Meet Bruce

[Chris72]

I picked myself up a new project, Thinking this one looks like a lot of fun, it has a holden 186 in it but I think the motor is seized as there is a lot of milky residue on the dip stick, but that's no problem as I have running 138 grey motor from an EJ holden which I think should go straight in. I'm not sure how far I'm going to go with this old boy, engine swap is a must, also needs some work done to the interia and the wooden tray also needs replacing, The body is quite good so will leave that alone for now, looks as if someone has replaced the floor sections with aluminium sheet but it's been screwed down so should be easy enough to see what going on under it, the chassis looks really good which I'm glad of , now just need to make some room for it so I can get to work.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/RCK-914/DSCF3328_zps2ab93642.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/RCK-914/DSCF3327_zps810052a4.jpg

[shorty943]

Nice.
Got all the goodies too.
Sturdy plate to mount a winch, Free wheeling hubs, and "real" mirrors.
Can't go wrong there mate.

[outback jeff]

Hi Chris,

I think thats a Series 1 you have there not a Series 2.

Cheers Jeff

[incisor]

in my best monty python voice

Bruce!

Monty Python - Bruce - YouTube

[Chris72]

Think your right there Jeff, it's got twin wiper motors but I can't find a chassis number, did find this number on a plate in the centre of the dash " car no. 277600284" anyone know what this refers to ? the previous owner told me it was a series 2 so that's all I had to go on until I get it home, bonus it's only a 2 minute trip as it's just up the road.

Incisor I think It looks like a Bruce not sure why, maybe in the back of my mind I was think of that monty python skit lol.

[outback jeff]

Think your right there Jeff, it's got twin wiper motors but I can't find a chassis number, did find this number on a plate in the centre of the dash " car no. 277600284" anyone know what this refers to ? the previous owner told me it was a series 2 so that's all I had to go on until I get it home, bonus it's only a 2 minute trip as it's just up the road.

Incisor I think It looks like a Bruce not sure why, maybe in the back of my mind I was think of that monty python skit lol.

Hi Chris, I found my Chassis number on the left hand side engine mount, but mine is a 1951, I thing on the later ones like yours it might be on the rear spring hanger. You might be better off re-posting the photos and questions in the Series 1 section, there lots of people on there that know lots more about Series 1s than me. There is also a thing called CALVIN, where you put the number in and it tells you the vehicle details, but I can't find the link.

Looks like a nice truck though, almost had one of them myself till the bloke I was buying it off changed his mind and decieded to keep it. It's lots of fun doing them up though.

Cheers Jeff

[russellrovers]

Hi Chris,

I think thats a Series 1 you have there not a Series 2.

Cheers Jeff
yes its a 1957 lwb 107 ckd jim

[Chris72]

Found the CALVIN LINK put in the number below which was on a plate in the dash centre and this is what it tells me, just not sure if it's correct no. as I can't find a number on the chassis to confirm this

CalVIN, the Land Rover VIN CALculator

277600284

277 Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Basic
Wheel base: 109in
Engine: diesel
Model years: 1962-1971
Destination: Export, right-hand drive (RHD)
60028 Serial number
4 Design: Significantly modified, no further details known
You have entered one or more VIN codes not fully known to me. When you did not make a typing error, would you please be so kind as to provide me with details, so that I can enlarge the information set of CalVIN?

[outback jeff]

Hi Chris,

I don't think that the plate inside is the original, it's not a 2A. Have a look at the left side rear spring hanger, you may need to rub it back with some sand paper, or rub some chalk on it. My S1 had a different number on the firewall to the chassis.

Cheers Jeff

[B.S.F.]

Think your right there Jeff, it's got twin wiper motors but I can't find a chassis number, did find this number on a plate in the centre of the dash " car no. 277600284" anyone know what this refers to ? the previous owner told me it was a series 2 so that's all I had to go on until I get it home, bonus it's only a 2 minute trip as it's just up the road.

Incisor I think It looks like a Bruce not sure why, maybe in the back of my mind I was think of that monty python skit lol.

According to the L/R Workshop manual part no.4291 277600284 is a 55 model. .W.

P.S I used to have 277600133

[Series3 GT]

That there is definetly a Series 1, the flat sides give it away! It is a very weird Series 1 cause of those guards with the 'Bug Eye' headlights and curved edges, probably off a late IIA.

[Chris72]

Thanks for the info guys I'm still new to the Landies so it's a learning curve, just went and checked the rear left spring hanger, scraped it back to metal and gave it a sand, unfortunately there was no number, also had a scratch around the front right and couldn't see any numbers. has anyone got a pic of where the chassis number should be as I might not be looking in the right spot.

Cheers Chris

[Jonesy1972]

It definitely looks looks like a S1 107". What is the distance between the back of the wheel arch to the firewall (door pillar)? If it is 8" (roughly) it is a 107" and definately a S1 , if the distance is 10" then it is a 109" and could be a S1 or S2.

Regards
Jonesy

[Landy Smurf]

It is definitely a s1 I normally measure axle to axle I see someone has put lights on the fenders( that is a shame).
The body looks like it really good though and photos of the interior? what is the rust like in the chassis and the firewall?

[outback jeff]

That there is definetly a Series 1, the flat sides give it away! It is a very weird Series 1 cause of those guards with the 'Bug Eye' headlights and curved edges, probably off a late IIA.

It's not the first one I've seen done like that, it's done when Holden six conversion is done as there is not enough room as the radiator has to be moved forward so the lights are moved to the mudguards

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad84/jeffcon13/IMAGE_085_zps4ed8eff0.jpg

Cheers Jeff

[Jonesy1972]

It is definitely a s1 I normally measure axle to axle I see someone has put lights on the fenders( that is a shame).
The body looks like it really good though and photos of the interior? what is the rust like in the chassis and the firewall?

Thanks Tony. Sometimes the easiest solutions are the best. Why didn't I think of measuring the axle distance.

[Chris72]

It is definitely a s1 I normally measure axle to axle I see someone has put lights on the fenders( that is a shame).
The body looks like it really good though and photos of the interior? what is the rust like in the chassis and the firewall?

There is some rust on the drivers side fire wall and door frame, the interior seems to be all there but is a bit weathered, dash centre needs to be put back in, seat foam looks bad but covers look ok, the chassis looks good with the exception of the rear bar below the tail lights but that should be a easy fix, there's signs of bog in the r/h front guard. I'm bringing it home on the weekend so will no more then. I'm really looking forward to this project, I've been a Holden guy all my life so the engine will be easy but every thing else is a learning curve for me, I think It will fun project :)

Cheers Chris

[Chris72]

Here a pic of inside of cab
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/RCK-914/DSCF3331_zps1ca0d0b1.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

It looks pretty good base for a project, I am looking forward to seeing the process ad the final result :)

[Chris72]

Finally got it home now time to have a play, put a battery on it to see if there was any spark left in the old boy and to my surprise I got the starter motor to click, unfortunately as I thought the 186 motor is seized. but I recently sold my EH Holden minus the motor,now I have a rebuilt a Holden 149 bored out to a 155 ready to drop in. I need to get a book for the Landie as some of the wiring looks a little suspect and have noticed son more rust in the bulkhead near the drivers side vent flap, but overall it's not look to bad even got a spare wiper motor and wiper arms under the passengers seat, the dash gauges look in pretty good condition and there as are some other bits and pieces that look like they belong somewhere on the car. Well first thing will be to give it a good clean inside and out.
Cheers Chris

[Chris72]

Just a quick update, motor is out and I've been cleaning it up a bit, run out of degreaser and wd40 so will get some today and back into it. here are some pic's enjoy.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/RCK-914/DSCF3368.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/RCK-914/DSCF3367.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/RCK-914/DSCF3366.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/RCK-914/DSCF3365.jpg

Cheers Chris

[Landy Smurf]

what did you use on the gbox it looks great?

[Chris72]

hey Landy, just used degreaser and a pressure cleaner, there still some spots on there that didn't wash off, I still have to remove the seat box and give that a good clean under it. I've noticed the brake line aren't looking the best so will have to look at replacing them, anyone know what it will cost to remake the brake lines ? I'm going to pull the cab down and have a go at repairing the bulk head, but as you all know it takes time and money. Will try and get some more done over the next few day's will keep you all updated.

Cheers Chris

[Landy Smurf]

I cant remember how much they cost.repairing the bulkhead wont cost much. just keep thinking of it finished and how good it will be

[Chris72]

Yeah mate I hear ya, I'm looking forward to driving it, can't wait for that day. I still have wiring issues, it looks as if someone has done a bodgy job of it in the past, It really need a completely rewiring, not a big job as you know the wiring system on these old car is pretty basic, I'm thinking about replace all the light with led's as none of them are original anyway.

Cheers Chris

[Landy Smurf]

I would replace all the wiring if I was you

[Chris72]

I got a price off a local brake shop today, the guy quoted about $40 to bend up some new steel lines, a lot cheaper than I thought it might be. I didn't get a lot done on it today, managed to remove the the seat box and just cleaned up the rest of the gearbox, sprayed some rusty nuts and bolts will let that soak in, get the the cab and guards off then time to tackle the bulk head.

Cheers Chris

[Chris72]

The new motor is in :cool: , now I have hook up manifold, extractors, fuel line and see if the motor will start.

Cheers Chris

[Chris72]

The extractor wouldn't fit as the gearbox x member gets in the way, so I've gone with the original exhaust manifold and have been sorting out the carby for it most the afternoon. Was hoping to start it up today but no go, maybe tomorrow if I get time, I still have to put the radiator back in and then rewire the electric's, most of the original wiring has been hacked into :wasntme: so that's going to be fun sorting that out but that all part of owning a Landy from what I've been reading lol .

Cheers Chris

[wrinklearthur]

Hi Chris

With the exhaust pipe on a Holden into Land Rover conversion, you will have trouble with the engine pipe gasket blowing, because of the way the exhaust pipe swings in the chassis of a Land Rover.
I got around that problem by using a sturdy metal strap between the bend in the engine pipe and the closest one of the bolts on the flywheel housing.
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[wrinklearthur]

Watch out for the bottom radiator hose collapsing when the engine revs up,
I wound up a spring out of stainless steel wire and pushed that inside the hose.

Fixed the over heating problems on long runs at high revs by doing that and fitting a seven bladed fan from a EH that had a air conditioning kit fitted.

Also ran a 15 psi cap on a radiator that sat nicely in the cut out top of the cross member, I think that was a heavy duty radiator from a Mt Isa upgrade kit that used to be fitted into the later EH's and HR's that were sold in Mt Isa. Also the aircleaner from that kit was dual element, with the outer ring being a washable foam.
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