Forum thoughts on D4 BULL BAR RUNOUT - $2,675 fitted

[David Hannett]

Hi all
Just had this drop in my mailbox from Landrover and wondered what the opinions of others on the forum are regards the Landover OEM Bulbar quality, practicality, value and price? Very happy to hear all your views. Cheers David
Quote Landrover:
The Genuine Land Rover Bull Bar for Discovery 4 is now available at a very special offer price, in strictly limited numbers. Its strong aluminium alloy construction is crash-tested and complies with all Australian design requirements. It’s factory approved and designed to work in conjunction with Discovery 4’s Airbag System, and Parking Sensor and Surround Camera Systems.If your Discovery was built between the years 2010-2013 inclusive, the Bull Bar can be bought and fitted by your Land Rover dealer for the special recommended retail price of $2,675. This is 28% less than the normal RRP including fitment.

[Tombie]

Useless piece of bling!!!

Whilst not as aggressive as a ARB/TJM they also aren't in the league for protection either!

[Redback]

Useless piece of bling!!!

Whilst not as aggressive as a ARB/TJM they also aren't in the league for protection either!


You forgot to mention FUGLY AS;)

[gusthedog]

Thank god my D2 came with a bull bar. Nearly 3 grand for a runout ? WTF:mad:. At that price I'd just claim on insurance when you hit a skippy. Will work out cheaper in the long run. :D

[captcam68]

Ditto all the above! It has got to be the worst looking accessory ever made by LR. Don't like the stainless look for starters as it detracts from the front of the car, fitted with next to no separation between the front end and the bar itself.

They should have done a deal with ARB or EC, designed in the UK where the largest animal your likely to hit is a hedge hog:p From what i understand, and correct me if I'm wrong but the airbag sensors work on forces of deceleration which occur on impact. They have crash tested the LR bar and know that it works where as i don't believe they have crash tested any of the ARB or EC bars actually on a D3 /D4 so can't officially say that they are air bag compatible.

I have been unfortunate to have sent 1 med. and to XL skippy's to skippy heaven with no damage whatsoever to the car!

[101RRS]

any of the ARB or EC bars actually on a D3 /D4 so can't officially say that they are air bag compatible.

Yes they do - bars have to be certified to the vehicle to be fitted legally so are air bag compatible for the D3/D4

[Scouse]

designed in the UK where the largest animal your likely to hit is a hedge hog:p It's actually designed in Australia. The handmade (completely fabricated, not pressed) prototype is hanging above my old office.

[chuck]

David

For that sort of money you should be able to get an ARB or OL Bullbar c/w winch.

At one stage it was thought that the ARB or OL bull bar might affect your warranty due to concerns over extra weight on the air suspension.

Subsequent investigation by Robert Pepper found that this was not the case as the removal of bar & irons to fit bull bar balanced it self out, this also applies to winch fitment.

Thus it would be very difficult for Landrover to prove the fitment of brand name bulbar caused mechanical problems & then deny warranty claim.

[captcam68]

Oops stand corrected on most counts then,:( it was the LR rep that told me about the crash testing at the LR stand at last years castle hill show. It might have been an idea to offer / show one of the bars colour coded, it just looks a bit Hummerish (bling) in my opinion.

[Redback]

David

For that sort of money you should be able to get an ARB or OL Bullbar c/w winch.

At one stage it was thought that the ARB or OL bull bar might affect your warranty due to concerns over extra weight on the air suspension.

Subsequent investigation by Robert Pepper found that this was not the case as the removal of bar & irons to fit bull bar balanced it self out, this also applies to winch fitment.

Thus it would be very difficult for Landrover to prove the fitment of brand name bulbar caused mechanical problems & then deny warranty claim.

They still do it though, trust me I know first hand:twisted:

[discotwinturbo]

They still do it though, trust me I know first hand:twisted:

Would it not be as simple as weighing the front of the car and showing its within the weight specified by LR ? Then LR don't have a leg to stand on.

Brett....

[Tombie]

They still do it though, trust me I know first hand:twisted:


More detail please! What was the claim and circumstances?

[gghaggis]

Would it not be as simple as weighing the front of the car and showing its within the weight specified by LR ? Then LR don't have a leg to stand on.

Brett....

It's not the same weight though. From what I recall of the conversation with rmp (without doing a search), we agreed that there was a weight difference, but not as much an increase as you would expect, because some weight is removed from the car for fitment.

I had unfortunately thrown out all the superfluous bits when I fitted mine, so couldn't arrive at an exact difference. But it was fairly obvious that a bull-bar fitted D3 would raise more slowly at the front than a standard one.

[Edit - of course, LR themselves sell a winch + mounting kit for the D3/D4, so the argument would be that the car should still be able to function within it's design parameters if you fitted a steel bull-bar]

Cheers,

Gordon

[Silenceisgolden]

With the ARB fitted, neither the grill nor the headlights can be removed without removing the bullbar. While slim hands just might be able to change a headlight globe, there is no way of changing the indicator globes.

If I had my time over, I would buy the LR genuine one - presuming it doesn't have the same problem.

[Tombie]

With the ARB fitted, neither the grill nor the headlights can be removed without removing the bullbar. While slim hands just might be able to change a headlight globe, there is no way of changing the indicator globes.

If I had my time over, I would buy the LR genuine one - presuming it doesn't have the same problem.

You must have HUGE hands, as even my hands dont have a problem doing the bulbs with an ARB bar...

I can recommend though, if it is a concern, fit LED bulbs in the parker lights before bolting up the bar :)

[Redback]

More detail please! What was the claim and circumstances?

I won't go into the finer details, but we had a water leak and they(dealer and LRA) claimed the bullbar was bending the car causing it to leak:eek: this was after blaming the rear bar snorkel and windscreen, after much jumping up and down they looked at the car bit by bit, starting at the back, they pulled the car apart, each time sending a report back to LRA they then approve the next part of the car, finally finding an air bubble in the sealant at the front corner of the car, did we get an apology after it was found to be a manufacturing fault, NO we got a nasty letter saying we were on a restricted warranty for highly modified vehicles:twisted:

It all hinges on how you get on with your dealer, I guess they didn't like us being sick of getting the run around, we have taken it to other dealers and had no issues, but this dealer just wants to be a bully.

Baz.

[captcam68]

I fitted after market LR copied head light guards on my old D3 which involved removing the headlights with my ARB bar fitted. The trickiest part was just getting the vertical slide catches to line up to refit them.:confused:if you go to the show us your discovery blog there are the before and after pics with the guards fitted ( atacama sand 2009 ) page 41

[SBD4]

They have to be kidding on the weight argument... just point the dealer to their own winch and tray option integrated into the existing bumper. bloody heavy. I wouldn't say there'd be much difference between that and ARB/ECB/OL etc

[Redback]

They have to be kidding on the weight argument... just point the dealer to their own winch and tray option integrated into the existing bumper. bloody heavy. I wouldn't say there'd be much difference between that and ARB/ECB/OL etc

Did that, no response, anyway the car runs out of warranty soon, so will be glad to see the back of them.

Will never ever buy a new Land Rover again and will and have gone out of my way to tell other not too, I don't like being yelled at for something that ended up being a manufacturing fault and the issue was first raised prior to fitting our accessories, but that didn't seem to matter.

Baz.

[Yorkie]

Did that, no response, anyway the car runs out of warranty soon, so will be glad to see the back of them.

Will never ever buy a new Land Rover again and will and have gone out of my way to tell other not too, I don't like being yelled at for something that ended up being a manufacturing fault and the issue was first raised prior to fitting our accessories, but that didn't seem to matter.

Baz.

Trading in for that amorok then! ;)

[BMKal]

They still do it though, trust me I know first hand:twisted:

Must be a dud dealer you've got over there.

My ARB winch bar was supplied & fitted by the ARB store just around the corner from the LR dealer where I bought the Disco. The LR dealer recommended them to me and even arranged the booking (the LR OEM bar had not been released onto the market at that time).

The only part of their recommendation that I did not go along with was to wait a bit longer for a colour-matched bar. I travel between Perth & Kalgoorlie regularly, and wanted something straight away (ARB had a black one available within a week). As it turns out, I actually prefer the black bar on the white D4 in any case.

Have so far cleaned up 3 roos with it (only one of which was what I'd call a pretty solid hit) - no sign of any damage to the bar or vehicle.

And I don't have any problem with getting at the light globes to change them when I need to. ;)

[Silenceisgolden]

You must have HUGE hands, as even my hands dont have a problem doing the bulbs with an ARB bar...

I can recommend though, if it is a concern, fit LED bulbs in the parker lights before bolting up the bar :)

Nope, ordinary hands, but a crook back means that leaning over the bonnet area for an extended period is difficult.
Good suggestion about the LED's, but the bar was dealer fitted so I would have to remove it to do so. I will wait until a globe blows.....
I broke off the two lower grill pegs so that I can remove the grill - essential for cleaning bugs out of the radiator.
It irks me a bit that LR engineers made a great, simple, no tools headlight and grill removal system and ARB negated it by slack design.

[AnD3rew]

Did that, no response, anyway the car runs out of warranty soon, so will be glad to see the back of them.

Will never ever buy a new Land Rover again and will and have gone out of my way to tell other not too, I don't like being yelled at for something that ended up being a manufacturing fault and the issue was first raised prior to fitting our accessories, but that didn't seem to matter.

Baz.

Been there done that. I hate Land Rover Australia. But I am too stupid to learn from my mistake and I am on my third:eek: but it is despite LRA not because of them that I kept going.

They don't seem to have heard of customer service or to understand loyalty. I have been blamed several times for manufacturing defects, their default position sends to be to find some way to deny a warranty claim.

[mowog]

Its strange when you hear different stories around warranty outcomes. My D4 over the years has had problems. I even wore out the rear shocks from towing the van when it came to replace the shocks and airbags there was no argument it was just done and this has been the case with every warranty claim I have made even under the extended warranty.

The Front Bar question... well my D4 is booked in for the Land Rover bar to be fitted I know its not to every ones taste but to me neither is that looks the same as one fitted to a Prado (ARB Bar).

Steel vs Alloy I seen all the arguments and my take is its better to have something there than nothing if it gets bent then insurance will fix it.

[baldivistribe]

Can I be different and say I actually quite like the Land Rover shiny bar. For 2600 fitted it is similar in price to that other vehicle manufacturers bar.
I am toying with the idea of fitting one. The finance minister has approved the spending. I would like to know if any one here has had it fitted.
Cheers
Steve

[tonyci]

Steve
I saw one on a D4 today looked ok, nice neat fit.
I have an ARB bar because I needed (wanted) a winch, the land rover bar can not mount a winch.
Cheers
Tony

[Tombie]

It all depends on your use...
If you rarely go where impacts are likely the factory bar may suffice.

If you regularly go to the bush then the more rigid aftermarket units are more suited to your needs.

[Tombie]

The Front Bar question... well my D4 is booked in for the Land Rover bar to be fitted I know its not to every ones taste but to me neither is that looks the same as one fitted to a Prado (ARB Bar).




Interesting - to each their own, they still bear a striking resemblance!

73598

73599

[SimmAus]

I actually don't mind the shape/styling of the LR bar, but wish it wasn't so "bling" and had the option of a Matt or powder coated finish. As a really minor detail, I like the "Landrover" lettering on the bar, but I suppose this will soon change to "Discovery". ;-)
Re: alloy vs steel... So many positions on this, so whatever suits you best. Winch capacity could be a real killer, for me if I put on a bar, I would want a winch mount also; but again, depends on your circumstance/driving conditions.
Either way, the "special" is quite a saving from list price, but more aligned with the other options in market.

[letherm]

I also looked at the LR bar. I didn't mind the style but didn't like the chrome mainly because of reflected light and having to keep it polished. I had a polished alloy on my last car and had a problem with light bouncing back off it. I saw one fitted to a car in a dealer last week and it had two straps running back to under the bonnet from the top of the bar. They didn't look solid and I wondered then if the bar would be strong.

I have an ECB bar with a hammertone finish fitted to my MY13 D4. It's a white car so it goes well with that. Some wouldn't like the look of that either but it's personal taste so if you like it what does it matter. As far as a winch is concerned, I don't plan on one yet but it's nice to have the capability there.

BTW you don't actually need a bar to have a winch fitted. The instructor's car at the get to know your car day, that I recently attended, had a winch fitted without a bar. Never seen that before.

[Hoges]

Trading in for that amorok then! ;)

Then when you have REAL problems they'll yell at you in German instead!!:eek::wasntme:

[Redback]

Then when you have REAL problems they'll yell at you in German instead!!:eek::wasntme:

Had great service from our 2 VW Dealers so far, our first encounter with VW assit was not very pleasant, second time was excellent, I think it was the RACV guy the first time, haven't had any dramas with VW yet.

Baz.

[NTB]

Hello All,

I know some of you have the Land Rover Bull Bar already fitted.
I have looked at some photo's on the Web and have a couple of questions.
Is the original front bumper bar intact with the fitted Land Rover Bull Bar?
Are the front wheel arch flares cut to size to fit the Land Rover Bull Bar?

I know some of you have the ECB Bull Bar already fitted.
Are the front wheel arch flares cut to size to fit the ECB Bull Bar?
Is any other part of the car cut to fit the ECB Bull Bar?

NTB

[jonesy63]

Interesting - to each their own, they still bear a striking resemblance!

Stevie Wonder designed both? :wasntme:

[letherm]

Hello All,

I know some of you have the ECB Bull Bar already fitted.
Are the front wheel arch flares cut to size to fit the ECB Bull Bar?
Is any other part of the car cut to fit the ECB Bull Bar?

NTB

The wheel arch flare is not cut. From what I can see the bumper bar is removed and the bull bar fitted without any cutting. It sits below the headlight. There is a gap between the bar and the body work that I can put my fingers into comfortably. Tried to take a photo for you but it's no good in the dark. I'll do it in daylight and post it for you.

Here is a link to the web site. Their photos show it well.

https://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=41&SEARCH2.y=10&SEARCH2=SEARCH

[letherm]

The wheel arch flare is not cut. From what I can see the bumper bar is removed and the bull bar fitted without any cutting. It sits below the headlight. There is a gap between the bar and the body work that I can put my fingers into comfortably. Tried to take a photo for you but it's no good in the dark. I'll do it in daylight and post it for you.

Here is a link to the web site. Their photos show it well.

https://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=41&SEARCH2.y=10&SEARCH2=SEARCH

Pictures as promised

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1102.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1103.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1104.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1105.jpg

[Tombie]

Things to consider...
Most Roo strikes are glancing or corner blows - some bars will flex easier than others at this point and do panel damage.

The units that leave the flare intact run the risk of the bottom of the flare getting caught up offroad, causing it to rip away or be damaged.

To take impact without damaging the vehicle required deflection area - closer to the body the more likely the hit will cause damage.

[dazray]

Have you got I pic of how the whole bar looks on the white disco?

[letherm]

Have you got I pic of how the whole bar looks on the white disco?

Here you go.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1098.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/653.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1099.jpg

[letherm]

[QUOTE=Tombie;2100143]Things to consider...

.The units that leave the flare intact run the risk of the bottom of the flare getting caught up offroad, causing it to rip away or be damaged [QUOTE]

Tombie, I take your point about the flare possibly getting caught up off road but I must say cosmetically I think it looks better with the flare intact. :) Certainly something to consider though - I must admit it hadn't crossed my mind at all.

[nat_89]

Here you go.



That bull bar looks great mate!! Just wondering what are the thoughts on the Land Rover bullbar with regards to hitting a roo or something I don't mind the look of them.

[letherm]

That bull bar looks great mate!! Just wondering what are the thoughts on the Land Rover bullbar with regards to hitting a roo or something I don't mind the look of them.

Thanks.

I like the look of it too (obviously) but it's not to everyone's taste. From what I've read on this forum the majority don't think the LR would hold up too well to a roo hit. As Tombie mentioned earlier in this thread, the LR bar is almost on top of the body panels unlike the ECB bar for example (don't know about other bars personally). I too didn't mind the look of the LR bar but turned to ECB because of opinion here about the LR bar plus the cost. I fitted the ECB bar, a Milford cargo barrier, a GME radio and Fyrlyt driving lights for little more than the LR bar fitted. The ECB bar also allowed the front sensors to be used. If you look at the pics you'll see two white dots. These are the sensors from the original bumper bar fitted to the ECB bar. The other two are black.

Martin

[nat_89]

Thanks.

I like the look of it too (obviously) but it's not to everyone's taste. From what I've read on this forum the majority don't think the LR would hold up too well to a roo hit. As Tombie mentioned earlier in this thread, the LR bar is almost on top of the body panels unlike the ECB bar for example (don't know about other bars personally). I too didn't mind the look of the LR bar but turned to ECB because of opinion here about the LR bar plus the cost. I fitted the ECB bar, a Milford cargo barrier, a GME radio and Fyrlyt driving lights for little more than the LR bar fitted. The ECB bar also allowed the front sensors to be used. If you look at the pics you'll see two white dots. These are the sensors from the original bumper bar fitted to the ECB bar. The other two are black.

Martin

Thank you very much sorry for the late reply I'll look into it cheers.

[BMKal]

I don't mind the look of that ECB bar from the front either - and I know that ECB make a good solid bar (there's an alloy one on my old D2 that my young bloke has now, and I've cleaned up my fair share of roos with that one). ;)

But I also agree that preference for appearance is dependent on the individual. While I like the look of that bar from the front - the side view with the wheel arches left intact just doesn't look right to me. I prefer the ARB style where the arches / flares are cut off and the side of the bar extends back to the wheel arches ................. but that's just my opinion. :D

What do you think of the Fyrlyt's ...............

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1016.jpg

[Tombie]

What do you think of the Fyrlyt's ...............

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1016.jpg

Awesome looking vehicle there mate :cool:

Want some "Terrain Response" Icon Stickers for it?

And the FYRLYTS are worth every cent.... :)

[letherm]

I don't mind the look of that ECB bar from the front either - and I know that ECB make a good solid bar (there's an alloy one on my old D2 that my young bloke has now, and I've cleaned up my fair share of roos with that one). ;)

But I also agree that preference for appearance is dependent on the individual. While I like the look of that bar from the front - the side view with the wheel arches left intact just doesn't look right to me. I prefer the ARB style where the arches / flares are cut off and the side of the bar extends back to the wheel arches ................. but that's just my opinion. :D

What do you think of the Fyrlyt's ...............

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/1016.jpg

The Fyrlyts provide a very good spread of light. It is most noticeable when you turn them off but leave the high beam on. You realise just how much more of the scenery that you can see than without them. I haven't been out in the country at night as yet but I am certainly very happy with them. I based my decision to buy on easily replaceable componentry, local support (buy Australian), the build and materials quality and their performance. I read a lot of reviews as well as forum discussion here which is where I first heard about them. Had Ralleyes on my last 4wd and these are better IMHO.

Martin

[BMKal]

Awesome looking vehicle there mate :cool:

Want some "Terrain Response" Icon Stickers for it?

And the FYRLYTS are worth every cent.... :)

Thanks Tombie. Some Terrain Response stickers would be great. I remember you posting about the Fyrlyts a while back and have often thought about trying a set. The blue things on it are Britax X-Ray Vision HID's. Not bad, but not as good as the Hella Predators.

I took the Predators off a while back as the globes in them were finally beginning to give up the ghost, and Hella wanted a ridiculous price for new ones. They've been on at least 4 different vehicles now over more than 10 years (the old style Predators with external ballast) - and the output from the globes eventually dropped off and went yellow.

Have now got a new set of globes for them - for nothing - it pays to have the right contacts through work - so will probably put them back together and re-fit them one day when I get the time.


The Fyrlyts provide a very good spread of light. It is most noticeable when you turn them off but leave the high beam on. You realise just how much more of the scenery that you can see than without them. I haven't been out in the country at night as yet but I am certainly very happy with them. I based my decision to buy on easily replaceable componentry, local support (buy Australian), the build and materials quality and their performance. I read a lot of reviews as well as forum discussion here which is where I first heard about them. Had Ralleyes on my last 4wd and these are better IMHO.

Martin

Cheers Martin. Good to also get another opinion on these. My young bloke might be in the market for a set soon - he recently asked me should he buy Fyrlyts, Lightforce or Roo Lights. :o

I told him to look at a set of Fyrlyts purely based on a post I had seen on here by Tombie some time ago.

[andymac]

Can I be different and say I actually quite like the Land Rover shiny bar. For 2600 fitted it is similar in price to that other vehicle manufacturers bar.
I am toying with the idea of fitting one. The finance minister has approved the spending. I would like to know if any one here has had it fitted.
Cheers
Steve



I managed to find a genuine bar on ebay for $1,100 earlier in the year and being fairly handy with the spanners figured that it couldn’t be that hard to fit. After reading the 30+ pages of double sided instructions and a long weekend spent in the shed I stand corrected, however imho the results were worth the effort.
As far as protection goes the factory bar is an improvement over the plastic bumper and would be ok for small roos but it's nowhere near as solid as an arb/ecb bull bar.
Andy

[mowog]

Mine is getting fitted next week. I only need a light duty bar so for me this works. I will post pics when its done.

[mowog]

Job Done!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/644.jpg

[sheerluck]

Mmmmm, shiny!

[rufusking]

Nice. Any chance of a couple of pics showing the clearance to the bonnet, guard etc?

[mowog]

Nice. Any chance of a couple of pics showing the clearance to the bonnet, guard etc?

When I get a chance I will get the shots for you.

[LeeThal]

To provide an alternate perspective I've just had an OL steel bar fitted which I had painted the same as the vehicle (Stornaway Grey). Total $2200. Includes front under guard and all the sensors work and, it's made no difference to the handling. :)

[nat_89]

When I get a chance I will get the shots for you.

Mate must say it looks great looks really nice!!

[Duke4]

To provide an alternate perspective I've just had an OL steel bar fitted which I had painted the same as the vehicle (Stornaway Grey). Total $2200. Includes front under guard and all the sensors work and, it's made no difference to the handling. :)

LeeThal, any chance of posting up a pic?
Mines Stornaway Grey also and was looking at the OL bar interesting to see how it looks painted.

[LeeThal]

Until I add the driving lights, winch panel and ....
74707
74708

[rufusking]

Can you remove the grill with the bar in place?

[Tombie]

Can you remove the grill with the bar in place?


No...

[Geedublya]

I can on mine.... Grill yes, headlights no.

[discotwinturbo]

Grill easy to remove, and get the light out enough to remove the bulbs with ease....on an OL bar.

Brett....

[LeeThal]

Can you remove the grill with the bar in place?

Grill removal is easy, headlight assembly .... no

[Tombie]

I don't understand this infatuation with light removal.

Pop bonnet, change globes.. Easy...

[gusthedog]

I don't understand this infatuation with light removal.

Pop bonnet, change globes.. Easy...

Well I don't understand why people put ugly shiny bull bars on a good looking vehicle and make them look like **** :wasntme:

[Bandi1950]

D4 with a OL roobar colour coded Stornaway grey.

[Tombie]

Well I don't understand why people put ugly shiny bull bars on a good looking vehicle and make them look like **** :wasntme:


In my case - without the bar work my Landies wouldn't look very pretty at all.. :)

When you live / travel in regions with Kangaroos, Goats, Foxes, Emus etc... There is a great risk that the front won't remain the same for long.

My bar work has saved myself (and everyone who insures) from expense and increased premiums!
After all - each claim has an effect on everyone's insurance premium as companies balance out costs.

I do agree that the factory vehicle looks sweet - but function needs to exceed form in use.

:D

[BMKal]

D4 with a OL roobar colour coded Stornaway grey.

That looks good - suits the vehicle well. ;)

[gusthedog]

In my case - without the bar work my Landies wouldn't look very pretty at all.. :)

When you live / travel in regions with Kangaroos, Goats, Foxes, Emus etc... There is a great risk that the front won't remain the same for long.

My bar work has saved myself (and everyone who insures) from expense and increased premiums!
After all - each claim has an effect on everyone's insurance premium as companies balance out costs.

I do agree that the factory vehicle looks sweet - but function needs to exceed form in use.

:D

It's only the shiny ones I don't like Toombie!:D

I think the ARB bars and OL steel bars look the ducks guts for example. I've always hated shiny alloy bull bars though. They don't look good, won't stand up to a decent roo strike and make a nice vehicle look like it has some tin foil stapled to the front. Just my humble opinion of course.... :)

[tiddy]

I was at the dealer today trying to confirm the delivery date for my Discovery & the topic of the LR bar came up - pardon the pun.

Anyway I was told the dealers have been advised by LR these bars will not fit onto the MY14 models. Fact or fiction, I don't know.

tiddy

[discotwinturbo]

I was at the dealer today trying to confirm the delivery date for my Discovery & the topic of the LR bar came up - pardon the pun. Anyway I was told the dealers have been advised by LR these bars will not fit onto the MY14 models. Fact or fiction, I don't know. tiddy

According to the ad from LR that this thread stemmed from....that's correct.

Brett....