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AnD3rew
15th December 2012, 08:41 PM
Got this message today. I admit I was putting it into Llams special mode high at the time:angel: but only once, I wasn't messing around raising and lowering repeatedly.

Is this a bad sign?

101RRS
15th December 2012, 09:28 PM
No.

The handbook specifies that this is not a Fault message but an advisory message.

Just means the air bottle has been exhausted and the car is being raised on the air compressor alone - alternatively your air compressor may be hot from playing around with LLAMS too much and is having a rest.

It is important with LLAMS not to be going up and down a lot - select what height you need and leave it there.

If you continually get the the message then by all means suspect a fault but the occasional message is quite OK.

Garry

AnD3rew
15th December 2012, 09:57 PM
Thanks Garry, that's a relief, I have seen all the compressor failures here and was a bit worried for a Minute that it was a sign mine was on the way out.

CaverD3
16th December 2012, 07:26 AM
Could be a good idea to sieve and dry the compressor dryer beads?

scarry
16th December 2012, 09:12 AM
Could be a good idea to sieve and dry the compressor dryer beads?

How is this done,is it relatively easy?

AnD3rew
16th December 2012, 12:12 PM
How is this done,is it relatively easy?

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SBD4
16th December 2012, 12:32 PM
How is this done,is it relatively easy?



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Look at these threads:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/146033-d3-rrs-air-compressor.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/141300-compressor-repair.html

101RRS
16th December 2012, 12:58 PM
Andrew I have had that message a few times and mainly playing around with LLAMS. The system when charged will raise from access to offroad +50 and back probably twice before it runs out of puff. When raising one step (say the equivalent of onroad to offroad) then I just do it but when raising over a greater range I wait until I hear the air compressor is stopped as that should mean the airtank is full - this is usually enough to make any height changes that are required and does not stress the compressor.

It is my view that then compressors while probably a little small are up to the task if common sense is used with the height. I used to lower to access everytime I stopped to get in and out - raise it from offroad to +50 at the sign of any rough stuff - I no longer do. I run around at -20 and when offroad I stay at onroad +50 (or +30 or whatever it is for better roads) and try to resist the use of offroad + unless absolutely necessary - as it saves the air compressor. I believe the majority of compressor failures are caused by clogged desiccant making the compressor work hard and over heat leading to failure. I am not sure why Landrover didn't build the things with a serviceable desiccant canister in the the air intake hose and it is replaced say every 48,000km in normal use. I think that their logic was that as the air intake is in the cabin the air compressor would be sucking in dehumidified are from the cabin where the A/C system has taken the moisture from the air - the reality is somewhat different.

My car has now covered 72,000km and the compressor is still working but at that Kms I assume the desiccant is starting to get full of water. I think I will also de-humidify my desiccant on the basis of information provided on here.

Cheers

Garry