Another Rim and Tyre Question

[VladTepes]

I noticed that the sidewalls on my tyres seemed to be bulging disturbingly. No worries, I thought - no doubt just a bit low on pressure. A visit to the servo later (I used my own good tyre gauge) and the pressures are 40psi front, 45psi rear - and the sidewall bulge is still there. (It's always bulged a bit and I'm not sure whether its actually worse now or I am just noticing it more).

Ok so here are the stats:
Rims: LR steel rims: 5,50F x 16 x 33
Tyres: Kumho Venture AT LT 235/85 R16

Is this the right match? I would have thought so. Any suggestions ?
Also perhaps someone can shed some light on these for me:
The tyre is also stamped 120/116 Q ?

The rim also has the following stampings:
FV2000727
NRC7578
93401
> 1241 (The > is actually some sort of triangley symbol ?)

So what the heck do all these mean, coz I'm more confused than ever.

There was another thread somewhere about use of 130 rims on a 110 and the alleged pro's and con's of this arrangement. Can someone point me there or give me a rundown of these again ?

Ta muchly,

[Turtle61]

Vlad,

Check with Kumho if the tyres you have are suitable for 5.5 rims. Some manufacturers my 'recommend' rims 6-7.5 for 235s.
For example I have an old (2yo) BFG AT spec and the rim width for 235s is between 6 to 7.5 inches...
Looking at Kumho's website the 'standard' rim for 235s is 6.5inch.
might be that yours are a bit narrow... :?

[VladTepes]

Can anyone tell me are 130 rims wider ?

Where could I get steel wider steel rims for my 'fender ?
I am wanting to run BFG AT's or MT's in future - probably 235/85 x 16's as well.

[lewy110]

I think the 130 rims are 6in wide.

I run white eight spokes that are 16x7 and go well with 235/85r16's

[landrovermick]

Mate from memory 235's on 5.5 inch wheels are too narrow, you need to search the Tyre and Rim Association manual of Australia or contact a tyre shop. - They will have a copy.

Mate the ramifications of this fitment is that, god forbid you have an accident your insurer may not cover you as your tyres do not comply with the Australian Standard.....

When you say bulge its a bulge like they are pulled in to tight at the bead isnt it, cos if its a bulge up and down (from bead to tread) it could be an impact fracture.....

food for thought

Mick

[Turtle61]

:arrow: 130 rims are 6.5 inch
:arrow: Disco Steel rims are 7 inch and very nice on a Series :wink:

both suitable for 235 tyres

[tdi130dualcab]

The 130 rims are 6.5 inch as previously mentioned. They are also very hard to come-by 2nd hand. They are a much heavier rim the to 110 and the disco.

[Goblin]

IMHO you should also consider aftermarket steelies.
The ones I run my JT2's on are 15x7's but they cone in many sizes. Mine cost around $150 ea and you can pay nearly that for second hand 130 rims.

[Goblin]

Forgot to mention, the standard OE's on the newer fenders are 235/85's and they are on 16x7 alloys. I think this is a fair indication as to what a good rim size is/should be.

[VladTepes]

Cool, thanks for the info people :!:

LRMick: Yeah the first type of bulge mate. Tyre isn't damaged. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I'll keep watching this with interest, as I save up for some new rims/
I definitely want steel rims, prob 16x7, what brands do people have or can they recommend... and what would they cost.... :?:

[Turtle61]

Vlad,

A guy in QLD, also a LR fan had a set of WOLF RIMS shipped frorm the UK. They are the later type 130 rims (round vent holes) and did cost them much less than original 130s. The Wolf rims are used by the Pommie Army.

http://www.paddockspares.com/shop/pages/wheels_tyres/images/wolf.jpg

[Goblin]

Vlad,
You're living in the wrong corner of the planet.
Do you have Pro Comp up there ?
My rims came from them, at around $150 ea new, and they are a good buy.
Pics in my gallery and on another thread "Flares completed on the Defender"

[Defender200Tdi]

Vlad

If you want to do it the easy way, just buy a set of second hand Disco rims. As everyone has said, they're 16x7, fairly easy to get and should cost about $100 each. They'll fit your 235/85's no problems, and have capacity for larger sizes like 255/85 if you ever decide to go that way in the future.

I'm sure the local LR wreckers up your way will have plenty.


Paul style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Gee's I must have got a bargain,,,
bought a steel disco rim as a second spare from MR in Brisbane for $30,,,,

[tdi130dualcab]

The 130 rims cost alot, but they are strong as hell. They wiegh at least 3 times as much as the standard and disco rims and I challenge any one to bend or buckle one (been there, have lost it at "bad" speeds off road to the level of buckling a standard steel or cracking a mag and havn't damaged one yet)

[Mick-Kelly]

i'll agree with that the 130 rims i had were near indestructable. Also I beleive Andersons was sellng some wolf rims a while ago as well as the rarer landrover split rims.
cheers
Mick

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by Turtle61
Looking at Kumho's website...

The only Kumho website I could find was at www.kumho.com.au and it only has a single page with contact details - no info on it at all ? Perhaps there is another site somewhere ?

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by lewy110
I run white eight spokes that are 16x7 and go well with 235/85r16's

What brand ? How much ? From where ? and how are they going - any comments on long term ownership... ?


Also anyone who runs Disco 16x7's on a Defender I'd be interested in your comments.


Goblin (I think it was you) who mentioned Pro_Comp - and good steel wheels. I'd love some more details...

Thanks ppls.

[VladTepes]

Starting to look like I'm the only one on here :roll:

Thought I'd ask another really stupid question while I was here.

Would my Kumho Venture AT's be tubeless or have a tube ?

(and depending on that answer...) are 110, 130, Disco rims made for tubed or tubeless tyres ?

Ta.

[Mick-Kelly]

Disco rims are tubeless and your tyres are tubeless. Ive seen heaps of defenders getting around on disco steel rims.
cheers
Mick

[VladTepes]

Thanks Mick.

[Defender200Tdi]

Vlad

My Defender is running (unmodified) Disco rims. I'm sure you've seen pictures of it before. If not, it's in the gallery. Tyres are 255/85x16 BFG M/T.


Paul style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[VladTepes]

Paul did you need to alter the bump stops to reduce the steering lock at all to run those rims and tyres ?

[Defender200Tdi]

I did alter the steering lock stops because the inside edge of the tyres rubbed slightly on the front radius arms on full lock. It only took a couple of minutes with an open ended spanner. Bear in mind that my lock stops would have been set for the standard rims and narrow 7.50x16 tyres that were originally fitted. Even with 235/85 I would probably have had to make some ajustment.


Paul style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[One Ten]

Hi guys

just spent 6 months trying to **** out whether i could fit Disco rims on the 130, and after various and conflicting answers decided just to give it a go, off came the orginal rims and on went the disco steel rims, with 244x75x16 cooper Discoverer S/T's fitted a treat, now they rub a little on full stop, and i can adjust the lock stops to over come this, but decided to leave it, as only on full stop when going very slow and if i need it in the bush (3 point turn on a narrow track in a 130 -almost impossible) left them be.

Very pleased with the set up.

Now i agree the orginal wheels are stronger, then are also tubed wheels, and after numerous experiences with flat tyres after a trip down the beach ( let the tyres down and sand gets into the trye and wears the tube out) decided that tubeless were a must.

The disco steel rims i picked up from my local tyre dealer who had fitted a set of alloys and then had these for if i rememder correctly for 3 years but were as good as new, these only cost me $200.00 for all 4 and now have 2 sets of tyres plus 2 spares, gee too many tyres, but can never have enough.

hope this helps, just remember everywhere i went including my LR dealer, tyre/wheel dealer did not know that the 110 and 130 had different offsets, and as a rule they only listed the defender and not the 90, 100 and 130 seperately.

Good luck

Paul

[VladTepes]

Thanks for all the advice peoples. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I have got my hands on total of 6 steel Disco rims and they are off to the powdercoaters (they have to be white!).

Once I get the tyres changed over, and put them on the truck, I might even take me a pitcha. :!: 8)

(Won't be ready for the weekend though, Incy, so you'll get to check out the 'before' version) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif