D4 ARB Bull Bar & Front Parking Sensors

[tonyci]

I am getting a ARB bar fitted next week. The installer tells me that the parking sensors will not work and will have to be turned off. Apparently they can do this via the cars software.
Question is has anybody got an ARB bull bar with front parking sensors that work.
Cheers
Tony

[Redback]

I am getting a ARB bar fitted next week. The installer tells me that the parking sensors will not work and will have to be turned off. Apparently they can do this via the cars software.
Question is has anybody got an ARB bull bar with front parking sensors that work.
Cheers
Tony

I'm pretty sure the sensors work with the Opposite Lock bar, I don't have front sensors in our D4, but my Opposite Lock bar has the holes for the sensors, so I'm assuming they do work with the OL bar.

Baz.

[tonyci]

thanks Baz.
Yes I understand that the OL bar has indeed managed to manufacture a bar where the parking sensors actually work. For various reasons I am getting a ARB bar that has provision for the sensors, however the installers tell me that they are not recessed out enough and thus the sensors do not work, go figure?.
Cheers
Tony

[Fred Nerk]

ARB would not supply a bar for my D4 HSE because they don't accommodate the cameras.

The ARB and OL bars look very similar, but the OL bar accommodates the sensors and cameras. Some have said the ARB bar is better, but no cameras or sensors was a deal breaker for me. I'm happy with my OL bar.

[discotwinturbo]

Hope you don't need bigger tyres such as mine, as they will rub on the arb bar.
If they have provision for sensors, they must work surely.
Brett

[tup39]

Very happy with my OL bar all front parking sensors work as they should,can't see why ARB Can't do the same.

[Fred Nerk]

Hope you don't need bigger tyres such as mine, as they will rub on the arb bar

Do the big tyres rub with the OL bar?

[discotwinturbo]

Do the big tyres rub with the OL bar?

Nope. No rubbing at all.

Brett

[LGM]

I have a D4 HSE and an ARB bar has been on the vehicle for the last two years.

The parking sensors have worked since day one of the installation albeit not without the odd problem. There has been times when there was an intermittent problem with the sensors giving a false alarm.

My local LR dealer was able to fix that issue for a price.

I don't know if there has been any modification to the sensor mounting on the latest ARB bars but it seems to me that the mount for the sensors is not sufficiently robust and any movement of the sensors can lead to problems.

[tony_s]

I have a D4 TDV6 with an ARB bar. They stuffed around for a couple of weeks before they could get the sensors to work. They have been there for 3 years without an issue since then. Rough job though. Pick you ARB shop carefully.

[tonyci]

Thanks for the replies. It seems I need to ensure the installer puts in the effort to get the sensors to work. Also would appear to be a dodgy design.
Cheers
Tony

[letherm]

Hi tonyci.

If you're considering alternatives I decided to buy and ECB bar. One of the reasons was that their web site said it was specifically designed for the LR. It has positions for the sensors. I have mine on order at the moment and hope to have it fitted soon so unfortunately cannot categorically confirm it works but it says it on their web page so they I presume that it should or they break consumer legislation re fit for purpose.

Martin

[Brad]

I have a D4 SE with front parking sensors and ARB deluxe bar. ARB have been attempting to get the sensors working since *feb 2012*. The sensor mounts they use are defective and not fit for purpose. I have had two different ARB workshops try to fix the issue and not a single attempt has lasted beyond the drive from workshop to home.

The sensors in my Kaymar, installed at the same time, work perfectly.

ARB have just recently confirmed in writing that they do not know what the solution is, and that they have no time frame for providing one.

[BMKal]

I've got an ARB deluxe winch bar on mine - with no parking sensors on the front at all.

Honestly can't see any need for them ........................ :p

[PaulGOz]

My front sensors have not worked since the arb bar install. Installer was not interested in rectifying. They also knocked out my rears somehow I am not sure if they can be individually switched off. I have given up on getting them working. Make sure all sensors remain plugged my loom is now coroded as it was left unplugged. Argghh.

[tonyci]

PaulGOz
Apparently the front sensors can be turned off via software.
Or so I have been told. I will check this out. My install is scheduled for Friday
Not so worried about losing the front but would like to keep the rears if possible.
Cheers
Tony

[sheerluck]

PaulGOz
Apparently the front sensors can be turned off via software.
Or so I have been told. I will check this out. My install is scheduled for Friday
Not so worried about losing the front but would like to keep the rears if possible.
Cheers
Tony

Correct. The fronts, rears, or both can be activated or deactivated using a Faultmate, Nanocom, IIDTool or similar.

[tonyci]

Well had the bull bar and winch installed. Took two days at Ritters. Did a very neat job. They de activated the front parking sensors , rear still work.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions on my various threads re bull bars.
Car does feel a little different to steer but not too much, a little heavier.
I am sure I won't notice that by the end of the weekend
Cheers
Tony

[pwillo]

Had the OL bar fitted 2 months ago to my new D4, 4 hrs fitting time, front sensors working perfectly.
Originally wanted the arb Sahara bar but they don't make a model for the D4, so I went for the OL bar to keep the sensors.

Regards

[Wezz]

Hi, I had the ARB Deluxe bar fitted to my, 2012 D4TDV6 and no issues with the sensors. All work perfectly fine. Cheers

[tonyci]

HI Wezz
I hope yours continue to work. Apparently in the rain they give false alarms so to speak.. MY installer could not get them to work, although I wonder how hard they tried.
Cheers
Tony

[Wezz]

Hi Tony, had it for about 8 months now, whilst it doesn't rain as much here in Sydney as Melbourne it has had it fair share of water. I spent new years at Fraser island and the entire front and bar spent time under water with some of the creek crossings etc. my bar was fitted by an ARB company store, not sure if this means anything however as said no problems. Cheers.

[Brad]

Update for ARB bar owners. ARB is in the process of redesigning the front bar sensor mounts to address the issue. They expect to commence testing a prototype within a few weeks.

[LGM]

This was my comment last December!

"I have a D4 HSE and an ARB bar has been on the vehicle for the last two years.

The parking sensors have worked since day one of the installation albeit not without the odd problem. There has been times when there was an intermittent problem with the sensors giving a false alarm.

My local LR dealer was able to fix that issue for a price.

I don't know if there has been any modification to the sensor mounting on the latest ARB bars but it seems to me that the mount for the sensors is not sufficiently robust and any movement of the sensors can lead to problems.
"

Me and my big mouth!:o

And here is my last post on the subject from another recent thread:

Not sure if this will help but my D4 HSE is fitted with an ARB bar and the park sensors fitted in the front worked fine when fitted in the bar for about two years. This is despite the poor fitting arrangement on the ARB bar. About a month ago they went 'bananas' and nothing my service agent could do would fix them.

In the end I gave up and had the front sensors disabled! Peace in our time

Prior to that final straw being reached the sensors could be partially rotated or moved in and out slightly and these movements would affect their sensitivity. The problem is then maintaining them in the best position. Once they move the problem starts all over again!

I figure having the front sensors disabled is not much of a drama as generally that is the direction I am looking in!


I hope the ARB fix, if it eventuates, is able to be retro fitted to all the bars they have sold to date for D4's

[tonyci]

LGM
Sorry to hear your front sensors stopped working, I had mine disabled at the time of installation.
Not sure how they could retro fit any fix. Should have been right the first time.
However like you I have learn't to live without them.
Cheers
Tony

[MY14D4]

Correct. The fronts, rears, or both can be activated or deactivated using a Faultmate, Nanocom, IIDTool or similar.

Does this mean you can get sensors fitted post factory option by your local dealer?

Also has anyone considered the alloy LR genuine one? If not, why? I'm in the market at the moment and have been put off of my original choice of ARB thanks to this bad boy under my bonnet:

73670

[sheerluck]

Does this mean you can get sensors fitted post factory option by your local dealer?

I don't know if the dealer diagnostic can enable the front sensors, where a number of the aftermarket systems can.

All you need is new loom, the sensors (check out eBay UK), the mounts (if you aren't getting a bullbar) and then the system enabling in the CCF.

[MY14D4]

Thanks, does the same apply for adding aftermarket cameras? I purchased the rear as a factory option but am now wishing I had gotten a couple more.
So you recommend any brands?

[VK3GJM]

All,

I fitted my ARB deluxe bar to HSE with the lot. 28,000km later Cape York OT, all sensors and cameras still positioned and working fine.

My business partner had his bar fitted by an ARB outlet, and to be honest there work is below average in routing cable, cable splicing, fittings, cameras and sensors.

When fitting parking sensors, you MUST use the soft rubber inserts and purchase 2 from LR to fit around the sensors, as the original figment only allows you to recover 2.

Regards

Gerald

[sheerluck]

Thanks, does the same apply for adding aftermarket cameras? I purchased the rear as a factory option but am now wishing I had gotten a couple more.
So you recommend any brands?

Don't know for sure about the cameras I'm afraid. I would assume that it is possible, I'll have a look at the parts listings to see what is possible.

For the front sensors, the OEM (they're made by Valeo from what I remember) sensor itself is used in a number of other cars, including some Fords. I picked up a set of 4 on eBay UK for about £50 including shipping.

[Basil135]

Does this mean you can get sensors fitted post factory option by your local dealer?

Also has anyone considered the alloy LR genuine one? If not, why? I'm in the market at the moment and have been put off of my original choice of ARB thanks to this bad boy under my bonnet:

73670

The general consensus on the genuine one is that it is not only very blingy & ugly, but sits too close to the body, meaning it will cause damage, should anything of substance hit the bar.

There is another thread on them in this section, at the moment.

And, as for the sticker, not sure why LR put that on there. But, don't be put off by it. All bar's on the market for the D4 have to meet the ADR's, so you know they have been tested to work with air bags and SRS.

[letherm]

Don't know for sure about the cameras I'm afraid. I would assume that it is possible, I'll have a look at the parts listings to see what is possible.

For the front sensors, the OEM (they're made by Valeo from what I remember) sensor itself is used in a number of other cars, including some Fords. I picked up a set of 4 on eBay UK for about £50 including shipping.

A dealer quoted me $110 each not fitted :(

[letherm]

The general consensus on the genuine one is that it is not only very blingy & ugly, but sits too close to the body, meaning it will cause damage, should anything of substance hit the bar.

There is another thread on them in this section, at the moment.

And, as for the sticker, not sure why LR put that on there. But, don't be put off by it. All bar's on the market for the D4 have to meet the ADR's, so you know they have been tested to work with air bags and SRS.

I've got an ECB bar and they specifically state on their web site that it is compliant.

[MY14D4]

"Compliant" with Australian road laws but not your LR warranty I'm assuming.

[Brad]

I assume that sticker is there only on vehicles sold post-LR bar becoming available. Sounds like a sales tool more than a real warning.

[Basil135]

"Compliant" with Australian road laws but not your LR warranty I'm assuming.

To deny a warranty claim, LR would have to prove the the fitment of an after-market bar caused the issue.

This would be a bit hard to do, if they are offering a bar themselves.

If in doubt, ring your dealer, then ring ARB / TJM / ECB and ask if their bars are compliant, and if they are aware of any warranty issues.

[LGM]

Brad,

My 2011 D4 has a similar sticker as well. The wording is from memory slightly different but in the same theme.

[letherm]

"Compliant" with Australian road laws but not your LR warranty I'm assuming.

Yes, compliant with ADRs. Hope not to have to test LR warranty on the issue but would certainly put up a fight if they declined a warranty claim because of an aftermarket bar being installed.

[grumpa]

In case anyone is interested in fitting after-market front sensors to a steel ARB Bull Bar:
This company - Australia's Leading Supplier of Quality Car accessories and Life Saving Devices * (http://procaracc.com.au) - supplied and fitted front sensors to my D3 and they work like a charm! They even come to your place and fit them. I am told they are the only company that uses rubber coated sensors imported from Germany. Cost $450 all-up, with 5 year warranty on parts and lifetime warranty on labour. Works for me!

[Willsy]

Hi,
I was leaning toward getting the ARB deluxe bar, as the OL dealer has packed up shop in my town. How bad is the tyre rub on the ARB bar? As I am currently running 275/65R18s and a GOE 2 inch lift rods.

Thanks,
Nick.

[Basil135]

Tyre rub?

I have the standard 19" tyres on mine, and there is a mile of room between them & the inner guard. No where near the bar.

[Willsy]

@discotwinturbo mentioned it on page one.... I read it so where else too.

Nick.

[DiscoWeb]

I find that having a bar fitted, OL in my case.

I have certainly found it makes me more confident when parking in tight spaces therefore doing away with the need or desire to have front sensors fitted.

The rear sensors I now think I could no live without in a vehicle this size.

Just my 2c worth.

Regards,

George

[Brad]

ARB fitted a new bullbar to my D4 last week and the front sensors are now working perfectly.

As previously indicated this is a new design for the D4. Holes are in a different spot and the OEM sensor brackets were sourced from LR directly. The fitting instructions for the sensors have also changed substantially according to the ARB store manager who has been looking after me.

All in all I am very happy with the end result and I would recommend anyone who has nonfunctional front sensors in an ARB D4 bar contact ARB.