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Redback
12th January 2013, 03:58 PM
Firstly,

I had to hire a car trailer to recover our Daughters Amarok after she broke the right side strut on Lake Cobbler road, the trailer had LED lights and what I discovered was, one blinker won't work when you connect the trailer up to the D4, but, if you turn your headlights on, everything works perfectly:MileStone:

Secondly,

Coming home from Victoria in all this heat towing the camper (40deg today and yesterday) the D4 started losing power up hills, at first we thought maybe we got some bad fuel, but as we got closer to home and the outside temp started to drop(27deg near home) the power returned.

I have two large Lightforce spotties on the front and was thinking, could this be part of the problem:confused:

Baz.

Graeme
12th January 2013, 04:20 PM
My TD5 D2 would loose a lot of power on hot days until a larger I/C was fitted, indicating that the ecm logic of reducing power if the I/C didn't drop the inlet air temperature sufficiently was invoked. I removed the driving lights from the D4 for the summer because I also have insect mesh and didn't like the idea of having double restriction. The availability of some extra light in summer wasn't worth the risk of possibly damaging the engine, but I'll never know if removal was needed because I'll never test it.

Redback
12th January 2013, 04:36 PM
My TD5 D2 would loose a lot of power on hot days until a larger I/C was fitted, indicating that the ecm logic of reducing power if the I/C didn't drop the inlet air temperature sufficiently was invoked. I removed the driving lights from the D4 for the summer because I also have insect mesh and didn't like the idea of having double restriction. The availability of some extra light in summer wasn't worth the risk of possibly damaging the engine, but I'll never know if removal was needed because I'll never test it.

Thanks for your help today Graeme, Terry is well chuffed now:D

Baz.

Graeme
12th January 2013, 04:59 PM
Not a problem at all Baz but it was Kerry who did most of the helping. I was starting to wonder if the kit was ever going to be fitted. I'm jealous though of you lot's ability to get away so often.

TerryO
12th January 2013, 07:29 PM
The scary thing is here is Barry and I supposedly hands on kind of practical blokes and we had to get Kerry Bazza's wife to fit the Llams unit because we couldn't.

Mind you the bottle of Irish whiskey Barry and I consumed last night might have slowed us down a bit. That's the excuse I'm using anyway ...:(

Thanks Kerry for fitting the Llams and thanks Barry for assisting me with the Whiskey last night. ...;)

And thanks Graeme for the phone advice. ...:)

cheers,
Terry

Smokey2.8
12th January 2013, 08:09 PM
Welcome back Baz, what a epic holiday. Hope Ness is ok and didn't get to shaken up by the incident.

BTW
Isn't Smokey the only one allowed the get hot on the Hume?? LOL

Regs
Smokey

scarry
12th January 2013, 08:21 PM
Mine was showing 42/43 degrees outside air temp a few weeks ago,was not towing but had a bit of stuff on the roof, and had no problems.

What i did notice was the A/C was fantastic....:)

Baz,how did you go with the rims?

Family Traveller
12th January 2013, 08:31 PM
I learnt that if you want to travel north from Sydney to Brisbane any day after Christmas, don't bother (luckly I was south bound).
WOW what a line up, at least 20 mins of bumber to bumber traffic leading into Kempsey.
Hope everyone had safe and happy travels over the festive season.:D

AnD3rew
12th January 2013, 09:05 PM
I learnt that if you want to travel north from Sydney to Brisbane any day after Christmas, don't bother (luckly I was south bound).
WOW what a line up, at least 20 mins of bumber to bumber traffic leading into Kempsey.
Hope everyone had safe and happy travels over the festive season.:D

I always go New England. Much less stressful much less traffic much nicer drive.

Family Traveller
12th January 2013, 09:27 PM
The towns do my head in on the New England, however the road works on the Pacific are just as bad.... how long to complete a dual carriageway, it hasn't seem to change in the last 5 years.

jonesy63
12th January 2013, 09:37 PM
Hi Baz - out of interest... was it the left hand blinker light on the trailer that wasn't working? I noticed the same thing on my boat trailer.

I just got back home today after a couple of days at Stockton Beach. Temp was 40c this morning at Newcastle, along old hwy (as I haven't been on that road for 30+ years!), climbing to 43c just before Hornsby. My D4 was also sluggish off the mark at low speeds. I suspect this was heat soak while in traffic/lights ie. heating the intercooler. It was fine at highway speeds.

I did have some evil thoughts at the time about plumbing in some water tank, irrigation tubing and sprays - to mist water onto the intercooler. :angel: Hopefully there won't be too many days like that. :D

Cheers,
Rob

discotwinturbo
12th January 2013, 11:05 PM
That might be hot for the east :wasntme: but on New Year's Day driving home from Esperance outside temp (according to D4 display) hit 47. Car was fully loaded and with roof topper and big wheels.
Temp set as 24 and internal gauge showed 23.8....and around this all day. 110ish.
Friends Prado....had to turn aircon off as car was not coping. Friends patrol was fine, but no where near as cool inside.
My D4 just keeps making me smile!

Brett.....

LGM
12th January 2013, 11:09 PM
I don't know if this is related, but on a couple of occasions I had noticed reduced performance in my 3.0L D4 HSE. Once on the highway when using slight throttle changes and the other moving out from a kerb between parked cars, again with a very light throttle setting. Took the D4 to my local service agent (Whyatts in Geraldton) and after some searching the LR systems and I think discussion with LR in Sydney they have replaced 5 small 'T' pipe junction pieces (on the vacuum system? something to do with the twin turbo setup?).

I do note that only the second problem happened on what was a very very hot day!

Anyhow it seems to me that the D4 now drives more smoothly and I have not had a reoccurence of the problem.

Lindsay

OzAd4x4
12th January 2013, 11:15 PM
The New England is my preference too and I normally like to do it through the night which means no traffic but thankful for the bar work!

Incidentally I always use more fuel on the New England despite the lower speed limit - I think it is because it is a bit more mountainous terrain...


I always go New England. Much less stressful much less traffic much nicer drive.

Redback
13th January 2013, 08:06 AM
Welcome back Baz, what a epic holiday. Hope Ness is ok and didn't get to shaken up by the incident.

BTW
Isn't Smokey the only one allowed the get hot on the Hume?? LOL

Regs
Smokey

Yes Adam, Ness is good, just a minor annoyance, as for the D4, very odd as it was going fine on all the other hot days.

I'll give you a bell soon.


Mine was showing 42/43 degrees outside air temp a few weeks ago,was not towing but had a bit of stuff on the roof, and had no problems.

What i did notice was the A/C was fantastic....:)

Baz,how did you go with the rims?

A/C was fine and working well inside the car, actually we had to turn the temp up to stop from freezing too death;)

I haven't done anything with the rims as yet, just waiting on some others.


Hi Baz - out of interest... was it the left hand blinker light on the trailer that wasn't working? I noticed the same thing on my boat trailer.

I just got back home today after a couple of days at Stockton Beach. Temp was 40c this morning at Newcastle, along old hwy (as I haven't been on that road for 30+ years!), climbing to 43c just before Hornsby. My D4 was also sluggish off the mark at low speeds. I suspect this was heat soak while in traffic/lights ie. heating the intercooler. It was fine at highway speeds.

I did have some evil thoughts at the time about plumbing in some water tank, irrigation tubing and sprays - to mist water onto the intercooler. :angel: Hopefully there won't be too many days like that. :D

Cheers,
Rob

Yes Rob, left blinker, turned the lights on and bingo all working great, it is great to know this, as we were going to get some LEDs for the camper.


I suspect the spotties have some bearing on this with the car loaded and towing the camper in very high temps, I also suspect an MAF fault logged in the system could be part of the problem as well and may even be why we have had some fuel economy problems as well, although we averaged 14 to 15l/100k on the way home towing the camper, even when it was struggling up the steeper hills.

Thanks all

Baz.