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stewmair
12th March 2014, 06:32 AM
MY07 Disco3 183k. A few weeks ago sudden temporary reduction in power unladen on moderate hill. Then no problem pulling 2.5 tonne van to Dargo.
This weekend recurrent momentary reduction of power moderately laden climbing limit-of-traction Billy Goat Bluff. Then did other climbs without trouble. 
Pulling van home had recurrent temporary reduction of power climbing highway hills. Rested, turned off then had no further trouble.
At no time was there any warning light, black smoke or total loss of power.
Perhaps water or rubbish in fuel? Perhaps loss of turbo, but how would that happen intermittently? Perhaps computer but no warning.
Suggestions welcome.
theresanothersteve
12th March 2014, 07:41 AM
Have you noticed a change in fuel consumption, or an oily film throughout the engine bay? (Thinking hose developing a split)
CaverD3
12th March 2014, 08:38 AM
Split turbo hose or actuator sticking?
rb30gtr
12th March 2014, 09:19 AM
EGR starting to fail?
rb30gtr
12th March 2014, 09:19 AM
Dirty MAP Sensor?
101RRS
12th March 2014, 10:13 AM
Is DSC simply kicking in and reducing power?  Have you got it turned off?
captcam68
12th March 2014, 10:20 AM
I had near identical symptoms with my 2009 D3 at 75k
It turned out to be a EGR valve that was on the way out.
After much research on other sites the trend is for these EGR valves to
Play up after the 80k mark. I got it replaced at LR dealer under warranty
Took about 4 hours labour and about $680 for the part. One side is harder
To access then the other so expect 6 hours labour if that is the side. I ended
Up doing both for piece of mind as i was heading to the Cape
stewmair
13th March 2014, 05:23 AM
Thanks all.
Fuel consumption unchanged at 16.9 l/100k with 2.5t van. 
Turbo hose? Been there but no smoke this time. No oily film. 
May have been DSC on Billy Goat Bluff as I didn't always remember to turn it off.
Overall sounds very like EGRs which have never been touched.
Tinman
13th March 2014, 07:21 AM
Have you changed your fuel filter lately or if diesel, drained the water out if any using the drain at the bottom of fuel filter. If filter is blocked you will lose power under heavy load ie climbing hills etc. You may have got a bad lot of fuel on your trip.
captcam68
13th March 2014, 03:32 PM
185k with no EGR problems that's pretty amazing! I know where I'd be putting my money...... I investigated blanking them off as this is possible on d2's apparently but on D3 you will have permanent warning light on dash which will then mask any other faults connected to that fault light......
rb30gtr
14th March 2014, 07:23 AM
185k with no EGR problems that's pretty amazing! I know where I'd be putting my money...... I investigated blanking them off as this is possible on d2's apparently but on D3 you will have permanent warning light on dash which will then mask any other faults connected to that fault light......
Here you go:
LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 3 / RANGE ROVER SPORT TDV6 FULL EGR REMOVAL / BLANKING KIT | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-3-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-TDV6-FULL-EGR-REMOVAL-BLANKING-KIT-/141161389183)
Apparently: If you leave the EGR's in situ and they work the EM Light wont light up.
Also, word on the street is the EM light will only come on for MY07 D3 and newer.
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - EGR Valves - blank, replace, ignore? (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic108465.html?highlight=EGR)
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - EGR Blanking Differing Views (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic106144.html?highlight=EGR)
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rb30gtr
14th March 2014, 07:30 AM
185k with no EGR problems that's pretty amazing! I know where I'd be putting my money...... I investigated blanking them off as this is possible on d2's apparently but on D3 you will have permanent warning light on dash which will then mask any other faults connected to that fault light......
Oh and mine is at 188 with no egr issue *touch wood, I am blocking as a preventative measure.
stewmair
29th March 2014, 05:53 AM
After all that it was a faulty oil temperature sensor.....discovered by the diagnostics detecting its fault. Fairly simple replacement.
Petian
1st April 2014, 09:46 AM
This sounds like my problem, I loose power going up hills when towing revs go from over 3K to 1.5K surgeing this just happened going up out of Adelaide on the motorway so not that steep. I just came back from the cape with no probs, beside a wheel bearing, pulled a camper up through Vic high country, but now with a van I just make it up hills.  UK site states clean map sensor, where is it?  I have now done 250,000Ks MY07 TDV6. any suggestions?
CaverD3
1st April 2014, 11:22 AM
Take the engine cover off and you will find it on top of the engine at the back of the air intake,
Comes off with a tech screw bit. clean out with wd 40 or better still electrical cleaner.
stewmair
2nd April 2014, 02:03 PM
Oil temp sensor was removed, bench tested to confirm fault and replaced.
Diagnosed by MLR reading fault codes.
Still finding my Blackbox difficult.
Petian
11th April 2014, 01:12 PM
After looking at sites for the last week or so I have come to the conclucion to blank the egrs but as it is in a MY07 does any know a re mapper to get rid of the alarm if it comes on after doing it
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