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Shingleback
2nd September 2013, 09:33 AM
Hi perentie gurus, I'm after some info on if and how the front axle housing is braced/strengthened on the army 110's. If they are strengthened a few photos would be great please. I have an isuzu 130 and are going to strengthen the front diff housing, looking for ideas.
Cheers, Andrew.
djam1
2nd September 2013, 09:57 AM
Some of the Perenties have a cast housing that is completely different than a normal Defender.
Sorry can't find any pics
isuzurover
2nd September 2013, 12:59 PM
Here is what I did:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/99871-isuzu-county-tourer-2.html
Shingleback
2nd September 2013, 01:35 PM
Some of the Perenties have a cast housing that is completely different than a normal Defender.
Sorry can't find any pics
Yeh thats right, the 6x6 and the long range patrol variants had the stronger front diff, but can someone please confirm that the standard rover diff equipped 110 had bracing welded on?
Shingleback
2nd September 2013, 01:51 PM
Here is what I did:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/99871-isuzu-county-tourer-2.html
Thanks and good looking job. Only problem I see with having the bracing on top of axle tube is that I've got a Maxi drive actuator to weld on, might be in the way, otherwise good idea for extra clearance. So was thinking that if the army ones have bracing infront or under axle i'd copy the proven design. Will have to work out where exactly the actuator will go. Cheers.
Davehoos
2nd September 2013, 05:03 PM
the narrow cab 110 6X6 uses a standard 110 housing with pipes welded interallly-steam pipe?.from memory a plate is attached to the inner end.
placed inside and welded in spots to allow some flex.
talked about in older threads.
they also used fine spline 4 pinion diff.
no added brace outside.
patrol 110 4X4 had a shorter 6X6 wide cab diff housing.
lots of other aftermarket brace kits around at the time.
Bearman
2nd September 2013, 06:00 PM
This is the axle housing from an RFSV perentie. Longer version used in the 6X6 SRV.
isuzurover
2nd September 2013, 06:18 PM
This is the axle housing from an RFSV perentie. Longer version used in the 6X6 SRV.
As djam1 mentioned, it is a cast centre with plug welded press-fit tubes, the same as a sals.
As pointed out in recent posts by Bush65 this sort of design is far from optimal. It is much easier to stiffen/strengthen a fully welded (pressed steel) housing.
Shingleback
3rd September 2013, 05:39 AM
Thanks for the replies guys. So is it the case that the standard army 110 front diffs are not braced? I might be thinking of our old army s2a which Definately had bracing welded to it's front diff, so assumed the 110 had also. Not to worry I'll be bracing mine up anyway. Cheers.
Davehoos
3rd September 2013, 07:19 PM
the most conversation about bracing diffs was to guard against denting the housing.
the dented diff then rubbed through on the crown wheel and leaked oil.
Blknight.aus
3rd September 2013, 07:41 PM
nothing special about a generic front perentie diff.
Shingleback
4th September 2013, 05:36 AM
nothing special about a generic front perentie diff.
Thanks for clearing that up Dave, did the Army ever bend them? Mabey they arnt that weak after all.
123rover50
4th September 2013, 06:44 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Dave, did the Army ever bend them? Mabey they arnt that weak after all.
On the weighbridge it says I have 2500 kg,s on the front axle of mine and I dont seem to have bent it yet.
Though I worry about the strength of the neck of the swivel housings. (chrome balls)
Didiman
weeds
4th September 2013, 08:01 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Dave, did the Army ever bend them? Mabey they arnt that weak after all.
i dont recall seeing any bent....i did however have to panel beat the fronts and weld patchs after the crown wheel had worn a hole in it
toad
6th September 2013, 02:08 PM
Hi perentie gurus, I'm after some info on if and how the front axle housing is braced/strengthened on the army 110's. If they are strengthened a few photos would be great please. I have an isuzu 130 and are going to strengthen the front diff housing, looking for ideas.
Cheers, Andrew.
Worked alongside the Army tech adviser for B Vehicles in the late 80's. We discussed this at one time. He advised that all Isuzu front axle housings are strengthened internally with a pressed in tube (laminated). No visible sign exists external to the housing. If you put a 4bd1 in a non Isuzu landy, then you should fit the front axel along with it. Hope this helps.
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