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goingbush
23rd July 2013, 04:54 PM
check out the LROCV facebook page for a youtube video of a Patrol Roll Over at Gough's Bay, Eildon
very scary stuff
for a start the driver took totally wrong line, but to me the clip demonstrates how all that weight up top raises the cog so much that it makes your truck downright dangerous , not much sideways angle there before Newtons law took over. ( Im guessing only 25-30 degrees)
having already received a couple of LROCV rolling pins myself, its one reason you wont see a roofrack on my truck.
newhue
23rd July 2013, 05:18 PM
reading some comments made by the filmer. He says it had a 5" lift that had drooped. I guess a roof top tents are 60 to 100kg? but that's not outrageous.
Perhaps driving to aggressive for the angle of the line. It's hard to see the line, or am I showing my inexperience.
djam1
23rd July 2013, 05:25 PM
This might help others
Patrol Roll Over - YouTube
Nissan limited slip diffs are not as good as I thought
goingbush
23rd July 2013, 06:02 PM
reading some comments made by the filmer. He says it had a 5" lift that had drooped. I guess a roof top tents are 60 to 100kg? but that's not outrageous.
Perhaps driving to aggressive for the angle of the line. It's hard to see the line, or am I showing my inexperience.
A 5" lift , I missed that info, that is going to raise the Cog even more !!
been up there in my old factory original BJ40 no probs ( my inlaws lived at Eildon)
it looks like he cut the corner instead of going up well to the left of frame
blue_mini
23rd July 2013, 08:48 PM
Its amazing how much flooring it can unsettle a vehicle, that and trying to go across a slope.
superquag
23rd July 2013, 08:59 PM
Ask a Pommy bus driver how far a double-decker can lean over before Sir Isaac Newton takes over...
And now, in the spirit of 'Educating the Ignorant' (me...) here's another how NOT to video. You'll love the ending...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HJA3J--g_yI
rovercare
23rd July 2013, 09:00 PM
This might help others
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Nissan limited slip diffs are not as good as I thought
Some Gu LSD have a much smaller clutch pack, gq LSD are good
Roof racks are evil
newhue
24th July 2013, 05:35 PM
Ask a Pommy bus driver how far a double-decker can lean over before Sir Isaac Newton takes over...
And now, in the spirit of 'Educating the Ignorant' (me...) here's another how NOT to video. You'll love the ending...
How "NOT" to pull a truck out of the mud (FULL CLIP) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HJA3J--g_yI)
love the ending...I got a kick out of 2min mark. Well a good laugh really.
I had seen that before. Amazes me they just work with brut force. Not a shovel to be seen anywhere.
Roverlord off road spares
24th July 2013, 06:23 PM
Now how's he going to explain that to his insurance, it would also have to be engineer approved at that height wouldn't it?
flagg
24th July 2013, 07:00 PM
It's a good example of how lots of small things gather. The lift, the line, the load, the driver..
Seriously though who floors it when they are unsettled like that?? :eek:
rovercare
24th July 2013, 10:21 PM
Now how's he going to explain that to his insurance, it would also have to be engineer approved at that height wouldn't it?
Why? I hate this comment, plenty of people have damaged modified vehicles repaired through insurance
superquag
25th July 2013, 12:08 AM
[QUOTE=newhue;1955331]love the ending...I got a kick out of 2min mark. Well a good laugh really.
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Me too. :p:p:p
Illustrates the perils of Brute Force & Ignorance, - and attaching the tow-line to the chassis, instead of the axle.
Used to use that idea on the farm, chains around each end of the axle (near the wheels, which are the round things buried in the glue...) and brought out via long leads to the towing tractor. Worked a treat and never bent a chassis... Or axle.
But as you said, Not a shovel to be seen anywhere so no-one was going to get themselves any wetter than they did...
PS, Old London d/deckers would handle 27 degrees, fully loaded top and bottom.
Modern Euro standard is 35 degrees, and top end Chinese bus will go to around 40 degrees.
- Nissan guy might have been better off in a camper-converted bus.....
Blknight.aus
25th July 2013, 03:55 AM
- Nissan guy might have been better off in a camper-converted bus.....
might have been better off with a brain
newhue
25th July 2013, 04:49 AM
SNIP
Seriously though who floors it when they are unsettled like that?? :eek:
flagg......you need to get out more there mate.......every lifted Patrol drives like that one:wasntme:
KarlB
25th July 2013, 09:36 AM
Why? I hate this comment, plenty of people have damaged modified vehicles repaired through insurance
I would have thought that a 5" lift without an engineer’s certificate would technically make the vehicle 'un-roadworthy'. Most insurance policies require the vehicle to be maintained in a roadworth condition.
modman
25th July 2013, 03:41 PM
Most of my friends drive modified vehicles, quite obviously modified, and I don't know anyone knocked back from a claim yet !!
I'm honest with my insurer, plenty of people aren't.
I say good luck to them
Last LROCV event I went to just about every vehicle would fail a roadworthy from drop out cones, bullbar protrusions, seat rail extensions, turbo timers, tyres not speed rated for vehicle, illegal bullbars, non authentic cup holders, unauthorized seat covers (the last two are cheap shots;) )
Dc
flagg
25th July 2013, 04:53 PM
Most of my friends drive modified vehicles, quite obviously modified, and I don't know anyone knocked back from a claim yet !!
I'm honest with my insurer, plenty of people aren't.
I say good luck to them
Last LROCV event I went to just about every vehicle would fail a roadworthy from drop out cones, bullbar protrusions, seat rail extensions, turbo timers, tyres not speed rated for vehicle, illegal bullbars, non authentic cup holders, unauthorized seat covers (the last two are cheap shots;) )
Dc
unauthorized seat covers can be quite bad with in seat air bags!
flagg
25th July 2013, 05:03 PM
flagg......you need to get out more there mate.......every lifted Patrol drives like that one:wasntme:
Haha yes. This is why I do my best to stay on the most out of the way tracks deliberately avoiding the lifted hiluxes and patrols... (Why is it the people being a nuisance always seem to be in hiluxes or a patrol??)
rovercare
25th July 2013, 05:41 PM
I would have thought that a 5" lift without an engineer’s certificate would technically make the vehicle 'un-roadworthy'. Most insurance policies require the vehicle to be maintained in a roadworth condition.
You can insure an "unroadworthy" vehicle;)
newhue
25th July 2013, 07:06 PM
Haha yes. This is why I do my best to stay on the most out of the way tracks deliberately avoiding the lifted hiluxes and patrols... (Why is it the people being a nuisance always seem to be in hiluxes or a patrol??)
Yep good point, it's alway a Hilux doing circle work on the beach.
My mates and I have a joke about "the Patrol option" It's always the hardest, muddiest, rockiest, steepest, dumbest line there is.
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