Classic Trucks

[Chops]

Hi guys,

I've got a bit of a desire to see some classic type trucks in action. When I say classic, I'm referring to trucks pre 70's (??) and earlier.
There seem to be clubs etc in NSW, but I cant seem to find anything here in Vic. Sometimes they have runs and shows, but I can only seem to find these at great distance from here (Melb).

Does anyone have any info or links as to where I may be able to get some info from, so as to get "closer" access?
Maybe after we've done our travels, I may get the urge to get involved with one of these old girls. ;)

Cheers

[V8Ian]

HCVC Vintage Truck Forum - Event Chat (http://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/YaBB.pl?board=events)

[Chops]

Trust a Queenslander to find something in Vic for a Victorian. ;)

Thanks Ian

[Tote]

The Western Sydney Historical Truck Club run a convoy from Sydney to Yass down the old Hume Highway every couple of years, well worth a look if you plan in advance.
Haulin' The Hume - 2013 (http://www.wshtc.com.au/index.php/trips/31-haulin-the-hume-2013)
I can vouch that on the Sunday Morning the air was ringing with the sound of GM engines for about 4 hours as they awoke and left.

Regards,

Tote

[Disco_ute84]

Search for "Crawlin the Hume" and "Haulin the Hume". Crawlin starts in Melb and goes through all the small towns that the original hwy did. Haulin is the same but starts in Sydney and goes through to Yass. We did Haulin the Hume this year in the B61, by far the best truck show I have ever been to.

[UncleHo]

I had a quick look at some of the pics,and was interested in the cica 25 Chev truck and the Ford TT 1 ton,my landlord has his Grandfather's 24 Chev Superior K ute,which is a very pleasent thing to travel in,we will be taking it to next year's Nambour Swap Meet,loved the pic of the Commer "Knocker" dragging the pup trailer fitted with the caravan,brilliant!

cheers

[V8Ian]

You guys are playing with these old jiggers, I'm still working them! :p

[pop058]

You guys are playing with these old jiggers, I'm still working them! :p

Livin' the dream Ian ??:D

[Mick_Marsh]

Livin' the dream Ian ??:D
Just too tight to update.

[korg20000bc]

...in the mean-time- look here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/120366-photos-found-hard-drive-old-logging-operation-trucks-pic-heavy.html

[V8Ian]

Hmmm, dream...nightmare, broadly speaking the same thing Paul. :(

[V8Ian]

Right, off to live another dream, catch ya. ;)

[alien]

50 years of Mack is being used as a draw card for 7&8 of September 2013 in Echuca.

American Truck Historical Society | Australian Chapter (http://aths.com.au/)

I had an offer to go but the dates ring a bell, must work out why;)



On a side note one of our recently retired drivers is being inducted at Alice this year.
Road Transport Hall Of Fame (http://www.roadtransporthall.com/)

[Mick_Marsh]

I had an offer to go but the dates ring a bell, must work out why;)
I'm sure it wasn't anything that couldn't be moved to the banks of the Murray.

[Chops]

...in the mean-time- look here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/120366-photos-found-hard-drive-old-logging-operation-trucks-pic-heavy.html

Thanks for that Korg, Not sure why I didn't see that thread when you first posted it, I've had a bit of interest in old truck for a long time.
Up near the farm out at Walla Walla, theres a guy who has what is I think an old Mack semi, with a milk tanker behind it which he now uses for carting water. His unit has been done up and looks spectacular.

In your other post, I reckon I've found my truck,, it even has my initials on it,,, :D Although I'd need to get rid of the AR within the Bull Bar ;)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=64405&d=1376901581

[Chops]

50 years of Mack is being used as a draw card for 7&8 of September 2013 in Echuca.

American Truck Historical Society | Australian Chapter (http://aths.com.au/)

I had an offer to go but the dates ring a bell, must work out why;)



On a side note one of our recently retired drivers is being inducted at Alice this year.
Road Transport Hall Of Fame (http://www.roadtransporthall.com/)


I'm sure it wasn't anything that couldn't be moved to the banks of the Murray.

Hmmmm,, I wonder,, Maybe we could convince her to move the address of the event,, we'd still be having a feed and a yarn etc,, :angel:

[Bigbjorn]

You guys are playing with these old jiggers, I'm still working them! :p

Yes, it amuses me to see vehicles of all kinds on Special Interest rego that are only thirty and a bit years old whilst there are numerous examples still in service plying the roads going about their daily duties.

My last 1980 White Road Boss is still hauling gravel and road base from Katherine to Darwin with three side tipping trailers. A cousin is now the owner and he has a Scania and a Mack doing the same job. He reckons neither can lift three loaded trailers out of the gravel pits like the Road Bike. It has a Detroit 8V92TA tickled up to marine spec, 545 hp @ 2300, Spicer 1420 trans, Rockwell 44,000 diffs. A mate not long ago retired a 1970 White 7000 cabover. It had been in line haul service all its life. Of course, it is like the Irish family axe, in original condition but has had two new heads and four new handles.

[Don 130]

My next door neighbour has a 1961 Thornycroft on club plates on which he carries his restored treasures. You can see it all here;

Thornycroft model ML "Mastiff" truck - COBAH CAST IRON (http://cobahcastiron.weebly.com/thornycroft-model-ml-mastiff-truck.html)
Don.

[V8Ian]

Just too tight to update.

What're you on about Mick? This is the update, air over hydraulic is so yesterday. :cool:

[Bigbjorn]

What're you on about Mick? This is the update, air over hydraulic is so yesterday. :cool:

Wall and Co's. 1947 Thornycroft had servo-mechanical brakes operated by a pto out of the gearbox (David Brown 4 x 3 twin stick), a clutch arrangement that pulled the brake rods as the driver pressed the pedal down. No, it didn't stop very well but then it didn't go very fast, 38 mph flat out.

[V8Ian]

Holding a large hankie out of the window helps considerably, Brian. :D

[Mick_Marsh]

What're you on about Mick? This is the update, air over hydraulic is so yesterday. :cool:
Hey, It's the most modern truck I've got!
It's the only truck I've got.

I'd love an ex-ADF 6x6 Mack (armoured) to trailer it around with.

[ramblingboy42]

....and if you want to buy a "project" try here....

whatsinyourpaddock.com.au for cheap,effective online sales of classic cars,motorcycles,utes,trucks,unfinished projects (http://www.whatsinyourpaddock.com.au/)

[Stuck]

I might be scrimping a bit on originality but highway fever! more old bangers! - YouTube

[V8Ian]

Ha ha, who else remembers the waving hand on a spring? :cool::cool::cool:

[Mick_Marsh]

Ha ha, who else remembers the waving hand on a spring? :cool::cool::cool:
A mate has a Beddy that still has one.

[Bigbjorn]

Ha ha, who else remembers the waving hand on a spring? :cool::cool::cool:

How old are you?

[Mick_Marsh]

How old are you?
I think Moses was a good mate of his, though, he looks much older.

[V8Ian]

Good on ya Mick, on that note I'll go and finish this dream. :D

[Mick_Marsh]

Watchya up to Ian?

[UncleHo]

I kinda like that "B" series Mack,B51"Maxidyne?? by the looks of it and possibly a "Mayne Nicolas" company truck (a Qld Coy.) was bought up by All Trans from memory which was swallowed by Linfox I think.

And those R series Inters,Vacc over Hydraulic,with teeny weenie vacc tanks :eek: one learnt quick to be sparing with the brakes, bit like the old Commers :)

cheers

[Bigbjorn]

I think Moses was a good mate of his, though, he looks much older.

I heard he carted the gopher wood for Noah.

[Bigbjorn]

I kinda like that "B" series Mack,B51"Maxidyne?? by the looks of it and possibly a "Mayne Nicolas" company truck (a Qld Coy.) was bought up by All Trans from memory which was swallowed by Linfox I think.

And those R series Inters,Vacc over Hydraulic,with teeny weenie vacc tanks :eek: one learnt quick to be sparing with the brakes, bit like the old Commers :)

cheers

Uncle, using brakes and Commers together in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

[V8Ian]

Ready to unload in Happy Rock at sparrows tomorrow, Mick.

[UncleHo]

G'day Brian

Yeah! I peddled a Commer CBEW with a 6/354 Perkins as a school bus for a few years,had a tare of 6.05 ton and 2 vac pumps and 4 tanks,with a full load of primary and highs on you had to keep an eye on the gauge, it had a gross of close to 12 ton

Oddly enough I enjoyed being a school bus driver,but seeing and meeting some of my kids now grown with their own school aged children makes me feel OLD!


Standard practice on descending Maleny Range was stop,pop Eaton No 4 into low select 1st let out clutch and come down on compression better slow than dead,I was driving around the time of the Cairns fatal school bus crash,which resulted in 11 kids killed,that lead to full skin off inspections and structural repairs to all school buses over 20yr old,Iknow of one operator which had 24 buses and had 16 put off the road 8 never to be repaired.


cheers

[alien]

50 years of Mack is being used as a draw card for 7&8 of September 2013 in Echuca.

American Truck Historical Society | Australian Chapter (http://aths.com.au/)

I had an offer to go but the dates ring a bell, must work out why;)



On a side note one of our recently retired drivers is being inducted at Alice this year.
Road Transport Hall Of Fame (http://www.roadtransporthall.com/)
Looks like I can't make it to Echuca for either day.

I've just found about this event at Sandown racecourse November 24.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1560.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Andyinwestoz617/media/HCVC-Display-2013_zps80367e9f.jpg.html)
Time to go check the calander:)

[Chops]

We might go to this one on the 24th, might have to go to the V8's there too,,, :D

[schuy1]

Love the old trucks. Thought I would add mine, '69 C1840, 6/53 GM T65 gearbox(The 1 with the low gear over to the right!, then 2nd over to the left with 3rd in the middle) No4 2 speed diff . The trailer is a 34ft Haulmark . I had it regoed up until 2 yrs ago when I got sick of transport inspections giving me a hard time about the blower drains :( I bought it in '96 and it has hauled cattle, hay, timber, steel, tractors, and anything that will fit on the trailer! :)
Only ever let me down once, the GM threw a leg at full noise on the Binjour Plateau:eek: . 7pm with a load of steers! :( A real pain I can tell you!
Now she just runs around the property shifting cattle mainly.
Cheers Scott

[UncleHo]

I'm off tomorrow morning to " Flag Day" at Caboolture Historic Village,with my S111 Lightweight along with other military vehicle club members with WC Dodges and a F1 International powered by a Perkins 6/354 along with an ex-RAAF Ford F series ambulance,should be a pleasent morning 8.30--1.30pm.

cheers

[BMKal]

Love the old trucks. Thought I would add mine, '69 C1840, 6/53 GM T65 gearbox(The 1 with the low gear over to the right!, then 2nd over to the left with 3rd in the middle) No4 2 speed diff . The trailer is a 34ft Haulmark . I had it regoed up until 2 yrs ago when I got sick of transport inspections giving me a hard time about the blower drains :( I bought it in '96 and it has hauled cattle, hay, timber, steel, tractors, and anything that will fit on the trailer! :)
Only ever let me down once, the GM threw a leg at full noise on the Binjour Plateau:eek: . 7pm with a load of steers! :( A real pain I can tell you!
Now she just runs around the property shifting cattle mainly.
Cheers Scott

Used to share a house in Adelaide years ago with a bloke who had an Inter almost identical to yours. Was in very good nick at the time too. I'll never forget the morning he was running late getting to a job and it had a flat battery. Had to drag it out of the driveway (prime mover only) and tow start him in the street - with the Toyota Crown I had at the time. The smell of burning clutch still comes to mind ................. :(

[Bigbjorn]

Love the old trucks. Thought I would add mine, '69 C1840, 6/53 GM T65 gearbox(The 1 with the low gear over to the right!, then 2nd over to the left with 3rd in the middle) No4 2 speed diff . The trailer is a 34ft Haulmark . I had it regoed up until 2 yrs ago when I got sick of transport inspections giving me a hard time about the blower drains :( I bought it in '96 and it has hauled cattle, hay, timber, steel, tractors, and anything that will fit on the trailer! :)
Only ever let me down once, the GM threw a leg at full noise on the Binjour Plateau:eek: . 7pm with a load of steers! :( A real pain I can tell you!
Now she just runs around the property shifting cattle mainly.
Cheers Scott

I had a Bedford KMR-XT5 with 6V53, RT610, Eaton double reduction diff. GM-H made them this way. We pulled a 36' widespread with it. Had a one car frame over the top. Oversold as a prime mover but would have been a ripper heavy 8 tonner body truck or car carrier. Had terrific brakes. 6V53's were not really meant to pull semi-trailers in long haul service. No wonder yours stuck a leg out of bed. A 4-71T would have been a stronger repower with a RT910 behind.

What was the problem with the blower drains? A well worn engine dribbling oil out?

[schuy1]

I remember seeing 1 of those bedfords when I was a kid, I think that got me hooked on the GM's sound :) Oh. and the water drillers with their GM powered Ingersol-Rand units may have helped! :D Throwing a leg had its origins in a blower replacement it seems. When a new blower is put on a used unit of unknown history they are supposed to derate the motor? Which they never did. The old motor was well worn, The man I got it off had it for 20yrs and before that it used to do a general run Rockhampton to Townsville among its regular use. So far as we knew it had never been overhauled in recent times. I did about 25000k on it before I blew it.
The new 1 has done 20000 and runs like a clock:p
The blower drains can be summed up as 20yo transport inspectors! The inspector that used to do them was 60+, knew all about the oldies quirks and so long as your lights and brakes worked 100% he was happy. The newbies have no idea ! They tell you to clean the cow dirt off because its a health risk! :/

Tow starting with a crown? :o its lucky u had any clutch left! not the lightest at 4.7 tare!
Cheers Scott

[Chops]

I like the look of your old truck Scott :D.
I can remember seeing a few around when I was young, and I think it was just something to do with the big square tanks, just makes them look tough. ;)

Its funny, I reckon up until about 20 odd years ago, we used to see a few old trucks,, of all sorts,, dotted around the place. These days, I'm flat out seeing any. I wonder whare they all are hiding. I've often thought about getting one to do up, even just as a bit of driver, pleasure of course :eek:. The old truck wreckers up in Wodonga has long gone now, they had a few oldies there, along with all the LR's.

On the way home tonight as I pulled up to turn off, I had an old Atkinson go boring past me with his Jakes on,, sounded good ;)

[V8Ian]

So you like Jakes Chops? [bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

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[Chops]

So you like Jakes Chops? [bigwhistle]


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Ahh,, very good thanks Ian,, I certainly don't have any issues with them.
I can remember laying in bed and hearing a set go off every now and then as they slowed going through the old railway crossing before Gerogery, and then the town itself,, well, sometimes for the town anyway ;)

[schuy1]

In the last 10 yrs there appears to have been a concentrated effort by the RTA of most states to remove as many "old"(as in 20yrs+) trucks as possible from general use. Up this way they have done this mainly by enforcing the nil oil leak/weep rule and raising braking expectation to new truck level. So many older trucks can not hope to match modern braking. Another reason is it has become cheaper to upgrade to a modern 2nd hand unit than it is to keep maintenance up on the older trucks as spares become harder to source.
Cheers Scott

[Stuck]

Not as good as my first find. old aussie trucks - YouTube

[V8Ian]

Not as good as my first find. old aussie trucks - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5xPebKkG1k&index=26&list=RDzAKmmQWytes)

Ain't that tune the truth.

[Trundle]

The old truck wreckers up in Wodonga has long gone now, they had a few oldies there, along with all the LR's.)

I miss North East Truck Wreckers. That was one of my favourite places in town.
Does WA Pickles still have his collection of old trucks in town?

[Davehoos]

In the last 10 yrs there appears to have been a concentrated effort by the RTA of most states to remove as many "old"(as in 20yrs+) trucks as possible from general use. Up this way they have done this mainly by enforcing the nil oil leak/weep rule and raising braking expectation to new truck level. So many older trucks can not hope to match modern braking. Another reason is it has become cheaper to upgrade to a modern 2nd hand unit than it is to keep maintenance up on the older trucks as spares become harder to source.
Cheers Scott



for a company with lease deal and finance cant have a fleet of older trucks, with current low interest rates there is no reason at all to invest in modern plant.


my government job our fleet of medium ridged trucks-we traded 16 and 25 year old for a 8 year maximum. the running cost for both are about the same. In fact the older trucks might be cheeper--but im not advocating keeping a fleet of inter acco over nice new hino with an a/c that works.


to claim fuel use it needs to be modern-global warming friendly trucks--that will have enough life span for the next buyer. Ive been told of countless small operators that had been refused jobs and tax rebates because of the older cheap to operate trucks.


Its easy to get parts for older trucks as long as they are the same as left hand drive vehicles.

[Don 130]

This (http://www.truckandautoparts.com/Vintagetruckandmachineryshow.html)is on next weekend for those interested. The Thornycroft will be there with a McDonald tractor on the back as ballast. The owner claims his truck will be the oldest there still with it's original paintwork.
Don