Wheel alignment height

[wbowner]

Hi,
Just wandering at what height my new D4 should be set when you get a wheel alignment.
I guess it is the normal drive heigh but want to confirm.

Are most places aware of this or do you have to remind them.

It is a My 14 so it does not automatically drop down.

Thanks for any help,
Richard

[lpj]

There are a number of posts on this subject. "Officially", the vehicle is supposed to be put in "tight tolerance mode" which can only be done at the dealer or by someone who has the right equipment. I would very much doubt if your tyre place was able to do this or whether that are even aware of it.

There are a number on this forum that use other methods and seem to achieve a good result as well. Suggest you use the "google search" function at the bottom of the page, assuming you are on a full size web browser.

[nat_89]

Yeah ive had so much trouble getting a wheel alignment done id like to know the right way to!!!

[Epic pooh]

Having had many wheel alignments on my D3 (suspension repairs/maintenance etc), I can say that it needs to be in Tight Tolerance Mode and that some people are good at it, some are not ... one guy who has done mine gets it right but not feeling right ; another gets it feeling right but with the wheel not centre and then returns the wheel to centre not in tight tolerance mode ... voodoo to me ... but he's done it that way twice and it feels great / tyres wear evenly ... so good luck !

Over the years, IIDTool has almost paid for itself just in money saved on being able to put it in TTM for an alignment.

[morpheus]

Over the years, IIDTool has almost paid for itself just in money saved on being able to put it in TTM for an alignment.

Sounds like I need to get myself one of those. Where does one get such gadgets?

James

[Epic pooh]

I got mine from lrdirect.com, good service those guys, could probably get a better price somewhere else, but ordered on a Friday arrived Monday (!!). I think it cost about 400 bucks. I have the old / original model (you can now get a bluetooth version that lets you interact with the car via your iphone / (some) android phones).

Very useful device if you like to play with your D3 - best mod (for me) is clock in dash - mine is an 05 where the clock is only on the head unit so very happy to have it in the dash where I can actually read it (sad I know) !

[wbowner]

So what is tight tolerance mode.

Richard

[scomac]

Check "discotwinturbo's" posts, I think I read that he takes out the EAS relay before he gets the wheel alignment done, which stops it from lowering.

Cheers
Scott.

Apologies if I have this wrong:wasntme:

[discotwinturbo]

G'day Richard,

My first wheel alignment was done with ttr from my dealer, using my guy for the alignment. He showed me all measurements.

Next time, no ttr. I told my tyre guy that I read that if I remove the yellow 25amp fuse (third down from the front on the passenger side), then align. He reckoned he could do it without. He did the alignment. Went around the block, back on the aligner and all out.

So...he then agreed to try my way. I then fired up the D4, let it level, popped the bonnet and had him remove the fuse as above, a moment before I turned it off. Alignment done. Fuse put back in, went around the block, back on the aligner and all good....exactly the same.

Factory tyres have now done 50k (car has done 65k....15k on touring tyres), still wearing evenly and still atleast 15-20k left.

Literally a one minute job at each alignment (done everyone 10k).

Do this at normal height.

Works for me, and with much less time involved.

Brett....

[wbowner]

Hi
I have a MY14 D4 and it will stay in normal height even if I turn the car off.
I have to manually move it to the lower height.

So does this mean I would not have to pull any fuses or have I just missed something.

Richard

[discotwinturbo]

Richard,

Mine still stays in normal height, but when you hop out and turn off, the suspension will still move around.

Ttr stops this from occurring.....or removal of fuse.

Brett....

[nat_89]

G'day Richard,

My first wheel alignment was done with ttr from my dealer, using my guy for the alignment. He showed me all measurements.

Next time, no ttr. I told my tyre guy that I read that if I remove the yellow 25amp fuse (third down from the front on the passenger side), then align. He reckoned he could do it without. He did the alignment. Went around the block, back on the aligner and all out.

So...he then agreed to try my way. I then fired up the D4, let it level, popped the bonnet and had him remove the fuse as above, a moment before I turned it off. Alignment done. Fuse put back in, went around the block, back on the aligner and all good....exactly the same.

Factory tyres have now done 50k (car has done 65k....15k on touring tyres), still wearing evenly and still atleast 15-20k left.

Literally a one minute job at each alignment (done everyone 10k).

Do this at normal height.

Works for me, and with much less time involved.

Brett....

Thanks for that I will give it a whirl I've had so much trouble with alignments and only done 17000kms! Once the fuse goes back in all the faults clear I'm guessing?

[discotwinturbo]

Yep....straight away.

Brett....

[nat_89]

Yep....straight away.

Brett....

Thanks heaps so basically i take it to get a wheel alignment drive it on the machine in standard height leave it running and pop the bonnet remove the fuse shut it down, do the wheel alignment put the fuse back in and start it back up and all should be good and the alignment should be perfect?

[Greatsouthernland]

I shared this pain...until a friendly bloke at LR service centre told me about geometry mode setting needs to be set in neutral (something about geometry mode anyway).

The key point is that only LR service has the correct tool/programming to do this, so he told me any other wheel aligner or method is a waste of time - which I'd worked out by then but wasn't sure if it was just the dumb nuts doing the job.

Anyway, the LR service centres have a wheel aligner and the correct program, it was about $80 and I did / you can ask for a discount when you get it done with a service or other job, and the key benefit is that it's done right first time as they are TOTALLY aware of the car as OPPOSED to bobby Jayne type franchises who rarely see a car with this sort of suspension.

In summary, I only get it done by the LR service centre, because I've tried the other mobs.

Just my experience :)

[nat_89]

I shared this pain...until a friendly bloke at LR service centre told me about geometry mode setting needs to be set in neutral (something about geometry mode anyway).

The key point is that only LR service has the correct tool/programming to do this, so he told me any other wheel aligner or method is a waste of time - which I'd worked out by then but wasn't sure if it was just the dumb nuts doing the job.

Anyway, the LR service centres have a wheel aligner and the correct program, it was about $80 and I did / you can ask for a discount when you get it done with a service or other job, and the key benefit is that it's done right first time as they are TOTALLY aware of the car as OPPOSED to bobby Jayne type franchises who rarely see a car with this sort of suspension.

In summary, I only get it done by the LR service centre, because I've tried the other mobs.

Just my experience :)

Thats odd because i purchased my car in Townsville and when i picked it up the wheel was off centre when i drove out of the dealer dropped a uturn and drove straight into the workshop and whinged and said it needs a wheel alignment and they said wait here we have to take it to Jax quikfit because the didn't have an aligner, hmm and Mackay dealer doesn't aswell.

[Greatsouthernland]

Thats odd because i purchased my car in Townsville and when i picked it up the wheel was off centre when i drove out of the dealer dropped a uturn and drove straight into the workshop and whinged and said it needs a wheel alignment and they said wait here we have to take it to Jax quikfit because the didn't have an aligner, hmm and Mackay dealer doesn't aswell.

Sorry Nat,

I thought about the whatif scenario where there is no dealer within Cooee, but Adelaide being such a small country town and about 30mins to get most places (well before 'safety' cameras) the majority could get to the service centre easily enough, but I was wrong :(

As for the service centre not having the ability to do a wheel alignment :eek: again I miscalculated on that scenario. I don't know what to say, except that it's pretty friggin disappointing. What other key items haven't they got...

The response I got from the guy in service was that he was 'frustrated' that RRS owners take their cars to wheel centres for alignments then whinge that the cars chew out tyres...so I assumed from that, it was a straightforward LR thing to do and that they all had the ability. That was the 'vibe' of his remarks anyway.

So it looks like the fuse method is your only option :D

Again I apologise for assuming all service centres have the basic items, and yes I do consider this a basic item as they often remove and replace suspension components I.e. Those DODGY rubber bushes...

[Graeme]

Thanks heaps so basically i take it to get a wheel alignment drive it on the machine in standard height leave it running and pop the bonnet remove the fuse shut it down, do the wheel alignment put the fuse back in and start it back up and all should be good and the alignment should be perfect?Don't be in the vehicle when the fuse is removed and wait 5-10 seconds after getting out to allow the suspension to re-level after your weight has been removed.

[nat_89]

Sorry Nat,

I thought about the whatif scenario where there is no dealer within Cooee, but Adelaide being such a small country town and about 30mins to get most places (well before 'safety' cameras) the majority could get to the service centre easily enough, but I was wrong :(

As for the service centre not having the ability to do a wheel alignment :eek: again I miscalculated on that scenario. I don't know what to say, except that it's pretty friggin disappointing. What other key items haven't they got...

The response I got from the guy in service was that he was 'frustrated' that RRS owners take their cars to wheel centres for alignments then whinge that the cars chew out tyres...so I assumed from that, it was a straightforward LR thing to do and that they all had the ability. That was the 'vibe' of his remarks anyway.

So it looks like the fuse method is your only option :D

Again I apologise for assuming all service centres have the basic items, and yes I do consider this a basic item as they often remove and replace suspension components I.e. Those DODGY rubber bushes...

Thats alright no worries i would have assumed Townsville would have one but obviously not. My nearest dealer is Mackay 2.5 hours away Townsville 6 hours and Cairns is 10 Hours away haha so it looks like i might have to make do with the fuse method!! Thanks for your help much appreciated!!

[nat_89]

Don't be in the vehicle when the fuse is removed and wait 5-10 seconds after getting out to allow the suspension to re-level after your weight has been removed.

No worries ill give that a crack in the next few weeks as ill get it redone, thanks heaps for your help!!

[zilch]

just had the 4 wheel alignment done at my local LR dealer as they changed all the tyres over to GG's and it cost 160 bucks, there is a LR specialist on the northern beaches area who has the tools to do it also.. Opposite Lock use them for their modern Landie alignments

[discotwinturbo]

Thanks heaps so basically i take it to get a wheel alignment drive it on the machine in standard height leave it running and pop the bonnet remove the fuse shut it down, do the wheel alignment put the fuse back in and start it back up and all should be good and the alignment should be perfect?

That's my personal preference.
I like to keep the car at the exact height that I travel at, with just one personal at the wheel.
I know it self levels....but that's the way I choose to do it.
When I have my Touareg aligned....I stay in the car for the duration (weird or anal I know), as most of the time it has one person riding in the car.

Brett.....

[nat_89]

That's my personal preference.
I like to keep the car at the exact height that I travel at, with just one personal at the wheel.
I know it self levels....but that's the way I choose to do it.
When I have my Touareg aligned....I stay in the car for the duration (weird or anal I know), as most of the time it has one person riding in the car.

Brett.....

Cheers I'll give it a whirl that method

[Fitzy2011]

Thanks heaps so basically i take it to get a wheel alignment drive it on the machine in standard height leave it running and pop the bonnet remove the fuse shut it down, do the wheel alignment put the fuse back in and start it back up and all should be good and the alignment should be perfect?

I had my D3 in for a puncture repair yesterday so asked if they do alignments and not only did they say yes, but also stated they have to leave it run and then just open the tailgate to lock the height. Is this an option???

[nat_89]

I had my D3 in for a puncture repair yesterday so asked if they do alignments and not only did they say yes, but also stated they have to leave it run and then just open the tailgate to lock the height. Is this an option???

Leave the engine running and have the tailgate clicked open? Thats odd i know my car moves up and down with the tail gate open but not the doors? Maybe thats has something to do with it not sure

[SBD4]

Nat is right, the car will still move with tail gate open. If you want to be sure it wont move with out having to using a gadget to engage tight tolerance mode then go with Brett's advice and remove the fuse.

[Fitzy2011]

Nat is right, the car will still move with tail gate open. If you want to be sure it wont move with out having to using a gadget to engage tight tolerance mode then go with Brett's advice and remove the fuse.

I thought as much. Thanks

[nat_89]

Nat is right, the car will still move with tail gate open. If you want to be sure it wont move with out having to using a gadget to engage tight tolerance mode then go with Brett's advice and remove the fuse.

Cheers thanks heaps that seems like the best thing to do, its gonna be hard telling someone that when i put it in for an alignment haha

[RHS58]

Nat is right, the car will still move with tail gate open. If you want to be sure it wont move with out having to using a gadget to engage tight tolerance mode then go with Brett's advice and remove the fuse.

Jeez. Mine wouldn't even start with the tailgate open t'other day.

[Celtoid]

That's my personal preference.
I like to keep the car at the exact height that I travel at, with just one personal at the wheel.
I know it self levels....but that's the way I choose to do it.
When I have my Touareg aligned....I stay in the car for the duration (weird or anal I know), as most of the time it has one person riding in the car.

Brett.....

The car has electronic air suspension capable of adjusting for a 3.5T tow, without a WDH .... what diff would sitting at the wheel make?

[Celtoid]

Jeez. Mine wouldn't even start with the tailgate open t'other day.

Mine generally won't start in the morning unless I've had two cups of coffee ....