County suspention

[85 county]

OK take a std country load leveler and all.
add std defender rear springs.
add toymotor 60 series pattern front shocks and dislocation cones.

she walks over every thing really nice, on road is ok no sway bar and ADF donate shocks on the back

As well all know counties sit level and not bum up like defenders

Now loaded up she sits bum down, so that’s weight and with the cones up front that adds 1/2 an inch there. i also have rubber touching guards.

so what’s the best way to jump without mucking things up.

[uninformed]

is the load leveller in good working order?

[85 county]

is the load leveller in good working order?

yes, but i cant get a counth A frame ball joint so used a defender one, wich is about 1/2" shorter. plus packing up the front with cones and retainer and lifted that end

[workingonit]

Tried MR Automotive in case they have a work around?

[dullbird]

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Gentleman please behave

[85 county]

Tried MR Automotive in case they have a work around?

ok no luck there. the longer ball joints which were, adjustable, screw and spring disappeared around 87, apparently they are also the reason for the sagging RR back ends.

Get the springs lengthened, or fit spring packers. The latter will limit travel.

Need a spring guru, what std LR springs are longer but not stronger

[workingonit]

I just order the adjustable and serviceable ball from MR Auto. They also have the lengthened one required where people have lifted the vehicle significantly - not sure by the sounds of it that this is the one you need. Post a photo so others might work it out. I did have a look on the web but couldn't find any reference to differences. I assume yours is part of a boge unit.

[uninformed]

I thought the LL only pumped up when you drove off?

As for the sagging rear of RRC Id say that would be more to do with the springs than the ball joint length

[85 county]

they do pump-up when they drive off. but to a predetermined height. so if the ball joint is shorter then they height will translate to being lower. regardless of the springs sagging or not its the same with the RR fitted with LL

[85 county]

I just order the adjustable and serviceable ball from MR Auto. They also have the lengthened one required where people have lifted the vehicle significantly - not sure by the sounds of it that this is the one you need. Post a photo so others might work it out. I did have a look on the web but couldn't find any reference to differences. I assume yours is part of a boge unit.

i think that is the solution. and yes the boge unit. i no longer have the original ball joint but it was like a really old school ball joint, with a screw spring and ball cap to adjust out any slack.

i had a look at the ball joints you sagested and will ring them again tomorrow. i can not see a taper on it in the photo

[uninformed]

that makes sense.

So if LR changed the length of the ball joint, what else did the change, because I cant see them sending out vehicles with sagging rear ends to the showroom???

[uninformed]

i think that is the solution. and yes the boge unit. i no longer have the original ball joint but it was like a really old school ball joint, with a screw spring and ball cap to adjust out any slack.

i had a look at the ball joints you sagested and will ring them again tomorrow. i can not see a taper on it in the photo

The MD ball joints were originally designed and manfactured by Mal Story as an answer to LR changing to a non servicable, non adjustable ball joint in the LR and RRCs. He later came up with the longer version when he was doing the bolt on portal boxes. That allowed for more link seperation at the axle to deal with the great forces the portals put on them. It just got picked up by guys doing spring lifts.

They are greasbale and adjustable. The bolt straight in and have the same stock taper

[workingonit]

A pain probably, but see a machine shop if they can turn something out for you, or more simply modify something.

[uninformed]

I was speaking with a mate (long time LR guru) trying to find more info on the different ball joints. None to add to that, but he suggested to just space the ball joint mounting bracket up if it is a concern. The bracket on the Sals rear axle is bolted on, unlike the Rover and P38 type housings. If the original ball joint was 1/2 longer, just get some 12mm plate and cut it out and use longer bolts.

Or maybe the later mounts are taller??? something would have had to change along with the ball joint length....

[85 county]

A pain probably, but see a machine shop if they can turn something out for you, or more simply modify something.

had a thought, heading off on a difrent track, maybe an airbag or a large dia cylinder