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Defender Mike
11th February 2014, 06:43 PM
I gave up trying to buy the lay gear for my Fairey overdrive I searched all over the world and there are no new ones available. The second hand ones looked a bit dicky so that only left one way out ,make one. I know a good gear cutting firm in Perth who have done work for me before but someone else was paying for it. It's not cheap to make one offs but now I have a program and the correct hob to do the job. If anyone else is after a lay gear RTC 7192 I can make one. Another one off will be expensive but if I run off 10 or more the price comes down. Craddocks where interested in getting some for the UK market as well.
Mike

russellrovers
11th February 2014, 07:00 PM
hi mike i have oe in the shed jim

Defender Mike
16th February 2014, 10:15 PM
I needed a new one Russel all the other bits are new and if I put a used one in then everything would wear very quickly. Anyweay its all done if you have a brand new one still wrapped in grease in let me know.
Mike

russellrovers
20th February 2014, 08:31 PM
I needed a new one Russel all the other bits are new and if I put a used one in then everything would wear very quickly. Anyweay its all done if you have a brand new one still wrapped in grease in let me know.
Mikehi mike in greece but second hand good im

TheRobban
16th March 2014, 10:16 PM
Hi there. I am keen on getting one of these, they are very hard to find. The one you got made looks very good. What material is it made of and is it hardened or is the material itself hard enough to resist wear and the bearing pressure? Perhaps it is made in the same manner and material as the original? I live in Sweden and an approximate price on carriage and the RTC7192 would be nice.

russellrovers
17th March 2014, 10:27 AM
I needed a new one Russel all the other bits are new and if I put a used one in then everything would wear very quickly. Anyweay its all done if you have a brand new one still wrapped in grease in let me know.
Mike hi mike can i speak to you on the phone jim i need your number

russellrovers
17th March 2014, 01:35 PM
Hi there. I am keen on getting one of these, they are very hard to find. The one you got made looks very good. What material is it made of and is it hardened or is the material itself hard enough to resist wear and the bearing pressure? Perhaps it is made in the same manner and material as the original? I live in Sweden and an approximate purice on carriage and the RTC7192 would be nice.
hi available is a output gear shaft part no rtc7176 second hand regards jim

russellrovers
17th March 2014, 03:08 PM
Hi there. I am keen on getting one of these, they are very hard to find. The one you got made looks very good. What material is it made of and is it hardened or is the material itself hard enough to resist wear and the bearing pressure? Perhaps it is made in the same manner and material as the original? I live in Sweden and an approximate price on carriage and the RTC7192 would be nice.
hi also lay gear rtc7192 regards jim

TheRobban
21st March 2014, 03:42 AM
Does it seem to happen anything with craddocks or any other vendor? I am still interested in the price for making just one as well. I am not very interested in a worn second hand.

Defender Mike
24th March 2014, 12:35 AM
Hi there. I am keen on getting one of these, they are very hard to find. The one you got made looks very good. What material is it made of and is it hardened or is the material itself hard enough to resist wear and the bearing pressure? Perhaps it is made in the same manner and material as the original? I live in Sweden and an approximate price on carriage and the RTC7192 would be nice.
Hi Robban
My lay shaft was made by a very good gear cutting firm here in Perth then sent to Another company here that builds crushers for mining . They did the hardening. It's identical to the original part all coordinates are stored in the CNC lathe and the gear hob is fairly new. My one off cost $800 Aus another one off would be the same plus freight to Sweden . It may be easier to find a good firm over there to do the same.
Mike:)

russellrovers
25th March 2014, 12:50 PM
Does it seem to happen anything with craddocks or any other vendor? I am still interested in the price for making just one as well. I am not very interested in a worn second hand.hi robban have taken rtc 192 to top gear shop that works on boats they said very even wear good for a 100.000 mile as long as keep up the oil to it the price on this part is 350 dollors and free postage to sweden or any other part of the world regards jim

Nobby07836
7th November 2015, 07:22 AM
Hi guys,
i am the proud owner of 6 Fairey overdrives that i have collected over the years. Only one of them is any good and its got a pretty well worn laygear.
It still made it a lap of Australia "Lap of Oz in a series2a" was the thread title, but it isnt up to the next epic journey which will be Singapore to UK. So i have to do something.
Before i left Perth after the end of the last journey leg i tried to get some joy out of a couple of local gear manufacturers and it amounted nothing.
Now i have some time on my hands back in the uk i did some digging around and have got prices from two very capable gear manufacturers. Both have been in business over 70 years and one even makes parts for F1 cars.
Both have a few old vehicle enthusiasts i think and i was met with very positive replies. I will in the coming weeks take the complete overdrive to them for some analysis of why the laygear fails. I know from lots of forum posts the various theories like overheating, not enough oil, etc etc but it would be nice to get an expert opinion.
One of the companies has made a new crown wheel and pinion for a friend of my fathers vintage Bugatti. All perfect,,,, but very expensive!
I am confident that the new gears will be better than the old ones and we really have no choice as there are no originals left.

Now the bottom line is that i can get one made for myself and it will cost me X. If i get 10 made it will be X-1, if i get 20 made it will be X-2.
I'm not out to make anything out of this but, if i can help any of you get a decent quality part for a reasonable cost and keep some old Landys doing overland adventures like we did i'm happy.
Just as initial ball park figures i have been told around ?300 ea if i get 10 made.
Maybe with the exchange rate how it is right now thats not so cheap but at lease it will be a top quality part.
Better than some rubbish thats made for LRs !

Cheers,

Nobby