Disco 1 rims for the 130

[lardy]

Hi guys,
I want to buy six disco one rims or sunraysia for the defender as they are supposed to be tubed and the tyre fitting mob did not tube them at the time.
Having spoke to my mate round the corner (even though I have driven from the pilbara back to Perth on a fair few occasions) after speaking to him and hearing how many times his 130 rolled after a tyre blew on his untubed tubed tyres I am less inclined to try it again!
Ok I could stick tubes in but access to tubes can be a pain in the pants all of its own, I think finding a suitable rim negating the need for tubes all together would be best.
So my question really is price and availability and what rims would take my toyo's
Would confirm size but we are in a cyclone at the moment!
Oh and my tour of the pilbara is ending on the 6th of jan and I am returning to the metro area on a permanent basis, so I need to act fast!
Thanks in advance.

[weeds]

I run D1 rims without tubes......no requirement to fit tubes, I have never had a tyre roll off the rims but than again have not been below 18psi

Not sure the D1 rims will have the correct load rating for a 130

The 130 lads will be along soon to advise the best rims

[isuzurover]

I have 2 sets of galvanised D1 rims that I run down to 7 psi offroad. Fitted with 255/85s and 285/75s (both tubeless).

D1's technically don't have the same load rating as 130 rims but they are as strong or stronger in reality.

[Steve Td5 130]

Hi Bud
I have been running late D1 mag rims on Defenders for the last 4 years
( tubeless )

In 1999 when the Defender Extreme was released it had the same mag wheel that the late Discovery 1 to runout stock.

When the Puma Defender was released they gave the wheels a facelift and called them a Boost wheel

Cheers

Steve





Hi guys,
I want to buy six disco one rims or sunraysia for the defender as they are supposed to be tubed and the tyre fitting mob did not tube them at the time.
Having spoke to my mate round the corner (even though I have driven from the pilbara back to Perth on a fair few occasions) after speaking to him and hearing how many times his 130 rolled after a tyre blew on his untubed tubed tyres I am less inclined to try it again!
Ok I could stick tubes in but access to tubes can be a pain in the pants all of its own, I think finding a suitable rim negating the need for tubes all together would be best.
So my question really is price and availability and what rims would take my toyo's
Would confirm size but we are in a cyclone at the moment!
Oh and my tour of the pilbara is ending on the 6th of jan and I am returning to the metro area on a permanent basis, so I need to act fast!
Thanks in advance.

[camel_landy]

The D1 rims are made of cheese in comparison to 130 rims. However, IIRC - You can get 130 rims in Tubed or Tubeless.

Radical suggestion I know but how about reducing your speed when airing down or just run at the correct pressure?? ;)

M

[rick130]

As for rolling due to a blowout.....

Would've happened whether tubed or tubeless.

The tyre deflates just as quickly with a blowout and the tyre rolls clean off the rim with a tubed tyre blowout.

Been there, done that, went tubeless on tube type 130HD rims.

[Don 130]

Re 130 rims.
2 part numbers for these XD\Wolf wheels,
ANR5593=welded construction,6.5Jx16,heavy duty, LR say for tubed tires
ANR4583=welded construction,6.5x16,heavy duty,for tubeless tyres
(J mentioned in the top line denotes valve stem size)
Don.

[Wicks89]

Hey mate,

I went sunraysia tubeless rims with 255/85, cost me 100$ per rim from jaxquickfit in Sydney and one got mangled in Darwin I got another for 120$ from bobjane. Hope that gives you an indication of cost.
Those were 0 offset king rims

[Sitec]

Hi. My Meighbour has 4 (poss 5) steel Disco 1 rims in his shed.... Can ask him what he wants for them if you like.... Distance might be an issue tho! :)

[dero]

Just got another King wheel from Bob Jane $98 no problems .

[lardy]

Hi. My Meighbour has 4 (poss 5) steel Disco 1 rims in his shed.... Can ask him what he wants for them if you like.... Distance might be an issue tho! :)
Thanks for that, we are heading down to Perth so might be a bit late in the day, I may just see if tubes are available as a temporary fix and change the rims out later when I get settled.

Thanks for the helpful comments guys all taken on board

[lardy]

The D1 rims are made of cheese in comparison to 130 rims. However, IIRC - You can get 130 rims in Tubed or Tubeless.

Radical suggestion I know but how about reducing your speed when airing down or just run at the correct pressure?? ;)

M

My concern was on road blow outs, off road I have never had any issues at all, my 130 has climbed its way all through the pilbara without anything stopping it yet.
It's an awesome old tractor, I was just concerned that this blow out was a direct result of running tubeless tyres on tubed rims!

[rick130]

I was just concerned that this blow out was a direct result of running tubeless tyres on tubed rims!

Definitely not.

I rolled a tyre clean off the rim with a sudden and catastrophic deflation @ 100km/h through a corner when running tubes.
Once you lose all the air the tube can't keep the tyre on the bead, and with 130 rims the beads are so damned wide I've never rolled one off in probably nine years of running tubeless on standard 130 rims.

Would I prefer a safety bead/rim?

Yes, and currently run 7" rims with a safety bead, but do not have an issue running tube type 130 rims tubeless.
I doubt very, very few would ever run a 130 as hard and fast as I have, and generally taring around the 3000kg mark.

[isuzurover]

The D1 rims are made of cheese in comparison to 130 rims. ...


Lots of people spread this crap around without any evidence to back it up. Some early D1 rims reportedly had balance issues, but that aside, the material thickness is thicker than most 130 rims and at least as thick as the later type (tubeless) ones with the holes drilled in them. I have a tubeless 130 rim in the shed (as well as the 2 sets of D1 rims already mentioned).

I have abused my D1 rims for years offroad and not damaged one. I am sure I have had my 110 loaded to the GVM of a 130 a few times... :angel:

[lardy]

Sounds like experience says it doesn't really matter when they go they go!
So a set of disco rims although tubeless appear to have the same performance in an explosive tyre situation anyway?

[camel_landy]

Lots of people spread this crap around without any evidence to back it up.
Well... The 130 rims I had were made of thicker metal than the Disco1 rims I've come across. Wolf rims are thicker still.

Given that this is what can happen to a 130 rim on a fully laden 110, without the driver even noticing. :o

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/1524.jpg

'Eyes wide open' is all I'd say...

M

[isuzurover]

Well... The 130 rims I had were made of thicker metal than the Disco1 rims I've come across. Wolf rims are thicker still.

...

WOLF rims are ANR4583, the same as the late type (tubeless) 130 rims.

I just measured mine up:
7 mm thick centre
3.5 mm thick outer

D1 rim for comparison:
8 mm thick centre
3 mm thick outer

I don't have a standard/early type 130 rim to measure but I recall they have a 3 mm outer and a 3 or 4 mm centre???