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123rover50
20th May 2013, 10:46 AM
Can anyone show me a pic or describe where the horn goes on an 86".
The books just say the front crossmember but not where or how.
Thanks.
Keith
Killer
20th May 2013, 11:04 AM
The ones I have seen have the horn hanging down from the underside of the bonnet.
Cheers, Mick.
russellrovers
20th May 2013, 12:29 PM
Can anyone show me a pic or describe where the horn goes on an 86".
The books just say the front crossmember but not where or how.
Thanks.
Keith
it bolts on the inside of the front panel on the nearside jim
wrinklearthur
20th May 2013, 01:12 PM
Hi Keith
Don't take any notice of any of them ! :p
If you look on top of the plate that blanks off the hole where the steering relay would be if it was built LHD, see if it has a threaded hole in the plate.
That's where the horn was on all the 86" Landy's that I have had anything to do with and the horn was the type that had the vibrating disk, without any trumpet.
The sound of that horn is the true voice of a 86".
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russellrovers
20th May 2013, 01:27 PM
The ones I have seen have the horn hanging down from the underside of the bonnet.
Cheers, Mick.that is for the 88 and 109 jim
B.S.F.
20th May 2013, 02:09 PM
Hi Keith
Don't take any notice of any of them ! :p
If you look on top of the plate that blanks off the hole where the steering relay would be if it was built LHD, see if it has a threaded hole in the plate.
That's where the horn was on all the 86" Landy's that I have had anything to do with and the horn was the type that had the vibrating disk, without any trumpet.
The sound of that horn is the true voice of a 86".
.
That's where it is on my 54/86. .W.
Killer
20th May 2013, 03:28 PM
that is for the 88 and 109 jim
Sorry, I should stop posting about stuff I know nothing about.:eek::D
Cheers, Mick.
123rover50
20th May 2013, 04:13 PM
Thats good, I wondered what that hole was for.
This is what I call the 4 hole 86". (Holes for tow plate)
The first chassis I was going to use,( 6 hole), also has the bolt hole in the relay blank plate but another 6 hole 86" chassis has not so I wonder where that horn goes.
brendanm
20th May 2013, 04:55 PM
I think most people are right as there are differences across the 86" depending on production. I have been cannibalising 2 then 3, 86" to make one good one. On a very original 86 the horn was bolted to the underside of the radiator support panel. The others have the hole in the blanked off relay and were mounted to the chassis.
gromit
20th May 2013, 05:18 PM
My 86" is on the underside of the bonnet (1956).
An 86" I parted out had it on the crossmember (1955).
1956 86" Original mounted under the bonnet and a 'spare' now disconnected.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/217.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/cradley/media/Series%201%20with%20Welder/DSCF5242_zps4b581a38.jpg.html)
Colin
Landy Smurf
20th May 2013, 05:25 PM
I know the horn you guys are talking about and where it goes.
But can someone find it in a manual?
The s1 manual I have shows the other type
actually no i dont know the horn I was thinking another horn.
Nothing to see here folks move along....
wrinklearthur
20th May 2013, 05:34 PM
Sorry, I should stop posting about stuff I know nothing about.:eek::D
Cheers, Mick.
Hey Mick
Keep going with your postings, you could have been right.
Anyway it raises the bar a bit higher.
.
Heley
21st May 2013, 09:38 AM
I have two 86" Land Rovers that were both built in the 1956 model year. The first (177600084) has the horn located on the front cross member and the later one (177601341) has the horn mounted underneath the bonnet on the passenger side.
I suspect the change in horn location may have occurred when the front radiator grille changed from aluminium to steel, which is what happened towards the end of 86" production.
scarry
21st May 2013, 12:32 PM
The sound of that horn is the true voice of a 86".
.
We had a pet bird when we were kids that used to imitate that S1 horn :o
Hangs from the bonnet on my brothers '56 S1 as it has since the day it left the factory.
123rover50
21st May 2013, 03:36 PM
I have two 86" Land Rovers that were both built in the 1956 model year. The first (177600084) has the horn located on the front cross member and the later one (177601341) has the horn mounted underneath the bonnet on the passenger side.
I suspect the change in horn location may have occurred when the front radiator grille changed from aluminium to steel, which is what happened towards the end of 86" production.
I think you have the answer there. The second 86" chassis I cant read the number but they would stop putting the hole in the plate when they moved the horn to the bonnet.
So we cant say Killer was completely wrong can we:D
Keith
gromit
21st May 2013, 05:07 PM
My '56 has the steel front panel, horn under the bonnet but a tapped hole in the chassis for a horn mounting.
The chassis is also body coloured which I'm told is categorically incorrect for 1956.
Did CKD lead to some strange combinations by using what was available ?
Colin
Heley
21st May 2013, 06:48 PM
Body coloured chassis were supposedly only on 54 models, is your chassis the original? Maybe your chassis is from a 54 which would explain the hole for the mounting of the horn on the front crossmember.
However I think you ask a valid question in that there are some strange CKD combinations out there.
gromit
21st May 2013, 08:01 PM
The early chassis' were kit form on CKD models to Australia but I'm not sure when this stopped
I know someone who worked at Regent Motors who welded the crossmembers to the chassis side rails. Would this mean that the chassis was painted in Australia or did they come in painted and they just touched up the weld areas ?
Colin
mfc
21st May 2013, 10:17 PM
my 55 86 its where the steering relay would be on a lhd car {plate welded over relay hole with threaded hole in it
i guess it depends on what horn is used as the larger trumphet type horn wouldent fit where the clear hooter one dose.
regards mark
ps i recon the horns in front of the grill are far more succeptable to weather damage perhaps thats a reason to move them..just a thought
Idaho
22nd May 2013, 05:25 AM
I always thought that the horns should go in front of the grill. Here's how we mount them in Texas...
123rover50
22nd May 2013, 05:53 AM
Now thats a horn:o
With that mounted you dont need one of the others.
Do you have a boot with the thutty thutty in it as well:D
Keith
wrinklearthur
22nd May 2013, 09:30 AM
Do you have a boot with the thutty thutty in it as well.
I didn't know that term so I Googled it.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=60811&stc=1&d=1369182343
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123rover50
22nd May 2013, 10:32 AM
Thats it. The good ol Winchester 94:D
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