Defender Diffs/Transfer Breather Manifold Kit

[Witchdoctor]

Just fitted the latest product from Nugget Stuff.

Alloy front, rear & transfer case breather manifold kit. The kit is a no hole complete kit, it mounts over two brackets on the A/C intake side of the engine bay.
Install took me about 15min to fit.

Install*
Locate the breather lines, passengers side near fire wall, cut bends of the ends of the factory airline. Install the 3 push joiners to the factory airline, cut the supplied airline into 3 equal lengths, thread the lines in the direction of the two brackets. Fit the airlines into the base of the manifold push fittings.
Remove the two bolts holding the brackets in place, position the manifold & reinstall the bolts.
Job done, close bonnet.

Kit comes with a machined aluminium manifold, 3 stainless steel 6mm airline push fittings, 3 sintered stainless steel filters, 6mm air line & 3 airline push joiners.

[VladTepes]

Excellent. How much ? Link ?

[Chops]

Looking good.
I read today he was making a website up for his new products. Cant wait to get some extra cash so I can get some stuff. :cool:

[nugge t]

Just like to thank Dave for making his truck available as an alternative "test" unit.

The kits are $130 plus post and are available now. Will post the link to my new web page as soon as it is finished. Hopefully Monday at the latest.

Cheers

[Goenin]

I too are interested. Looks great.

[n plus one]

As is always the case with me, another neat solution is produced a couple of weeks after I have already addressed the problem in my typical half-arsed fashion :censored:

[gazcoonar]

Sorry guys this is a silly question. What is the purpose of this kit?

Cheers

[nugge t]

The breathers ina defender are raised but jusdt have a bent plastic end to stop water being sucked into the diffs during deep water crossings.

This raises them a bit more and also has a stainless steel filter on the end to give even more protection .

[Cracka]

Very nicely done Nuggget. I like your branding, 'Nugget Stuff' :D

[VladTepes]

I presume they are same same for all Defender models ? eg Tdi TD5, Puma etc?

Does anyone know if there are any mods done to the breather when a maxidrive is fitted?

[VladTepes]

Well, look what I found....

NUGGET STUFF | Innovative Extras for 4WD's (http://nuggetstuff.com/)

[nugge t]

I had no idea that was up and equally no idea how it got there...the wonders of modern technology/programs :D

That was an early draft and I am hoping that a much more complete version will be up tomorrow.

Still shaking head!!!!

[Vin Rouge]

If you're not too fussy about the elegance of the finish, a length of garden irrigation hose from Bunnings can also be used to extend the existing breathers, although I'd recommend completely replacing the rear diff breather. Join with a short length of heat shrink. Terminate the hoses behind the snorkel and fit some little yellow sprinkler heads. Job done for about $15.

I did mine four years ago and they've been fine.

[nugge t]

If you're not too fussy about the elegance of the finish, a length of garden irrigation hose from Bunnings can also be used to extend the existing breathers, although I'd recommend completely replacing the rear diff breather. Join with a short length of heat shrink. Terminate the hoses behind the snorkel and fit some little yellow sprinkler heads. Job done for about $15.

I did mine four years ago and they've been fine.

Yep and there are quite a few on ebay for not a lot as well.

Not even going to try to compete with those. These are designed to look as if they fit and to last forever with quality stainless steel breathers and machined billet body.

Personally I wouldn't be happy with the sprinkler heads as they are designed to let water out and therefore will let water in.

Not for everyone, but not intended to be either. :D

Cheers

[nugge t]

Well the web page is up and running. If you decide to ahve a decko and find any links not working or errors, please let me know.

nugget stuff home (http://www.nuggetstuff.com/)

[Tomo]

As is always the case with me, another neat solution is produced a couple of weeks after I have already addressed the problem in my typical half-arsed fashion :censored:

Well put, My effort of extending the breathers also looks disgraceful. I have some clear tubing looped around the A/C ducting in the engine bay.

Top job nugget! for bringing this to the market! I particularly like the 4 port jobbie which includes the fuel breather

[nugge t]

Thanks Tomo. I'll be doing the Defender 4 port shortly. The first one will be going on my 130 :D

[Dopey]

I bought one of the three port models earlier this week from Daniel (mulgo), very impressed with the workmanship and finish of the product.
Bloody good stuff Nugget!


Regards,
Mike.

Edit: and Daniels a top bloke too.

[simmo]

No need for any change to the axle vent after to fitting the maxidrive.

I have F&R diff vents , Transfer case vent , Gearbox vent as well. (4)

The push in connectors and pipe are readily available at the pneumatic, hydraulic and some truck accessory shops.

[HardCharger]

I'm resurrecting this as I have a question, what's the advantage of your kit as opposed to what others say that you need to put the end of the breathers at snorkel intake height? Since they are bonnet level, there's a chance they'll get dunked eventually, so I guess the stainless filters on the end prevent any water from going in?

[schuy1]

Mate, I would be a LOT more worried about other stuff if the cars in that deep!!! :D And I have said it before, A "snorkel" is NOT an excuse to drown a good car! Its primary function is dust reduction and filter life extender, with a bit of protection against a "whoops!! Who put that bloody waterhole there?!!

[HardCharger]

Mate, I would be a LOT more worried about other stuff if the cars in that deep!!! :D And I have said it before, A "snorkel" is NOT an excuse to drown a good car! Its primary function is dust reduction and filter life extender, with a bit of protection against a "whoops!! Who put that bloody waterhole there?!!

It's exactly those "whoops" moments that I'm looking out for! :D Best to know that the kit is serviceable and won't be part of the problem push comes to shove.

[landoman]

It's exactly those "whoops" moments that I'm looking out for! :D Best to know that the kit is serviceable and won't be part of the problem push comes to shove.

I am also thinking of fitting one of these.......but not sure of the function of them ....

1)...is the purpose to raise the height of the end of the breather hoses to a higher level

2) as said above if water was to get to the manifold would it get in through the outlets on the top

3) the 4 breather model has Front Rear ,transmission and fuel tank ....what is the function of the breather on the fuel tank .......and is this the same purpose to raise it up .....also how resistant to water ingress is the outlet

[Toxic_Avenger]

3) the 4 breather model has Front Rear ,transmission and fuel tank ....what is the function of the breather on the fuel tank .......and is this the same purpose to raise it up .....also how resistant to water ingress is the outlet

Diesel engine, hot diesel in the tank, cold river... and science.

Join the dots :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcsxB5dKJMg

Maybe it's an extreme outcome, but same principles apply.

[landoman]

Diesel engine, hot diesel in the tank, cold river... and science.

Join the dots :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcsxB5dKJMg

Maybe it's an extreme outcome, but same principles apply.

Ok thanks so it prevents a vacuum forming in the tanks and sucking in water
......any ideas on how waterproof or otherwise the 4 thingies on the manifold that allow the movement of air in/ out of the diffs .......hated science at school ....should have paid more attention ........

[Chops]

They're "breathers", so they're not "water proof".
Having said that, if you watch the video and how quick it all works, by the time those breathers go under water, everything will be cool enough that they won't suck up water. The breathers themselves if they do go under water will let very little water through anyway. And I would think if your that deep in water, you may have more to worry about then the diffs etc.

[landoman]

They're "breathers", so they're not "water proof".
Having said that, if you watch the video and how quick it all works, by the time those breathers go under water, everything will be cool enough that they won't suck up water. The breathers themselves if they do go under water will let very little water through anyway. And I would think if your that deep in water, you may have more to worry about then the diffs etc.

Thanks for that .....makes sense ...
....and ....yes have been up to my gear stick top
in the wet stuff .........and it does tend to be a tad distracting ........was just trying to reconcile what value this adds ...........

[Toxic_Avenger]

Ok thanks so it prevents a vacuum forming in the tanks and sucking in water
......any ideas on how waterproof or otherwise the 4 thingies on the manifold that allow the movement of air in/ out of the diffs .......hated science at school ....should have paid more attention ........

My understanding is that having an operations diff breather above the potential water line means that the pressure difference will be equalised through this point of least resistance, ie not thru diff seals, hubs etc. If you were to block off the breather ports on the manifold kit, then you'd be defeating the purpose of the whole kit.

[DazzaTD5]

As this thread has been brought back to life I thought I'd add some info.... mostly IMHO so take it as you will.

Fitted the 4 breather unit to a Defender TDCi (puma) 2.4lt

*The 2.2lt has the three breathers (diffs, transfer case) up as noted in the engine bay.

*The early 2.4lt has the rear diff breather only up vertical to the body at the rear, so the kit will be short some of the thin tube.

*If you have a 4 breather kit, there is plenty of the larger plastic hose left over to run enough to feed the rear diff to the front. The larger plastic hose will slide over the thinner tube, but is a nice tight fit and will need a bit of say silicone spray lube to join together. At the other end, do the same, slide in a small length of thin tube.

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IMHO.... being blunt and honest when it comes to fitting accessories as so many "accessory suppliers' seem not to have actually fitted their oh so good life saving kit to a vehicle...

The Nugget Stuff breather kit:
Pros.
*Neat nicely finished. (not a hodge bodge of stuff from Bunnings).
*Quicker to fit than running off to Bunnings.
*Serves an actual purpose and not just a BS product.
*Will see the life of the vehicle out.

Cons.
*Not as cheap as buying bits n pieces from Bunnings, but see above.
*Would be really good to see some form of plastic cover that clipped over the breather mount. This would still allow the breathers to do their job but would protect it all when pressure washing down the engine bay and also greatly reduce ingress of mud, dirt, water.

So to me, I'm not even going to bother prating around with any other option, buy the kit and install it.

hope the info is helpful.

Regards
Daz

P.S forgot the oh so important pic

[DiscoMick]

Yep, just installing it now.

Mine was one of those with the breathers just up near the floor, not up on the firewall. Have ordered some extra 6mm tubing from Nugget because I can say from experience you can't buy the same tubing from either Bunnings or Autobarn.

Why fit it? I don't want water in my diffs or fuel. Easy choice for me. The cost of the kit would be less than even one mechanical problem caused by not having breathers.

Incidentally, I discovered the Long Ranger tank fitted by the previous owner included a breather up to the filler, so I'm all good.

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