Whats your opinion, White or Black?

[Babs]

I have been pricing the white Defender, as the Hilux is/was the first Black vehicle I have ever owned and it is bloomin HOT.

So I figured Fuji White is the new Black :D

But I must admit there is nothing better looking than a Black Defender. Is it worth boiling my backside off in summer though?

Is there any pro's to the black having aluminium panels or is it still like a furnace on hot days?

I would love to hear some feedback from Black and White owners and any in between.

I was picturing Fuji White with the windows from 2nd row back tinted out at 5% and 20 or 35% up front, I'm guessing this will be the coolest option. Your thoughts???

Regards,

Babs.

[JayBoRover]

I was wanting a white D90 when I chanced across the metallic silver one I bought. I prefer lighter colours for the heat reflective property but I suspect it's not as big an issue as I think. To be honest I think the new Def's have decent air con and the vertical windows minimise sun impact, so get decent tint on as many windows as you can and enjoy. Choose the colour you like most:cool:.

[Didge]

Black with white roof looks good.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Well my 110 is Black and I can't say its a hole heap hotter than any other color.

Personally white would be the last color I'd buy, but that's just me.

If you like black then go with it. I'm sure you could argue that Java black is metallic and therefore the silver particles will reflect some of mr sunshine away from the car thus giving you some cooling effect, though not as much as the coolness you'll feel from driving the black beast!!!

My black TD5 has been over several of the Aussie Deserts and I've never been above gas mark 2:)

Anyway, all this chat about most cooling color is a bit irrelevant for 2007 vehicles onwards, their aircon works!!!!

R
Jon

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[goingbush]

I had a dark red 80 series, the a/c was running flat out anywhere west of victoria, I painted the roof white with a hardware shop pressure pack and the a/c only needed to go on low.

As a result the only color I considered when buying my current Defender was white, if I had any other color i would defenetly paint the roof white.

[Gillie]

this is perhaps the only exception to the rule "Once you have had black........." :D

[Sue]

Mine is not black.. it's bronze with a black roof.. and on hot days it's like an oven.. just saying.. :)

I like the white Defenders.. they looks smart and I am thinking you wouldn't notice marks like Lantana pin striping half as much on a white car..

[Iain_B]

I've had black, blue, silver and white cars - white cars are noticeably cooler. A black car always looks dirty - silver and white cars just don't show the dirt as much. The problem I have with silver car is that in dappled light ( going through forest roads etc, the silver makes them "camouflaged" against the road surface.

One thing that makes a big difference is the white plywood sheet in the roof rack - the tropical roof effect makes my Defender much cooler.

Tinted windows also make a huge difference. Driving a car along the SE freeway in the morning without tinted windows requires good air con, but with the tinted windows in my Defender, I don't even use the aircon.

[460cixy]

White its the way of the future and there's no clear on white so buffing out marks is very easy un like black and metallic colors

[Gillie]

White its the way of the future and there's no clear on white so buffing out marks is very easy un like black and metallic colors

Which is why I would pick a flat colour for a 4WD. The wifes old disco 2 was burgundy and would look horrible after a drive out

[Garry]

I only buy black Landrovers, 4 so far and the newest is a black 90 and would not consider anything else, my choice of course but afer sitting in the sun all day my wifes silver freelander is stinking hot so much of a muchness I think and as mentioned the air con works in the new defenders

G

[vnx205]

I only buy black Landrovers, 4 so far and the newest is a black 90 and would not consider anything else, my choice of course but afer sitting in the sun all day my wifes silver freelander is stinking hot so much of a muchness I think and as mentioned the air con works in the new defenders

G

That is hardly a fair comparison.

Compare the area of glass in each of the vehicles and compare the slope of the windscreens. The Freelander has much more in common with a glasshouse (or greenhouse or hothouse) than the Defender.

If your wife's silver Freelander with its big sloping windscreen only gets about as hot as your Defender with its tiny almost vertical windscreen, that is proof that the Freelander benefits a lot from being silver rather than black.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Forgot to mention I have a full length rack and roof tent on mine, that may help cool things a little.

Dont forget also, most cars have windows that you can open:)

I still maintain you should buy the colour you like. There's no point buying a white car if you want black just because its perceived to give you a few degrees extra cooling. You would always be wishing you'd bought the black.

[MuzzyDelta90]

My current D90 is black and it really doesn't get any hotter than any other colour - my previous car was a white Honda Accord and it still got hot. Wouldn't mind a white roof though - think the contrast will look quite good!

[vnx205]

My current D90 is black and it really doesn't get any hotter than any other colour - my previous car was a white Honda Accord and it still got hot. Wouldn't mind a white roof though - think the contrast will look quite good!

See post #12. :)

[cal415]

My 130 is Orkney grey which is fairly dark, and to be honest i think my white prado used to get hotter in the sun.... Since buying it i also pulled the hood lining out and lined the whole roof with dynamat and replaced the hood lining over top, and i have tinted my windows fairly dark, these made 2 mods made a heap of difference to the car.

[lowbox]

White is the new Black

[vnx205]

My 130 is Orkney grey which is fairly dark, and to be honest i think my white prado used to get hotter in the sun.... Since buying it i also pulled the hood lining out and lined the whole roof with dynamat and replaced the hood lining over top, and i have tinted my windows fairly dark, these made 2 mods made a heap of difference to the car.

See post #12. :):)

[Babs]

Great feedback guys, Thank you.

A few comments on this thread had me re-looking at black, but I must say I was getting hot looking at them, it kept reminding me of the Hilux on hot days.

So saying that I think I will go the White, besides white is the new black.

The white does have other benefits, I remember an article in NRMA open road some years back surveying colours and white triumphed as the most safest colour for a motor vehicle, and it does supposedly stay cleaner (I kind of beg to differ on that one) white probably just looks cleaner as black just shows everything.

Anyways this thread has served its purpose and as given me great advise to help me with my decision. Thanks again.

Babs.

[Garry]

See post #12. :):)

I read post 12 many times to try and understand, but alas a hot car is a hot car for my 2 cents :unsure:

Now I do appreciate that white does not absorb heat the same as black, I cant rest my hand on it in the summer for one but sitting in the sun all day, they just get hot ;)

G

[Babs]

I read post 12 many times to try and understand, but alas a hot car is a hot car for my 2 cents :unsure:

Now I do appreciate that white does not absorb heat the same as black, I cant rest my hand on it in the summer for one but sitting in the sun all day, they just get hot ;)

G

Garry,

Mate you have a point there, they do all get hot. But I figure I could leave the kids locked up in a white one for probably another good 10 minutes before emergency services would have to be called, thats about 3 extra schooners :eek:

Nah seriously yes the black absorbs a hell of a lot more heat, and takes so much longer to cool down inside after the air is put on, and although they are all hot locked up I have never felt heat from a white like I have from the black car when opening and getting in, I cant think those extra degrees would do the interior any benefit.

Also the white body panels seem to cool whilst driving as well. But the black just stays hot. Its really a no brainer, but the Black just suits a defender so well its just tempting to get it in black and live with it. But I have 5 others to think about, I'm sure the kids will be more comfortable while im downing the extra schooners :eek:

Don't really drink :angel:, just my warped sense of humour, and half of my kids are old enough to open the doors and get out, just thought I'd add that incase there was some prim & proper politically correct so and so reading on here, but I would not expect that from a Land Rover owner anyway :wasntme:

Babs.

[Samblers]

Its personal preference.

Personally i think gloss black is a terrible colour for a utilitarian car which is going to get knocked about and scratched. Here in WA i would only consider white or silver, for the heat reflectivity... but then it is basically a desert in summer :cool:

Many older cars (with no a/c) had white roofs for that reason.

I bought white.

[Nera Donna]

I have a black one with a sunroof and yes it’s a pain in summer, that’s the way mine came.
Winter it’s absolutely fine even in Perth.
I would seriously consider white and tint your windows.
But at the end of the day it’s your money and you have to like the vehicle.
PS. Fitting Dynamat as suggested earlier, is defiantly not a waste of time or money. ;)

[JDNSW]

Up to you what you get, but I am always bemused by those who consider looks more important than practicality - especially in what is a utility vehicle, that you presumably are buying because of its practicality.

In the climate of most of Australia, in my view, any colour except white or near white, at least for the roof, is just plain silly. (But if it is a good buy, don't let the colour put you off - hence mine is blue - with a white roof)

John

[vnx205]

I read post 12 many times to try and understand, but alas a hot car is a hot car for my 2 cents :unsure:

Now I do appreciate that white does not absorb heat the same as black, I cant rest my hand on it in the summer for one but sitting in the sun all day, they just get hot ;)

G

My point is that colour is not the only thing that affects the temperature. There is no point in comparing vehicles with a huge sloping windscreen with a Defender.

Most of the research seems to suggest that the biggest difference between black and white cars is the speed at which they heat up. So if you leave them out in the sun all day, the difference will be negligible, but if you leave them in the sun while you pick up a few items at your local supermarket, the difference will be significant. That seems to be the finding of the research published on the internet.

I believe that the difference between a black Defender and a white Defender would be greater than the differences between a black and a white Prado, Civic, Freelander or any modern conventional shaped sedan. The percentage of temperature rise resulting from sunshine through the glass would be lower than with a sedan. Some of the research mentioned big differences in the temperature of the painted surface. Since a Defender has a higher metal to glass ratio than most vehicles, it would seem reasonable to expect that the temperature difference of the painted surfaces would have a greater impact on the interior temperature.

At the end of the day, a white Defender might be almost as hot as a black one, but the research suggests that the black one will reach that temperature sooner.

[ATH]

I wouldn't consider any other colour except white not only for coolness but it doesn't show the scratches any where near as much as the dark clours do. And after seeing the trouble my elder Bro got into when he scratched his wifes brand new BLACK Vogue I'm certainly not game to try anything else. :D
AlanH.

[Babs]

Up to you what you get, but I am always bemused by those who consider looks more important than practicality - especially in what is a utility vehicle, that you presumably are buying because of its practicality.

In the climate of most of Australia, in my view, any colour except white or near white, at least for the roof, is just plain silly. (But if it is a good buy, don't let the colour put you off - hence mine is blue - with a white roof)

John

Here here John. I left a deposit on a white one today I pick it up Friday. Cheers.

Thank you - to everyones advise.:)

[Babs]

Update, since owning the white.

Heaps cooler and, since tinting the windows amazing difference. We have now had a few hot days in Syd and I gotta say I have not noticed the heat getting in after being locked up.

Very happy.

[Samblers]

Ditto

Just bought white 110 with tint and often dont need aircon on at all on... noticeably cooler than other darker cars we've owned

:cool:

[greenhornet]

My 2008 Puma is black.
The heat is not an issue.
Black shows the scratches.....I am not worried, but I know it would worry some.