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FeatherWeightDriver
6th June 2014, 05:27 PM
Hi Brains trust,
The factory recommended pressures for a Puma 110 are:
Unloaded: 30psi front, 48psi rear
Loaded at GVM: 30psi front 65psi rear
So 2 questions:
1) Has anyone found a tyre pressure monitor that will let you set different desired pressures on the front vs rear? Unless I am not reading the product specs correctly (quite possible), all of the ones I have found seem to assume same pressure on all four tyres.
2) When deflating for off road, assuming on sand for a "same pressure all round" vehicle I would be at of 15psi, does that mean in a 110 I need 15psi in the front with the rears at 23psi unloaded and 33psi at GVM?
Thanks in advance - my head is running at 40psi just thinking about this... ;)
FWD
130man
6th June 2014, 06:29 PM
Hi FWD, I happened to be looking at these units today. The only readily available brands in my area seemed to have maximum pressure settings of 45 psi, which precludes using them on my 130 with any sort of load. I know this doesn't answer you main question but might add to the discussion. Cheers, 130man.
captainslow
6th June 2014, 06:50 PM
I use the Tyredog monitor and this allows setting the pressures individually for all 4 tyres. Maximum tyre pressure is 60psi for the standard 4WD monitor but there is a truck version that goes up to 180psi if you really need it.
The other advantage of the Tyredog is that it handles the lower pressures when you let your tyres down. Some of the cheepies won't allow you to set a low pressure warning under 20psi. I've been very happy with mine.
Cheers
Pete
Sue
6th June 2014, 08:25 PM
I use the Sensa Tyre system.. which I bought from Landy Bitz (run by Juddy on the forum) Safety (http://www.landybitz.com.au/safety)
From memory you can set every tyre separately, you can also set a very low pressure when using it for offroad. I bought the 6-14 tyre pack so both my spares are covered and if I want I can purchase extra sensors for any trailers I might want to use it on.. (handy for cavanners and truckies).. 
I just LOVE the system and honestly think it's one of my best purchases, it allows me to see the pressure and the temp of the tyres and for the piece of mind it gives me its worth every cent.
If you are looking at getting a system can I suggest getting one that has the sensors inside the tyre itself (attached to the rim) as I've heard of the ones that fit onto the valve being damaged when off road. :)
bed_bug
6th June 2014, 08:56 PM
Hello, can anyone tell me please are these systems for tubeless installs, i.e. internal. My 101 has tooobs so Id need units that fit on the valve stems.
Cheers then 
Steve
Vern
7th June 2014, 12:14 AM
Tyredogg runs off the valves, we ran these on all vehicles on our recent canning trip, saved a few tyres but letting us know early when we had slight punctures.
bed_bug
7th June 2014, 06:18 AM
Thanks Vern I'll check that out. Steve
roley18
7th June 2014, 10:05 AM
+1 for the Sensa Tyre system. I run it all the time, interesting to see how hot they get in various conditions.
bed_bug
7th June 2014, 03:36 PM
+1 for the Sensa Tyre system. I run it all the time, interesting to see how hot they get in various conditions.
OK I'll check that out too and yes the temps and related pressure change may be interesting, Not so much in the UK but in the south of Europe and in the colder places like Norway too.
Tyres as so damned expensive that any gadget to prolong and protect their existence has to be worth a look. 
cheers
Steve
HardCharger
9th June 2014, 06:31 PM
Has anyone given the Inawise TPMS a try?
TonyC
10th June 2014, 07:55 AM
I have a Tyre-Dog that is 3 years old.
The front and rear pressures can be set independently, and easily changed when off road.
It uses external sensors screwed on to the valves and as such the temp readings are worthless, but I would not be without now.
You can get a tpms app for the iPhone here
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tpms/id542118415'mt=8
A write up from the Oka forum
http://www.byles.net/www.oka4wd.com/on-the-road/750-tyre-pressure-monitoring-system-via-bluetooth-the-itpmsystem
Tony
bed_bug
12th June 2014, 12:51 AM
I have a 260m round trip tomorrow all on motorways. To get the new tilt measured up. So it will be nice to get this on there this eve. Cheers !
Steve
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bed_bug
15th June 2014, 02:48 PM
I completed the trip to Trim technology services who are the sub contractor to Land Rover for making tilts. This TPMS was great. My kids have asked  "why are the pressures different from to back ? "  This is an excellent way to prove to them how the pressures change when you get on down the road. Also any serous hub are issues that transmit enough heat, are going to show up in the tyres pressures too I think. Very handy  - thanks Steve.
FeatherWeightDriver
15th June 2014, 08:04 PM
Thanks all.
I didn't realise the temperature reading on the stem mount readers wasn't as good as the internal mounted readers, but I guess that makes sense...
Hopefully some shopping to come soon... ;)
bed_bug
19th August 2014, 02:46 AM
OK new issue ! If one of the valve mounted readers becomes a little loose you can soon end up with a tyre 20% out of air. So the system for monitoring the problem becomes the problem. I think I was just nervous of wrecking the calibration of the little valve mounted gadgets.
AndyG
19th August 2014, 05:06 AM
Hi Brains trust,
The factory recommended pressures for a Puma 110 are:
Unloaded: 30psi front, 48psi rear
Loaded at GVM: 30psi front 65psi rear
So 2 questions:
1) Has anyone found a tyre pressure monitor that will let you set different desired pressures on the front vs rear? Unless I am not reading the product specs correctly (quite possible), all of the ones I have found seem to assume same pressure on all four tyres.
2) When deflating for off road, assuming on sand for a "same pressure all round" vehicle I would be at of 15psi, does that mean in a 110 I need 15psi in the front with the rears at 23psi unloaded and 33psi at GVM?
Thanks in advance - my head is running at 40psi just thinking about this... ;)
FWD
Could some one address point 2, my way of thinking was reduce front by x% then reduce rear by x%, not absolutes, but I'm only guessing.
chook73
19th August 2014, 07:04 PM
I use the Sensa Tyre system.. which I bought from Landy Bitz (run by Juddy on the forum) Safety (http://www.landybitz.com.au/safety)
From memory you can set every tyre separately, you can also set a very low pressure when using it for offroad. I bought the 6-14 tyre pack so both my spares are covered and if I want I can purchase extra sensors for any trailers I might want to use it on.. (handy for cavanners and truckies).. 
I just LOVE the system and honestly think it's one of my best purchases, it allows me to see the pressure and the temp of the tyres and for the piece of mind it gives me its worth every cent.
If you are looking at getting a system can I suggest getting one that has the sensors inside the tyre itself (attached to the rim) as I've heard of the ones that fit onto the valve being damaged when off road. :)
Hey Sue how does the system work when you drop the pressures for off road use? Is it easy to adjust or do you have to spend ages mucking around with it?
Sue
19th August 2014, 08:31 PM
Hey Sue how does the system work when you drop the pressures for off road use? Is it easy to adjust or do you have to spend ages mucking around with it?
No it's really quick... I just adjust the min pressures (for when I want it to alarm) before I let the air out (otherwise it alarms while I am doing it).. It only takes a few seconds. :)
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