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Drover
12th October 2013, 08:11 PM
Well ..... I contacted Pete Bell for a change to my BAS map for my SVX after 3 years of reliable service. Pete lead me down the track to the all new " Add-on " version for the 2.4L PUMA.
For £50 I was provided with a full up grade to the new mapping set up based on the latest base line maps developed by LandRover. Good deal I thought.
I loaded the new map this morning and WOW...did I say WOW, because WOW !
Quoted at 450NM's and 127KW's (standard 360NM's / 90KW's) it is unbelievable.
If you've got BAS map older than May 2013, upgrade ASAP.
Worth the coin...you bet
Aaron
12th October 2013, 10:00 PM
Once you get over the excitement (I remember the feeling!) Id like to know more details if possible
TimNZ
13th October 2013, 09:58 AM
That upgrade is WELL worth the money! As is everything Pete at BAS does.
n plus one
13th October 2013, 11:10 AM
Hmmm, my remap is circa March this year - might be worth an email to BAS to see if another upgrade is on the cards?
PAT303
13th October 2013, 12:07 PM
Drover,have you had any surging problems that are supposed to happen with the cat removal?,doing mine very sortly. Pat
Drover
13th October 2013, 06:39 PM
Hey Pat,
No mate, no surging at all. The removal of the cat produced much smother power delivery and allowed the turbo to spool up a little quicker. Power increase was small but noticeable. I did the centre muffler removal at he same time and it had the BAS map already loaded.
Aaron,
I first got the BAS (Bell Auto Services from UK) about 3 years ago. Pete Bell is very customer focused and he produced a custom map for me. I have recently sold my caravan and returned to camper trailer so I didn't need the tow map anymore.
I contact Pete for his tuned map and he set me up with the latest version, based on Land Rovers current base programming improvements.
For current customer it was only an extra £50.
If your interested contact BAS direct.
BAS Remap interface, Giving you control over your remap ! | BAS Remaps, Powering the Landrover Defender tuning world! (http://bellautoservices.co.uk/bas-remap-interface/)
Up date for existing customers
https://secure.bellautoservices.co.uk/store/'model_number=puma24upgrade
Naks
15th October 2013, 07:37 PM
I loaded the new map this morning and WOW...did I say WOW, because WOW !
Quoted at 450NM's and 127KW's (standard 360NM's / 90KW's) it is unbelievable.
If you've got BAS map older than May 2013, upgrade ASAP.
Yep, as much as the 2010 remap was a superb improvement on the OEM map, this 2013 map is even better than the 2010 map!
LoveB
15th October 2013, 07:48 PM
if only 2.2's were doable now :(
Chops
15th October 2013, 09:01 PM
A quick question for you Drover. Did doing the mapping option/decat, interfere with your warranty when you had done initially?
Also, with the mapping, how does this effect fuel consumption/power compared to original?
I'm quite happy with my car as is, but, sometimes just a tad more grunt would be nice. At present, I get around the 530K's to a tank of fuel, which I don't believe is that good anyway, but I have the roof rack/tent on etc, and I have a relatively heavy foot ;) so I expect a loss.
Naks
15th October 2013, 09:02 PM
if only 2.2's were doable now :(
they are, but not remotely via the remap unit.
LoveB
15th October 2013, 10:07 PM
they are, but not remotely via the remap unit.
thats what i meant... btw it looks like youre a saab guy too lol
Naks
15th October 2013, 10:09 PM
thats what i meant... btw it looks like youre a saab guy too lol
Yeah, I had a 2008 9-3 Aero Convertible for a while. Unfortunately had to sell it when moving houses, cuts deep every time I see it on the road. :(
Aaron
15th October 2013, 11:56 PM
A quick question for you Drover. Did doing the mapping option/decat, interfere with your warranty when you had done initially?
Also, with the mapping, how does this effect fuel consumption/power compared to original?
I'm quite happy with my car as is, but, sometimes just a tad more grunt would be nice. At present, I get around the 530K's to a tank of fuel, which I don't believe is that good anyway, but I have the roof rack/tent on etc, and I have a relatively heavy foot ;) so I expect a loss.
Don't take what I say as gospel. Ignoring what you say about the de-cat because I haven't touched exhaust. But my understanding is that when you put your car in for a service you return the car back to factory tuning. Two reasons. A) The warrant issues you spoke of. B) I believe (Someone feel free to correct me) that if they plug your computer into a diagnostics machine while its currently remapped it can pretty much lock and kill and ecu. It only takes ten minutes to re-map it, so its no big drams.
You other questions are probably best answered by my own mini write up. I have an 07 110, No roof rack. Just bullbar and winch. I get 650k out of a tank. Although Im not even 30 yet, I do drive like a grand dad (at the speed limit but). In saying that, I found that in my TD5 and Puma, it didn't really matter how I drove, it returned that same fuel economy.
As for power/fuel economy. The power is great, but its smooth. It just feels like that's how its meant to be. It feels proper without been over the top. I de-tuned mine today because its going in for a service/suspension works tomorrow and it reminded me how much drive ability it gave me with BAS. Keep in mind that when I first got the Puma I was blown away with its power. The BAS re-map was I think, and equal step up in performance.
Keep in mind he also does custom tunes if your Defender has a fair few mods etc.
Fuel economy has remained the same.
Chops
16th October 2013, 03:44 PM
Thanks Aaron,
Wasn't sure about the warranty stuff, but had a feeling that was the way to go.
I was quite surprised at how much I lost when the roof rack went on :(, then I lost even more by running my old 31's (muddies) :eek:
I can get it back up a bit by slowing down, being smoother etc, but its hard trying to keep up with general traffic. I just hate stop/start, but that's city life :(
LoveB
16th October 2013, 10:57 PM
Yeah, I had a 2008 9-3 Aero Convertible for a while. Unfortunately had to sell it when moving houses, cuts deep every time I see it on the road. :(
Ot
Ive still got my ng900... backom the road soon. One of the best cars ive had.
Gerokent
18th October 2013, 09:43 AM
Loaded the addon yesterday, and yes, what a difference. Smooth right from the get go and keeps going. 4wding this weekend :)
c.h.i.e.f
4th December 2013, 05:34 PM
Wish they would hurry up with the 2.2 improvements arrr :(
Leroy_Riding
6th December 2013, 07:27 AM
Wish they would hurry up with the 2.2 improvements arrr :(
agreed, I still have a bit over 12months of warranty left, so hopefully there will be a nice map available then.
Leroy
Iain_B
7th December 2013, 09:43 PM
I updated my BAS remap to the new version today, and it was worth the money, the car is smoother and feels better, I think it is a definite improvement and worth the UKP50. Thanks Drover for let us all know about the new map.
n plus one
1st January 2014, 06:43 PM
Anyone getting surging post upgrade? I'm getting some on a very light throttle load, particularly when the engine is still warming up.
Not sure it's the upgrade, but I never used to have any. Not logging any faults - I'll check the fuel/air filter tomorrow.
Drover
1st January 2014, 06:57 PM
Not getting/having any surging issues, but Pete did say to make sure the engine is well hot before using too much throttle.
Naks
2nd January 2014, 02:42 AM
Anyone getting surging post upgrade? I'm getting some on a very light throttle load, particularly when the engine is still warming up. Not sure it's the upgrade, but I never used to have any. Not logging any faults - I'll check the fuel/air filter tomorrow.
Nope, no surging here, been running the v2 map for a few months already.
Check if the air filter box is properly locked?
n plus one
2nd January 2014, 06:59 AM
Well, I've put new fuel in, will check filters this morning (99% sure they're ok as I always check them post service to make sure they're fitted correctly).
It's only on very light throttle settings when the engine is not yet up to temp ie head off down the road in the morning, running great everywhere else. A bit weird eh?
Naks
2nd January 2014, 04:37 PM
Are you not referring to the 'kangarooing' effect when starting off in 1st gear?
n plus one
2nd January 2014, 04:41 PM
Are you not referring to the 'kangarooing' effect when starting off in 1st gear?
No, it's surging/hunting on a steady (light) throttle in any gear. Also the occasional hesitation going up through the gears on moderate throttle.
Once she's warms, she's apples - runs smooth and goes like a three tonne rocket :D
dcale
2nd January 2014, 04:51 PM
Hi n plus one, mine also does this but only started last winter and only when it is cold. During summer I have not noticed it. I recon it will be back this winter. I believe it is to do with one of the sensors? I am interested to see if you identify the cause! FYI i have 2009 110 with the alive remap.
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