leveling a defender puma

[Aaron]

I want to level out the front of my 110.

With my TD5 the thing to do was fit 130 front springs. Is this still the case?

With the slight lift would I need to fit a double cardan joint?

[RVR110]

I had genuine Land Rover HD springs fitted to the front of my puma to handle the 140Kg weight of the bull bar and winch. Since they are genuine springs factory designed for the vehicle there was no need for a double cardan joint.

[goingbush]

no, Td5 110 propshaft is good for up to 2" lift,
its only the Pumas that run into trouble when you lift them because the motor/gbox/tcase is all on uphill and canted over angle

any lift on a puma and you run into trouble

that said I had 130 front springs on mine (with bar and winch) and found it too stiff. King standards are just right (for me)

[Aaron]

That's what concerns me. From my understanding the front of most Pumas aren't sagged its just how they come. So when I fit new springs its going to raise the front 1-2 inches.

[labrado]

Hi Aaron,
Sorry to off the topic of this thread, I happened to come across another thread you posted regarding greasing the propshaft. Have you found the grease nipples for sliding splines? I can't find them on my 2.4 puma.:(

Thanks.
Wei

[Aaron]

That would have been me posting with my old TD5.

Are you talking about the nipple on the shaft itself?

[Aaron]

Give this a crack! Hope you get greasy nipples soon.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/117740-just-defender-bad-quality-2.html#post1376814

[labrado]

That would have been me posting with my old TD5.

Are you talking about the nipple on the shaft itself?

Oh, I thought you were talking about 2012 puma defender. Just re-read the post, it was a 02 one.

yup, I suppose there's a nipple(other than the 2 in u-joints) for greasing the sliding splines on each shaft, but can't find it.

[BigJon]

yup, I suppose there's a nipple(other than the 2 in u-joints) for greasing the sliding splines on each shaft, but can't find it.

There might be a small bolt in the nipple hole. Remove the bolt and fit a nipple, then grease to your hearts content.

[Scallops]

I've just had King springs (one of the 110 types) fitted to my 07 Aaron....there are actually 3 or so different "standard" King 110 springs which are for different loads.....MR fitted ones to my Puma that were suitable given my vehicle, which has a bullbar (no winch) and full drawers, long range tank, 70 litre water storage etc etc.

Grover now sits up much nicer than it did before, although my original springs had sagged so it was difficult to say how much higher it is than standard...but it is definitely higher and is very noticeable getting in and out of the vehicle.

I have had no dramas even though it's effectively got a lift. No double cardan joint required for mine.

Ring MR and talk to them about what they did to mine....will likely work for yours.

[Aaron]

Im actually tempted to just get MR to do it as sort of an insurance policy in case it does do damage. How many hours labour did they sting you approx?

[Scallops]

Im actually tempted to just get MR to do it as sort of an insurance policy in case it does do damage. How many hours labour did they sting you approx?

Hard to know, Aaron - because I had a whole bunch of stuff done at the same time. Ring them - they'll be able to tell you, but I had 4.5 hours labour for a full service, spring fit (front and rear), fitting nugge t's snorkel kit and putting the Mulgo 90 degree back door adjusters on...so probably not much time to do the springs.

Also, it's good to get their experience with just what springs to use. Not many seem to know that there are multiple "standard 110" King springs, for example, and they will fit the best choice for your vehicle and load ranges.

It's a good upgrade - my vehicle drives much better now, but my original springs were probably well past their best.

[solmanic]

Why do you want to raise the front? You get better fuel economy when it's pointing downhill :bangin:

[Aaron]

It makes it look low on self confidence!

It will just look better and I remember with the TD5 it drove much better.

[Sitec]

I agree with them looking better with the nose lifted. I went with 40mm on the rear and 75mm on the front of my 130 which levelled it out well.. (it also helps disguise the 285's!! I cheated tho and made spacers and used STD springs as the first set of '2" lift springs' bought off Ebay were thinner and lower than the originals!! Lesson learnt there! The other point I might add is that mine still sat marginally lower to the left which is another Defender trait... so I now run two RH front springs and it sits level and true!!

[c.h.i.e.f]

130 puma and no lift the front prop is shagged :mad: