretty close to my place.

[Diesel Dan]

CCS, you might find it helpful to order a couple of the christmas tree fastners that hold the rear door skin on. A couple of mine broke, but i'm a heavy handed diesel mechanic:D. Also when threading the wiring through the door to body (rubber snake) remove the snake from the flanges it will make it much easier to run the wire through (the snake will still stay in place but has a middle flange that is a pita. I havn't tested the unit out properly yet.

[CCS]

Thanks for the tips. :)

[peter5111]

In my attempt to make the camera installation look 'factory', I managed to squeeze the camera loom through the rubber sleeve that carries the eye-level brake light wiring. In the process I think I have broken at least one of the wires. :( . First repair attempt will involve cutting off the connector and splicing all four wires. If that gets me nowhere then I will probably get one of the their 2.4G wireless camera setups. I have seen the 2.4G idea on ebay but I don't know how much faith I have in them. *shrug* what is the worst that can happen :D.

Busy sorting out replacement timber floors in the house we just bought, organising a wedding and 5 week Europe honeymoon, so the camera is probably going to take a back seat for the next couple of months. :cool:

[Hastykiwi]

Hi, if you purchase the aus maps for the navigation gps function, can you also use ozi as a separate gps software.

cheers
Nick

[VladTepes]

I like the idea of a unit like this - does anyone who has posted in this forum have a D1 - or is the D2 dash the same as the D1 fro installation?

Wondering how I could instal a unit like this one without screen fouling on the dash and not opening fully.








Busy sorting out replacement timber floors in the house we just bought, organising a wedding and 5 week Europe honeymoon,

You must be have been rich !



so the camera is probably going to take a back seat

No no if you can see the back seat the camera is mounted too far forward.... :lol2:

[VladTepes]

Bump !!


I like the idea of a unit like this - does anyone who has posted in this forum have a D1 - or is the D2 dash the same as the D1 fro installation?

Wondering how I could instal a unit like this one without screen fouling on the dash and not opening fully.


also -

Do these have iGo 8 ? Are maps included? Or extra cost? or available elsewhere?

How many inputs are on the back? e.g. could you have a rear camera AND a TV box connected to one?

I'm looking at the
http://www.eonon.com/Car-GPS/1-Din-Car-GPS-DVD/G1310.html
possibly buying it along with the TV components
http://www.eonon.com/Car-GPS/1-Din-Car-GPS-DVD/C0914.html

Is the digital TV box that comes with some of the units only SD or HD ?
Edit - just found the specs - it's SD only.

[michaelp]

The soundstream in mine should fit in any single din slot.
Didnt get the GPS add on to expensive

[VladTepes]

As far as the fit is concerned I am wondering (as it was mentioned by someone else) whether it will fit in and allow the screen to fully open.

Someone mentioned this is problematic though I THINK they have a D2. Having said that, is the D1 and D2 different in respect of that portion of the dash ?

[peter5111]

Passing through briefly and will try to answer the questions I have seen pop up.

The unit comes with Synergic (?) GPS software. The one I had previously had iGO 8 on it. Both work well and both have their nuances.

As far as mounting and the screen opening fully, you can't push the cradle fully back since this causes the lip on the dashboard to interfere with the 'arms' that make up part of the display angle adjustment. If you set the cradle about 5mm proud of the dash, everything works fine.

Unit only has a single camera input.

As mentioned previously, OZI works fine. The unit can be thought of as an 'unlocked' WinCE based GPS with removable SD card. I have iGO and OZI installed on the same SD card. To switch between them I just go into the settings and change where the GPS expects to find its software. Then reboot the GPS. All up takes about 45 seconds to do the config change plus however long the software takes to boot. I don't recommend doing the change on the move though since it requires accurate fingers.

[VladTepes]

Does it have an SD card slot? I missed that...

[VladTepes]

So

1) Where to buy these units? From the website? I presume you order the maps somehow at the same time? (How much extra are the AU maps?)

2) Any other equipment worth getting from the same mob. I have a reversing camera which should do the job, so don't really need one of those.

3) I see that they sell as SD TV tuner for use with it, bit can;t be sure whether an HD tuner (for the extra stations more so than the quality) from elsewhere would eb compatible. Perhaps not?

[peter5111]

The unit I have has two micro-SD slots. One for the GPS software load and the other for music / audio books / video etc. It plays MP3 but I don't know about WMA.

Purchased direct from the manufacturers website with free international shipping.

The software and maps are about 50 AUD but the device is an unlocked WinCE device running an ARM processor from memory, so you can get most things to run. If you do not have experience in doing this then I strongly suggest you just pay the 50 AUD and be done with it. The maps are current and once you have functioning software, updating the maps isn't too hard.

[VladTepes]

I really like this idea and reckon I'll getone but have a number of other expenses at the moment so it may be a few months before i can stump up the cash. Thanks for ev eryone's input.

[loanrangie]

I have iGO 8 and maps that i run on an ipaq so if you want a copy Vlad i can stick on a disc for you ;).

[VladTepes]

I have iGO 8 and maps that i run on an ipaq so if you want a copy Vlad i can stick on a disc for you ;).

That would be very unethical.

Meanwhile, on a completely unrelated subject ;) I'll send you a PM

[Mattblack59bus]

I'm interested in getting one of these too, was just about to buy one, BUT, I can't find out if it can play unprotected MP4, (h.263) via the SD card. Most of my movies are in iTunes in that format. And if so what size SD card can it take?

Has anyone tried it?

Cheers
Marc

[VladTepes]

I note that the radio is not digital but is RDS.

Built-In RDS Radio Receiver Function Yes

IS this supported in Australia? Basically the functionality I want (she wants) is that the radio will show the song and artist that is playing.

Anyone know?

[sheerluck]

I note that the radio is not digital but is RDS.


IS this supported in Australia? Basically the functionality I want (she wants) is that the radio will show the song and artist that is playing.

Anyone know?

Yes, it's supported. My Golf has it, though it does depend on the station as to what is actually displayed. Some don't show the song/artist.

[VladTepes]

Couple more questions...


Do I need an adapter loom to plug it into the Disco1 ? If so what loom and where do I get one...



As far as mounting and the screen opening fully, you can't push the cradle fully back since this causes the lip on the dashboard to interfere with the 'arms' that make up part of the display angle adjustment. If you set the cradle about 5mm proud of the dash, everything works fine.


How can the unit actually be mounted, solidly, out 5mm ? And if it can, is there a surround or something available so that it looks more "factory" than "dodgy" ?

[loanrangie]

If the replacement uses an ISO plug then it should just plug in, otherwise Aerpro do looms to suit most makes of stereo to ISO loom.

[VladTepes]

Site says

Installation TypeISO 1 DIN Size

So should be a straight plug in....

Assuming that the current pioneer system in there has been fitted with an adapter and not by cutting and shutting the loom... If the latter I might pay someone to fix it....

I'll be having a look in there during the next few days sometime..... hope its good news....

[VladTepes]

Bugger. Not good news.

PLUGS

The pioneer stereo in the car has a plug which is 6x2 layout.

Would that be what's known as a ISO plug?

Looks similar to this
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/03/176.jpg
(except 6x2)
harness plug is kinda sorta similar to this....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/03/176.jpg

Certainly the plug on my new pioneer system is totally different.

[Mattblack59bus]

Car stereo ISO plug has 3 connectors A B and C, most head units have A and B together.

Picture attached is of a head unit cable AB type and the back of the D2a factory single CD player with ABC type.

Female connectors are in the car.

[Hoges]

I note that the radio is not digital but is RDS.


IS this supported in Australia? Basically the functionality I want (she wants) is that the radio will show the song and artist that is playing.

Anyone know?

RDS is supported on quite a few FM stations...the (still original) Alpine head in my MY99 P38 displays it! (which I only discovered once Scouse had enlightened us on how to fiddle the buttons to change the "market" setting;):D

however this new gadget looks the goods... how do you stop thieves removing it...does the screen detach for example to reduce the temptation factor?

[VladTepes]

The screen folds inside the unit, and the front face is (as far as I can tell) also detachable.

I wouldn't have thought stealing car stereos was as popular now as in the past - stick on GPS units etc being an easier target ?


Aside from the wiring my main concern is how to actually mount the unit far enough forward so that it is solidly fixed (ie won't slide out) and allows the screen the clear the dash when opened. Ideas? Tips ?

[CCS]

Aside from the wiring my main concern is how to actually mount the unit far enough forward so that it is solidly fixed (ie won't slide out) and allows the screen the clear the dash when opened. Ideas? Tips ?

Mine's a D2 but I would think its the same as a D1. I used the supplied insert (surrounding bracket or whatever its called) and mounted it about 5-10mm out from fully in the dash. Then bent back the tabs around the insert to hold it firm. This allows the screen to open nicely but still holds it firmly in the dash. Looks fine too.

[VladTepes]

I see the G1310 is out of stock on the website - all you buggers must have bought one....

[Disco Muppet]

Bugger. Not good news.

PLUGS

The pioneer stereo in the car has a plug which is 6x2 layout.

Would that be what's known as a ISO plug?

Looks similar to this
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/attachments/car-audio/39644d1170767546-simple-stupid-car-radio-audio-question-sony-back.jpg
(except 6x2)
harness plug is kinda sorta similar to this....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/03/176.jpg

Certainly the plug on my new pioneer system is totally different.


Same as is on mine, it's a Pioneer specific plug AFAIK.
I had a freelander loom in mine, from car to ISO.
Then I got an ISO - Pioneer plug, but the securing clips were on the wrong side!
Some cutting (of my finger) in the SCA carpark and it was in.
But I'm getting me one of these D1310s, They look like a great buy.

[VladTepes]

Did you end up getting one yet Muppet? I haven't but probably will in June.

[Disco Muppet]

Did you end up getting one yet Muppet? I haven't but probably will in June.

No, uni issues lead to a relocation of funds.
Dicing up between one of these and an iPad for navigation/music/video etc.
We'll see.

[turps]

No, uni issues lead to a relocation of funds.
Dicing up between one of these and an iPad for navigation/music/video etc.
We'll see.

I wish you had gone ahead. As I am keen to upgrade my stereo so it has a better iphone input. Using an FM transmitter sux's big time.
As for mapping. Ipad maps are expensive. Where as I have a heap of maps and I have already paid for license codes for Oziexlplorer and Ozi_CE.

Just been browsing for stereos over the last couple of days. Seems to be $300-400 will get me something. Just dont think I have found something with the right screen. Pretty sure I have seen them with better resolution that 800x480.

[VladTepes]

IMO thats perfectly acceptable resolotion for a 7" screen - not like its a computer monitor in front of you when you would notice the low res.

[turps]

IMO thats perfectly acceptable resolotion for a 7" screen - not like its a computer monitor in front of you when you would notice the low res.

Your right I am sure it would be fine. As I was happy with the resolution of a cheap 7" GPS I brought 5yrs ago. And I doubt it was that high. I just thought I seen a higher one.

[RangieBit]

snip
Just dont think I have found something with the right screen. Pretty sure I have seen them with better resolution that 800x480.

Actually 800x480 is very high resolution and would show a significant amount of detail. If you scale up that pixel density it's about 2650X1650 on a 24" monitor. Even people who do photo editing for a living would be jealous of resolution like that. Certainly much better than HDTV at only 1920x1080!

Just my $0.02 worth.

Cheers,
Iain

[turps]

Actually 800x480 is very high resolution and would show a significant amount of detail. If you scale up that pixel density it's about 2650X1650 on a 24" monitor. Even people who do photo editing for a living would be jealous of resolution like that. Certainly much better than HDTV at only 1920x1080!

Just my $0.02 worth.

Cheers,
Iain

Thanks for explaining it like that Iain.
Luckily I just did my tax. So should be cashed up in a fortnight.

[VladTepes]

Anyone have any pics of one of these units installed in their Landy?

[VladTepes]

Just went to order one today - out of stock ! How typical !!!

[TheDonsWay]

A quick question. When did they start getting called "head units"? A head unit used to be a thin face panel with the rest of the unit completely separate and elsewhere in the vehicle ie. under the seat or in the glove box.

[manic]

A head unit used to be a thin face panel

I think perhaps that's what you decided to call it? The head unit for me was always the entire unit on the dash. Head unit connected to amp, speakers, cd changer, even parametric eq on some vehicles in the 80's.

The face panel is 'the face'..... but call it what you like.

[VladTepes]

Yep. What manic said.

[TheDonsWay]

Its only been in the last few years I have heard of them referred to as head units. When I bought my first stereo back in 82 it was simply a stereo, they weren't even advertised as head units back then.
I did have a 2 way radio back then which had an actual head unit and the main box connected via cable sitting under the seat. The head unit was like a normal "face" but only 10 to 15 mm thick.

[Disco Muppet]

Just went to order one today - out of stock ! How typical !!!

Yep, but the 1311 isn't....
At these prices, it's only a matter of time until one of these ends up in the D2.