Spare wheel carrier - 130 trayback

[iClick]

I'm looking into getting a Trayon camper in the future and I'm trying to determine what to do with the spare wheel(s)

Has anyone had any experience with something like this: Swing away spare wheel carrier for Haymen Reece coupling (http://www.tiregate.com/hg-series/)

http://tiregate.com/uploads/files1/hg_01_b.jpg

http://tiregate.com/uploads/files1/hg_03.jpg

http://tiregate.com/uploads/files1/hg_07.jpg

http://tiregate.com/uploads/files1/hg_08.jpg

If it's braced well and doesn't rattle/bounce would it be a viable solution? I have to say I've never seen something like it locally.

[MR LR]

You give away your ability to tow, and if it's going on a tray back ute the tray would probably stick out further than the tow bar anyway, so it wouldn't fit.

I certainly wouldn't be using the tow bar extension they have on it, and I highly doubt it would be legal over here.

[jx2mad]

Most Trayon campers I have seen, including my mate's has the spare wheels mounted on the headboard of the tray. There is usually a gap between the back of the cab/headboard and the front of the camper unit.

[iClick]

Most Trayon campers I have seen, including my mate's has the spare wheels mounted on the headboard of the tray. There is usually a gap between the back of the cab/headboard and the front of the camper unit.
I've seen that too, the problem is the camper I'm looking at is already 2100mm long. That's the same length as my tray so unfortunately no room for a spare against the headboard. :(


You give away your ability to tow, and if it's going on a tray back ute the tray would probably stick out further than the tow bar anyway, so it wouldn't fit.

You're correct, the one in the link wouldn't work because of the tray. The idea came from a fabricator who saw my setup and suggested this rig. He has made them in the past and it would be a custom job to suit my vehicle. The concept is the same though.


I certainly wouldn't be using the tow bar extension they have on it, and I highly doubt it would be legal over here.
I rarely tow and if I do it's just locally to the river with a dinghy. I'd be prepared to lose the tow capacity when utilizing the carrier.


Another option is to carry the spare on a rack over the cab, but I need that space for a roof top tent. (We are a family of four so need the extra bed space!)

I think from memory the specs allow for up to 150kg to be placed on the towbar and if I keep to within that it should be OK?!

[TonyC]

Have a talk to Rijigij on here, he does a carrier for a 130 and seems able to do custom/accommodate mods to his designs.

Home - Rijidij Off Road (http://rijidijoffroad.bounce.com.au/#)

Tony

[alan48]

:) Hi I have just ordered a new puma 130 and the tray will be lifted sufficiently to let the spare be carried underneath the tray as all Toyotas do for eg. I have done this for exactly the same problem you mention re camper on the tray and no room for the tyre.Good luck

[jx2mad]

I forgot to mention that my mate has had runners fitted so the camper sits above the tray with storage underneath

[JohnF]

The RFS had a Defender as one of their support vehicles with the spare tire mounted on the bullbar. Do not know if that is still legal.

[VladTepes]

I don't think that's ever been legal.

[austastar]

Hi,
this was my solution.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/882.jpg

More info here (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/85421-trying-get-my-head-round-things.html)

cheers

[iClick]

The under tray option looks good. Mine is a dual-cab so I'm not sure that I'd have enough room just behind the cab. Perhaps raising he tray and tucking it under the rear is something I should look into.

[alanw]

Not sure if you have the tray built/installed yet - but with only minor changes it is easy to mount the spare under the tray and on top of the fuel tank of a 130 dual cab. My experience is with stock 7.50 X 16 tyres. Would be a bit more engineering for wider tyres.

No real need to lift the tray - its more about the distance between the main rails for the tray and the mounting system at the back.

alanw

[sdt463]

My 130 dual cab tray back, not only has the spare wheel under the tray, but also a 60 ltr water tank and a second fuel tank of 125 ltr's.
Dave

[Ranga]

I built my tray high enough to fit 2 spares underneath, but have since bought a bonnet with the wheel mount, so 1 tyre fits underneath, and for expeditions the other tyre goes on the bonnet. I can just squeeze 255/85R16 wheels underneath.

I also carry a Trayon ;)

[iClick]

I built my tray high enough to fit 2 spares underneath.

I also carry a Trayon ;)

Hey Ranga.. do you think you'd be able to send me some snaps of your tray setup with the tyres mounted below? No rush, I'm picking up the Trayon at the end of Feb and will look at where to store the spare once I've collected the camper.

[130man]

Hi Iclick, quite a few Trayon owners just let the camper overhang the rear of their tray. It can require a little ingenuity to adapt the rear tie downs but I have seen it done. My tray was purchased extra long to suit the Trayon and allows me to have the spares against the headboard, keeping their weight forward while not having the camper overhang at the rear. However,the towbar needed the longest Hayman-Reese extension available to allow me to reach my trailer coupling conveniently. Cheers, 130man.

[Ranga]

Hey Ranga.. do you think you'd be able to send me some snaps of your tray setup with the tyres mounted below? No rush, I'm picking up the Trayon at the end of Feb and will look at where to store the spare once I've collected the camper.

First, I forgot to send my congratulations on picking up a Trayon - I'm sure you'll be very happy!

I thought a video might be better, that way you can pause wherever it suits for the best shot.

Hope this helps.

YouTube

[iClick]

I thought a video might be better, that way you can pause wherever it suits for the best shot.

YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKlW9BU9RA)

Thanks, yes - can't wait to pick it up and go bush!

Just tried to view the video but it seems to be set to private.

[Ranga]

Just tried to view the video but it seems to be set to private.
Try again now :)

[iClick]

Awesome, thanks for that. I love the amount of extra storage you achieve with the tray raised. Do you ever notice having the Trayon mounted that high it feels top heavy? Also, just looking at the video, what stops the lateral movement of the C-Channel when the Trayon is mounted?

This is all definitely food for thought and when I get the camper I'll see what works out the best.

[Pilbara130]

Ranga that's awesome mate well set up.

[Ranga]

Never really felt it being too top-heavy. A good thing about the Trayon is all the weight is low and forward. Having the spare so low also helps lower the centre of gravity.

You'll notice in the start of the video a web welded on the c channel to minimise lateral movement.

I need to fix the front tray mounts, and to do so need to remove the tray. I'm considering swapping the c channels from left to right, thus adding about 8" to the internal width. Just need to work out how to secure the Trayon legs.

[POD]

Great setup, I have plans to lift my tray (actually a box) to about the same height for rear wheel clearance, seems that having the tray floor at about the same height as the door handles works well, would be great to get the weight of the spare wheels forward of the rear axle too. Still dreaming about a Trayon, $ out of the question for this year's trip unfortunately.