LED Light Bars?

[technophile]

]Hey all,

Looking at getting a light bar for my TD5. In particular i am looking at getting it from Lifetime LED in America, has anybody heard or know anything about them.

Looking at this one (Spot) http://www.lifetimeledlights.com/225-120w-CREE-_p_23.html

and

this one (Combo) http://www.lifetimeledlights.com/50-100-LED-bar-_p_17.html

My question are:

Who has them and what type and in what combination?

Where and how did you mount it, i.e. roof or bullbar? Also if on the roof, where did you route the wires?

And can a light bar really have a long distance beam to replace a spottie?

Pictures would also be good.

thanks

[Disco Muppet]

Some people drill holes in the roof for the wires, some run them down the snorkel either inside or outside.
Light bars don't project like spotties, but offer a greater spread of light immediately in front of you.
Spotties are generally better for high speed highway driving, LED light bars make it day for about 30m in front of you, great for picking lines at night or bush bashing.

[Didge]

I'm glad you posted. I've been in contact with a "supplier" from China who will supply me at "special prices" if I buy 30 pieces or spend $3000, which would mean a group buy. The price you have quoted is pretty good but the output in lumens could be slightly better. That said, I might go with your supplier myself as I won't have to organize a group buy which would mean I pay slightly more to get a slightly better light output.
have a read of this forum:
What's the Skinny with Epistar LEDs??? (http://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/551931-whats-skinny-epistar-leds.html)

Makes you wonder :)

[technophile]

I'm glad you posted. I've been in contact with a "supplier" from China who will supply me at "special prices" if I buy 30 pieces or spend $3000, which would mean a group buy. The price you have quoted is pretty good but the output in lumens could be slightly better. That said, I might go with your supplier myself as I won't have to organize a group buy which would mean I pay slightly more to get a slightly better light output.
have a read of this forum:
What's the Skinny with Epistar LEDs??? (http://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/551931-whats-skinny-epistar-leds.html)

Makes you wonder :)

PM Sent

[goingbush]

LED light bar good for 80m (not 30m) at about 120 deg,

mine is a el cheapo chinese ebay Light bar and could not be happier, about 12 months old, $240 from memory.

unlike spotties you can actually see the which way the roos on the sides of the road are heading

mounted on the existing ARB bar spotty brackets


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/846.jpg

[Didge]

Hi goingbush, that's nice to hear about the performance; always a bit of a gamble buying from fleabay. BTW, can you tell us about your interesting headlights ?
cheers gerald
ps looking at your vents and hinges, etc your car looks like a very tidy rig.

[Reads90]

LED light bar good for 80m (not 30m) at about 120 deg,

mine is a el cheapo chinese ebay Light bar and could not be happier, about 12 months old, $240 from memory.

unlike spotties you can actually see the which way the roos on the sides of the road are heading

mounted on the existing ARB bar spotty brackets


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/846.jpg

I have the same on my 110 and love them.
They have come down a bit since I bought them last I saw the other day they were $169 delivered on eBay. Great light for the money.

Ali

[Bushie]

This mob are getting some reasonable reports as well,

https://www.facebook.com/LedLightingSouthAustralia

Saw a lightbar in action for the first time the other weekend - must say impressed by the light output, certainly filled the intermediate area between driving and headlights.


Martyn

[bj4x4]

wrong threaD!!!

[spudboy]

....
have a read of this forum:
What's the Skinny with Epistar LEDs??? (http://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/551931-whats-skinny-epistar-leds.html)

Makes you wonder :)

That was an interesting link, with posters like GanjaSmoker and ForeverFlyHi!! Guess it's another use for LED lightbars though :D

[Didge]

Haha yeah, makes our usernames look boring, eh?!

[Didge]

Yeah Martyn, they look like pretty good prices as well; I was talking to a supplier who was only supplying to me (as a middleman) for around the same $$$. Thanks :)

[goingbush]

Hi goingbush, that's nice to hear about the performance; always a bit of a gamble buying from fleabay. BTW, can you tell us about your interesting headlights ?
cheers gerald
ps looking at your vents and hinges, etc your car looks like a very tidy rig.

The headlights are TruckLite LED's ( Phase 5 NLA - superseded by Phase 6 & 7)

(The shot was just after a wash, hence good looking vents & hinges, fairly infrequent washing at the moment)

heres an interesting angle from the other day, you can see the individual LED elements of the headlight, only the top half is on for low beam (5x3w), the whole headlight is on for high beam. low beam = 15w high beam =30w

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/828.jpg


some comparos below, the horizontal fence at the end of the driveway & over the road is 80m away.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/829.jpg

[Didge]

Wow goingbush, that's impressive, I don't think my high beam is as good as the TL4 low beam. Do you mind if I ask how much they are, where you got them and what size led bar you have? I have a couple of rusty old spotties at the moment I was thinking of replacing with a candle.
cheers Gerald

[LoveB]

going bush and reads can you please direct me to where you got the led bar? keen on a bar and trucklites as I do quite a lot of highway kms at night. I understand spotties throw light out further but on the road I think I need the spread more to see the sides of the road than whats far ahead.

[goingbush]

going bush and reads can you please direct me to where you got the led bar? keen on a bar and trucklites as I do quite a lot of highway kms at night. I understand spotties throw light out further but on the road I think I need the spread more to see the sides of the road than whats far ahead.

Ebay seller I bought from has vanished, but light identical to this one

120W 24inch 12V 24V LED Light BAR Flood Spot Alloy Work Lamp Offroad Alloy 4WD | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120W-24inch-12v-24v-LED-light-bar-Flood-Spot-Alloy-work-lamp-offroad-alloy-4WD-/271115782807?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1fc28a97&_uhb=1)

I got the Trucklites from Ebay USA ebay.com $290 the pair (obsolete stock) and mail forwarded via a 3rd party shipper for $90
TL5 no longer available, Phase 6 are better on low beam but $200 each here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trucklite-LED-Headlight-7-Round-Truck-lite-LED-Headlamp-Brand-New-/271113185541?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1f9ae905&vxp=mtr

may not be strictly legal here as they dip straight ahead instead of to the left, but as you can see from the compare shots it makes no difference, you can still see more to the left on low than standard left dipping H4's. Ive never been flashed by oncoming drivers, unlike HID's they don't blind you.

[chook73]

Here are the newer trucklites

Truck-Lite - Catalog Product : 7'' Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design (http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=92025&langId=-1)

Truck-Lite 27270C 7" Round LED Headlamp **This is one lamp, price is per unit** : Amazon.com : Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Truck-Lite-27270C-Round-Headlamp-price/dp/B007K8AA7I)

SET OF 2 Truck-Lite 7'' Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design Phase 7 27270C (http://www.discountfleetsupply.com/tlc27270c-p.html)

And a good review/comparison, by this I actually prefer the TLv6

27270C | Better Automotive Lighting Blog (http://betterautomotivelighting.com/tag/27270c/)

[nedflanders]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

50" from Tigerz11 mounted under roof rack, instant daylight :cool:

[LoveB]

Is there anyway for me to mount the bar on the roof on top of the windshield if i dont have a rack??

btw how much was the tigerz11 one? on their site its at 799 now

[ProjectDirector]

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/9347/p1010051z.jpg

50" from Tigerz11 mounted under roof rack, instant daylight :cool:

Ned, off topic but what Tyres are you running?

[ProjectDirector]

Is there anyway for me to mount the bar on the roof on top of the windshield if i dont have a rack??

btw how much was the tigerz11 one? on their site its at 799 now

The easiest way is to buy a roof bar and attach it on that.

[Kevdrover]

Hi Guys,
I run a 40" unit from China on the roof rack. It produces 200w @ 21600 Lms. Daylight for 300m. Light to maybe 500m?? I have 2 x 9" halogen 100w spots on the bull bar, cannot see if they are on or off. I am going to fit another set of HID 55w 9" spot to replace the halogen's. The light from the LED bars is perfectly white. As someone mentioned, you can see which way the roo is going to move before it does. They are that good that you can almost see far enough ahead to see Saturday nights Lotto numbers ;)
Reflection is one of the biggest problems, not just from your bonnet or bullbar, the road signs can be blinding.

[LoveB]

The easiest way is to buy a roof bar and attach it on that.



no plans on a rack for now though.. specially since ive got the sunroof.

was thinking something that attatches to gutter and sticks out forward so i can mount the led bar to it

[ProjectDirector]

no plans on a rack for now though.. specially since ive got the sunroof.

was thinking something that attatches to gutter and sticks out forward so i can mount the led bar to it

Yes a roof rail clamp is the way to go. Do you have any Roof rack manufacturers locally, they can provide you with a solution like that.

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[Bush65]

no plans on a rack for now though.. specially since ive got the sunroof.

was thinking something that attatches to gutter and sticks out forward so i can mount the led bar to it
The dissadvantage with mounting like that is reflection from your bonnet and bull bar. The glare will drive you mad - not worth it IMHO.

By mounting them further back, you can set them up so the shadow from the front edge of the roof stops/minimises the glare from the bonnet and bar - much betterer ;)

[ProjectDirector]

The dissadvantage with mounting like that is reflection from your bonnet and bull bar. The glare will drive you mad - not worth it IMHO.

By mounting them further back, you can set them up so the shadow from the front edge of the roof stops/minimises the glare from the bonnet and bar - much betterer ;)

Well, a roof bar will do the job just fine, you can set it behind the sunroof. I think this is the easiest solution.
I am picking up my new 110 in 10 days and will not spend $2k yet on roof rack but will pick up a roof bar so I can mount the LED bar as a temp solution.

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[chook73]

no plans on a rack for now though.. specially since ive got the sunroof.

was thinking something that attatches to gutter and sticks out forward so i can mount the led bar to it

Like this?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/749.jpg

I have mine a fair way forward and I dont find the glare from the bonnet to be too bad although now it has been mentioned I probably will :angrylock:

[LoveB]

yes, like that. Maybe I'll move it a bit further back? just before the sunroof or something

[goingbush]

Chook, that's a neat bar, whats its called & where did you get it.
also how does it attach ???

I generally don't like roof bars, but that one actually looks good.

[Disco Muppet]

Chook, that's a neat bar, whats its called & where did you get it.
also how does it attach ???

I generally don't like roof bars, but that one actually looks good.

Chook has a roof width LED bar on his roof rack AFAIK.
Looks quite similar to the one JohnR has, perhaps he knows?

EDIT.
Don, it looks almost the same as this on here ;)
http://www.firstfour.co.uk/item/2129267/defender-shadow-light-bar-with-halogen-driving-lights--bolt-fitting-

[Iain_B]

I bought a pair of the 10" Baja Design Stealth lights, mounted them on the roll cage roof light mounts - perfect fit.

They are very good - get a bit of reflection from the two aerials, but they light up the 40-50m in front very well, and the added height is great for seeing the holes and dips.

60373

60374

[Tombie]

going bush and reads can you please direct me to where you got the led bar? keen on a bar and trucklites as I do quite a lot of highway kms at night. I understand spotties throw light out further but on the road I think I need the spread more to see the sides of the road than whats far ahead.

On the highway you'd need both.
80mtrs is not far enough at highway speeds - you're out driving the lights...

[Tombie]

And guys - lumen output from the emitters is *theoretical* output..

Not actual output.

Just keep that in mind.

Thermal management is far more important.

[nedflanders]

Ned, off topic but what Tyres are you running?

Cooper ST Maxx, love em and will be replacing them for like when they wear out :D

[chook73]

Chook, that's a neat bar, whats its called & where did you get it.
also how does it attach ???

I generally don't like roof bars, but that one actually looks good.

I am not sure, I saw it on a website a long time ago before I got the full length rack but I was never able to find who sold it from memory.

I do like the look of it and was planning to make one up myself but then I got the full length rack.......

[technophile]

So far the only thing stopping me from purchasing from the US is the postage. As they don't usually ship to Australia, i have been quoted $350 to send the 50" light bar here :o

Does anybody know of a company or of a cheaper option for shipping?

Also what is the threshold for when import tax has to be payed and are there any "special" things that can be done to avoid this if the order is for more then one person?

Thanks

[ProjectDirector]

So far the only thing stopping me from purchasing from the US is the postage. As they don't usually ship to Australia, i have been quoted $350 to send the 50" light bar here :o

Does anybody know of a company or of a cheaper option for shipping?

Also what is the threshold for when import tax has to be payed and are there any "special" things that can be done to avoid this if the order is for more then one person?

Thanks

How about this? they are located in Melbourne
50inch 288W Cree LED Work Light BAR Flood Spot Offroad 4WD Seckil 120W 180W 240W | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50INCH-288W-CREE-LED-WORK-LIGHT-BAR-FLOOD-SPOT-OFFROAD-4WD-SECKIL-120W-180W-240W-/261204984252?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd107c1bc)

[goingbush]

So far the only thing stopping me from purchasing from the US is the postage. As they don't usually ship to Australia, i have been quoted $350 to send the 50" light bar here :o

Does anybody know of a company or of a cheaper option for shipping?

Also what is the threshold for when import tax has to be payed and are there any "special" things that can be done to avoid this if the order is for more then one person?

Thanks

$1000 is the tax threshold

www.bongous.com are mail forwarders they give you a USA address to get your items sent to, then they will hold, consolidate & repackage then forward it to you via DHL at cheaper rates

[digger]

maybe check this mob out (includes postage quite often!!)

this is looking for 22.5" 120w cree

Wholesale 22.5" 120w cree - Buy Low Price 22.5" 120w cree Lots on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=22.5%22+120w+cree&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20130514013516)

These are often the cheaper site for stuff sold by the same people for more on other sites. (not specifically mentioning ebay...ooops ... damn...)

main difference is in a lot of cases you are dealing direct with the manufacturer.. worth a look about but be aware of two things

Price per piece or per lot...check it
postage ... free or generally exobident!!

All the cars Ive seen with light bars in the far north of SA have them to compliment spots not replace them, but set them so they can switch one or both off individually.
cheers

[technophile]

maybe check this mob out (includes postage quite often!!)

this is looking for 22.5" 120w cree

Wholesale 22.5" 120w cree - Buy Low Price 22.5" 120w cree Lots on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=22.5%22+120w+cree&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20130514013516)

These are often the cheaper site for stuff sold by the same people for more on other sites. (not specifically mentioning ebay...ooops ... damn...)

main difference is in a lot of cases you are dealing direct with the manufacturer.. worth a look about but be aware of two things

Price per piece or per lot...check it
postage ... free or generally exobident!!

All the cars Ive seen with light bars in the far north of SA have them to compliment spots not replace them, but set them so they can switch one or both off individually.
cheers

Given that shipping from America to Australia can be upwards of $100 for these light bars, how can these companies afford to give free shipping?

[joel0407]

Given that shipping from America to Australia can be upwards of $100 for these light bars, how can these companies afford to give free shipping?


Shipping $100? These guys dont use Auspost. i had a whole tow bar shipped from the UK for under $100. Austpost are the biggest rip offs in the world.

Aus retails dont just get screwed with GST and the like from goverment charges but they get screwed again with freight.

I'm in Darwin now and even in Canberra, it costs about a quarter the cost to get things sent from OS then it does from Sydney.

Thing is the stuff still arrives in Sydney and gets delivered to me by Auspost. WTF.

Parel tracking is another thing. From OS you get a couple of updates per day. The time it's picked up, the time it reaches the Depot, the time it leaves the Depot, what plane it's on etc. Then it hits Aus and disappears until it hits your door.

AUSPOST, YOU SUCK.

Buy OS. AUS retailers, tell your goverment, not me. I'd love to buy from you but I cant afford you.

Happy Days.

[digger]

Given that shipping from America to Australia can be upwards of $100 for these light bars, how can these companies afford to give free shipping?

Honestly I do not know, but I also dont care!

The few things Ive bought from aliexpress have been as advertised and arrived aac, so I'm still a fan! (including a remote model helicopter for the lad that cost $0.01 (incl postage!) :)
the transaction cost more than the item :P

[Loubrey]

Chook, that's a neat bar, whats its called & where did you get it.
also how does it attach ???

I generally don't like roof bars, but that one actually looks good.

goingbush,

I've seen a roof bar like that at Rovacraft here in Perth. If they stock it its most probably Britpart, Allmakes 4X4 or Terrafirma and all the branches nationwide should stock it.

Cheers,

Lou

[technophile]

$1000 is the tax threshold

Who determines the cost?

For example if an item is worth $1100, but i have purchased it at a discount so i paid, say, $800 for it?

[Ancient Mariner]

The retailer puts the invoice cost on the shipment including postage if this is more than $1000 you get to make a donation to the Gov:mad: if under $1000 including postage you win:D

[sheerluck]

The retailer puts the invoice cost on the shipment including postage if this is more than $1000 you get to make a donation to the Gov:mad: if under $1000 including postage you win:D

Not quite correct. If the goods value is less than $1000 then no donation to the W.Swan fighting fund is necessary. If the value of your goods exceeds $1000 then your donation is based on the value of the goods plus the shipping cost.

[First90]

If the value of your goods exceeds $1000 then your donation is based on the value of the goods plus the shipping cost.

The GST is also paid on the Duty which is another 5% of the goods value and you will also be hit with some "other charges" to cover the handling or whatever. I would have thought that taxes should also cover the cost of collecting them but aparently not.

When buying over the internet (http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp#ImportedGoods)

[Bushie]

The GST is also paid on the Duty which is another 5% of the goods value and you will also be hit with some "other charges" to cover the handling or whatever. I would have thought that taxes should also cover the cost of collecting them but aparently not.

When buying over the internet (http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp#ImportedGoods)

Depends whether they choose to collect the duty etc.
I've bought things in that have been around the $1400 mark and have not had to pay duty/GST etc, Christmas seems to be a good time to buy from O/S (maybe too busy)

Martyn

[GyroLandy]

I see Tigerz11 has some good deals on LED Bars at the moment

[Disco Muppet]

I see Tigerz11 has some good deals on LED Bars at the moment

Ahh, but do you really trust Tigerz products anymore?

[GyroLandy]

Disco Muppet, never had any why don't you trust them?

[Disco Muppet]

Well, put it this way.
I've got a Tigerz winch, hasn't died yet.
Local Opposite Lock store, who I trust, haven't installed one that has worked out of the box.
They're absolutely shocking to deal with customer service wise, lots of their products are cheap ****.
Haven't heard much about their light bars, but I know similar lights that have died within 2 weeks of light highway use.
If they die, don't even bother trying to get warranty, just chuck it in the bin and move on.
It's a pity, their gear was quite good early on, but it's taken a serious nose dive lately it seems.

[chook73]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/1414.jpg

This is what my Tigerz 11 winch solenoid looked like after just 8 months on the front of my car.....

Because it had been pulled apart apparently it was my fault it didn't seal properly and wasn't covered under warranty.

Having never pulled it apart until this photo was taken I don't understand how it could be my fault it didn't seal but it leaves me wondering how their lightbars seal......

You get what you pay for, I bought a cheap winch and got a cheap winch..... I would suggest if you buy a cheap light bar you will get a cheap light bar but dont expect miracles.....

[boofdtl]

I run the ironman 30inch light bar on mine and love the light it puts out for the people going on the night drive in the wombat at the end of the mth can see it and they are at a good price as well i sell a heap of them at work...

[Chilly]

Ahh, but do you really trust Tiger products anymore?

NO!

Everything I have purchased from Tiger has arrived damaged or broken...and they have not covered / refunded / replaced etc etc those items...will nver buy from them again or recommend them!

Shame as they did have a good reputation but seems now they are bigger and selling / flooding the market and making /made money their quality control / standards have gone out of the window...

[Disco Muppet]

NO!

Everything I have purchased from Tiger has arrived damaged or broken...and they have not covered / refunded / replaced etc etc those items...will nver buy from them again or recommend them!

Shame as they did have a good reputation but seems now they are bigger and selling / flooding the market and making /made money their quality control / standards have gone out of the window...

They've been banned from the Melbourne 4WD show :D
Honestly, if I didn't vow never to pull the damn thing off I'd turf it. It's not something I want to rely on, and the only regret I have in setting up my rig.

[Reads90]

NO!

Everything I have purchased from Tiger has arrived damaged or broken...and they have not covered / refunded / replaced etc etc those items...will nver buy from them again or recommend them!

Shame as they did have a good reputation but seems now they are bigger and selling / flooding the market and making /made money their quality control / standards have gone out of the window...

Sound like they are the Australian version of Scorpion Racing that used to be in the uk.

Or scrap iron racing as they ended up being called


There is always a reason they are cheap and that is because it is crap

[frantic]

Given that shipping from America to Australia can be upwards of $100 for these light bars, how can these companies afford to give free shipping?

A LOT of stuff exported from china is subject to "export incentives" so they may get the cost of their transport covered if its bringing in foreign cash.;) that's why they lost their dumping case against bsl. Their steel was selling here under raw material costs.

[Bushie]

Fitted and wired up the lightbar today, took it for a spin tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-AyuY6oj0

Martyn

[flagg]

Fitted and wired up the lightbar today, took it for a spin tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-AyuY6oj0

Martyn

Wow Martyn that is very impressive - much higher output than I expected. Do you find the signs are too bright?

[LoveB]

Martyn is that the one from led lighting SA?


if so I might order the 288W one.

[chook73]

Fitted and wired up the lightbar today, took it for a spin tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-AyuY6oj0

Martyn

Looks good Martyn, out of interest what dashcam is that?

[Toppa]

"out of interest what dashcam is that?"

Looks like a blackvue to me.

[Bushie]

Wow Martyn that is very impressive - much higher output than I expected. Do you find the signs are too bright?

Actually quite surprised the signs didn't worry me at all, less than the normal driving light combo, but also aware the bar is probably aimed a tad low at the moment.


Martyn is that the one from led lighting SA?

if so I might order the 288W one.

Yes - delivered within 3 days. I also bought a couple of 15w lights ($65 for the pair) to use as reversing lights. Saw exactly the same lights in Autobarn over the weekend advertised at $89.95 ea


Looks good Martyn, out of interest what dashcam is that?

Dashcam is a Blackvue DR400-HD II


Martyn

[Albert]

I have put on a 20", 120W and would be very happy with it - if it did't mess with my FM reception:mad: It will probaly get better when I run the earth lead back to the battery.
I also have upgraded loom and bulbs + lightforce 240 spotties. The bar makes a big differnece.
Mine run 3W CREE leds, I see these are now old. Latest is 10W CREE leds.
If a cheap light bar fails after a while its not the end of the world; If a winch fails when you need it, it might be the end.
Single row LED light bars with 10watt CREE LED chip (BCS-series):
ITEM NR LENGTH
(INCH) POWER
(WATT) LUMENS
(LM) PRICES (USD)
1-20pcs mix 21-100pcs mix >100pcs
16.5" 60w 5400lm $74.00 $68.00 Nigotiable
23.5" 100w 9000lm $124.00 $113.00 Nigotiable
30.5" 140w 12600lm $174.00 $159.00 Nigotiable
42.5" 200w 18000lm $248.00 $226.00 Nigotiable
52" 240w 21600lm $298.00 $271.00
sales8@hanma-auto.com (no recommendation, just info)

[isuzurover]

Martyn is that the one from led lighting SA?


if so I might order the 288W one.

Link?

[Bushie]

I have put on a 20", 120W and would be very happy with it - if it did't mess with my FM reception:mad:

Must admit that could be a problem, there is a fair bit of noise through the radio. I have the earth back to the battery, so that's unlikely to cure the noise. Will have to try some other suppression, but I suspect it will be RFI from the electronics in the light itself rather than feeding back through the power.

SA LED lighting & accessories (https://www.facebook.com/LedLightingSouthAustralia)


Martyn

[Tombie]

Must admit that could be a problem, there is a fair bit of noise through the radio. I have the earth back to the battery, so that's unlikely to cure the noise. Will have to try some other suppression, but I suspect it will be RFI from the electronics in the light itself rather than feeding back through the power.

SA LED lighting & accessories (https://www.facebook.com/LedLightingSouthAustralia)


Martyn

Noise (RF) is a concern!

Couldn't handle that...

[goingbush]

I dont get any RF Interference at all AM or FM or UHF CB with my LED Light Bar , LED Headlights or any other stuff on my Td5 110, tho I do have very good earthing, everywhere , (almost like a farady cage)

I've heard that Td5 electronics play havoc with HF radios, (RFDS etc) but I have a wideband RFI detector (radiodetection locator) and it didnt register anything when inside

so I'd suggest look at extra earthing, esp btwn body & chassis, multiple locations.
you might think that the fact that the body is bolted to the chassis it would be a good earth. if youve ever pulled apart a Landrover you would have noticed the white residue that forms btwn the metal parts, thats aluminium oxide, (caused by electrolysis and exaccerbated if you ever been near salt water) and its a very good electrical insulator and is the root cause of many LR electrical faults

[joel0407]

Pretty much guaratee the RF noise is from the HID Ballist, not the LED.

Happy Days.

[MTB]

chook73

Your photo of the controller had me worried as I bought one of these Tigerz11 winches as well; I installed the controller in a vulnerable spot - inside the bull bar. The winch has now been in for 15 month and done dozens of water crossings.
I opened up the control box on the weekend, photo below, looks like brand new, not a mark inside.
I lubeed up the seals, put it all back together, smudged some silicon on the outside - all good.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/1362.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/1414.jpg

This is what my Tigerz 11 winch solenoid looked like after just 8 months on the front of my car.....

Because it had been pulled apart apparently it was my fault it didn't seal properly and wasn't covered under warranty.

Having never pulled it apart until this photo was taken I don't understand how it could be my fault it didn't seal but it leaves me wondering how their lightbars seal......

You get what you pay for, I bought a cheap winch and got a cheap winch..... I would suggest if you buy a cheap light bar you will get a cheap light bar but dont expect miracles.....

[schuy1]

Pretty much guaratee the RF noise is from the HID Ballist, not the LED.

Happy Days.
Yes, You are spot on the money there. The chinese ballasts have very bad shielding for the most part. I have HID's in the defender heads and in the Cibies. On low beam there is no interference but on hi all hell breaks loose with the radio! :eek: It is irrelevant if I turn the spots off as it seems to be in the hi beam of the heads ballasts. No amount of earthing will alter it. The HID spotties on the TD5 cause no such probs. Another reason not to have hid mains! Maybe? :p.
However the electronic controllers in LED lights can do the same if they have poor shielding or crappy components in them.
Cheers Scott

[chook73]

chook73

Your photo of the controller had me worried as I bought one of these Tigerz11 winches as well; I installed the controller in a vulnerable spot - inside the bull bar. The winch has now been in for 15 month and done dozens of water crossings.
I opened up the control box on the weekend, photo below, looks like brand new, not a mark inside.
I lubeed up the seals, put it all back together, smudged some silicon on the outside - all good.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mtb-albums-stuff-picture4368-winch-controller.jpeg

Wow hard to believe they are the same thing.......