Need Help Please!!!

[kemosabee]

hi too all

i recently bought a 2002 freelander td4 drove it for about a week or so then random power loss while accelerating (from start to just passed mid way throttle and round long corners)all the while black smoke bellowing from exhaust :( so i did a search of your forum and found alot of people with similar problems i checked and double checked the turbo hoses they looked ok. Blocked and cleaned the EGR same problem random power loss black smoke bellowing :( then did more research and come across VCU valve(can somebody please put up a link for me to get this part :D) so went to undo the cover then SNAP!!!!i broke a little T piece that sits on top of the injector(i think..) here are a couple of pics of what i broke. pic one is the T piece thingy and pic two is where its located(please if anyone knows the name of and where i can find this part online or otherwise it would be much appreciated) if anyone has any ideas on why my freelander turns into a slug :P every now and then please post its got me pulling out my hair as its my daily commute and is now sitting im my garage awaiting parts

P.S. sorry if this post seems rushed im sorta a newbie to land rover and my mechanical skills are amateur at best(don't mind getting my hands dirty though :) )

kind regards
Kemo

[woko]

Hi
The piece you broke is called a spill return pipe. Part number for this is MSP101340L. You cant buy just the one new. It comes as a set.

I would be looking at the solenoid that controls the turbo. Either the filter is blocked. Its a small filter that looks like a old style fuel filter and will be at the right hand rear of the engine, and is vented to atmosphere. Or the solenoid will be causing the turbo to over boost and the engine will be in derate. The solenoid is accessed from under the car above the from the prop shaft at the front.

If your planning to do your own work and keeping it for a while a Hawkeye is a must for codes, live data etc.

[kemosabee]

Hi

Thanks for the reply woko i think I found a single T piece thingy on fleabay here's the link. Bosch Common Rail Leak OFF Connector T Piece | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171267325628) is this correct? It looks exactly the same as the one I broke :)

Cheers Thanks for the advise on the solenoid I'll look into it as well

Question and please excuse my newbness is this the right part I should be ordering and putting in place of the clogged up toilet roll filter thingy for the VCU valve. BMW E46 E87 E90 E91 E60 Crankcase OIL Breather Separator Filter 11127799367 C988 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111366521711)

Cheers
Kemo

[woko]

Hi

Thanks for the reply woko i think I found a single T piece thingy on fleabay here's the link. Bosch Common Rail Leak OFF Connector T Piece | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171267325628) is this correct? It looks exactly the same as the one I broke :)

Cheers Thanks for the advise on the solenoid I'll look into it as well

Question and please excuse my newbness is this the right part I should be ordering and putting in place of the clogged up toilet roll filter thingy for the VCU valve. BMW E46 E87 E90 E91 E60 Crankcase OIL Breather Separator Filter 11127799367 C988 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111366521711)

Cheers
Kemo
That looks like the correct part for the fuel line.

Yes, that's the updated breather for the crankcase. By your description, the one that is in it is the very early one. BMW changed to a foam type and then the cyclone type. Land Rover never offered the cyclone type as a update but it's well worth putting it in, as when they block up turbo failure is one of the symptoms.



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[kemosabee]

Awesome T piece ordered just about to order the cyclonic filter :)

Quoted by woko "I would be looking at the solenoid that controls the turbo. Either the filter is blocked. Its a small filter that looks like a old style fuel filter and will be at the right hand rear of the engine, and is vented to atmosphere. Or the solenoid will be causing the turbo to over boost and the engine will be in derate."

I've seen the in line filter I'll check n see if it's blocked if it isn't do you know the part number for the solenoid and how much it might cost me?

Thanks
Kemo

[woko]

The part number is STC4198.
I would get fault codes read before ordering parts. A over boost will log a fault.

[kemosabee]

Ah ok I checked out the hawkeye diagnostics bout $500 bucks bit expensive for me at the moment is there a way I can find the fault codes el cheapo style lol like for example a cable and software that I can link to a laptop of something like that? Or is there something I can do in the mean time while I'm waiting for these parts to come in?

Thanks for your patience
Kemo

[kemosabee]

Something like this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261270094539

Or this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190779219698

Or this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251475228136

Or are these useless?

[psproule]

Something like this?

ELM327 II OBD 2 Bluetooth Auto Car Diagnostic Interface Scanner for Land Rover | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/261270094539)

Or this?
Land Rover PC USB OBD2 OBDII OBD 2 Scanner Interface Code Reader | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190779219698)

Or this?
Check Engine Light OBD2 OBDII OBD 2 Scanner Interface Code Reader for Land Rover | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251475228136)

Or are these useless?

Pretty much useless. I have a couple, but went and bought a Hawkeye in the end. The Hawkeye lets you in to all of the computers - trans, engine, security, body. Good diagnostic info and able to set some of the special functions. Expensive but the only real way to go.

Pat

[woko]

Pretty much useless. I have a couple, but went and bought a Hawkeye in the end. The Hawkeye lets you in to all of the computers - trans, engine, security, body. Good diagnostic info and able to set some of the special functions. Expensive but the only real way to go.

Pat
X2. you will be able to get P codes with them. Try having a look in the members with diagnostic equipment section. You may be able to find someone with a hawkeye close to you.

[kemosabee]

Aaaahhhhhh got the t piece posted finally put the car back together drove fine for a couple days then oil in the water expansion tank? I first noticed it oil was leaking out the top of the lid let the engine cool the had a look inside the tank and black think oil it's not a creamy consistency but looks like think black sludge... Please don't tell me I've done my head gasket $$$$

[woko]

Head gasket failure is not common on the TD4.

Was it losing water?

Has it been over heated?

If the answer is no to both, I would look at the oil cooler. It is located on the side of the oil filter housing. Remove it and pressurize the coolant side to 15psi with compressed air and submerge it in water. if it bubbles it is shot.

If it is the head gasket, you need service tools to do the timing. there is no key ways in the cam sprockets.

[kemosabee]

thanks woko :)
Ok there were no signs of water loss or overheating the temp needle never went passed half way so so it must be the oil cooler(well I hope so) i will do what I can but I may have to let a mechanic mate in on my freelander woes as this seems beyond my mechanical skill and availability of tools... Many thanks
Kemo

[kemosabee]

After 2 weeks of waiting for this mechanic to find an oil cooler he reckons it's gonna cost me $500(I asked him was it made from gold) just for the cooler does this sound right??? If anyone know where I might be able to get one cheaper around Melbourne or has any weblinks for online parts shops pls let me know

[kemosabee]

Or even a part number so I can shop around at least

[woko]

part number is PBC101370L
Do a Google search on the part you will get it cheaper from the UK
The engine is a BMW M47, may be cheaper going the BMW way

[kemosabee]

Awesome thank you woko :) I have finally got the car back on the road while the car was in the shop (which I had too change mechanics by the way) the battery died so now my radio is flashing for some reason anyway cars all good now was overheating because my first mechanic was slack and didn't know what he was doing but after a couple of flushes of the system all sweet now if only I can figure out how to make the radio stop flashing argh :)

[kemosabee]

And now the radio isn't flashing anymore cause I found the code in the glovebox

[kemosabee]

Hmm I'm getting heaps of residue in the water expansion tank is there a good procedure to flush this stuff out and a recommended solution or additive to help get most of it out?

[woko]

Drain the coolant out and fill with water and add front loader washing powder. Go for a drive. Then redo. Do this a few times and this will wash out the oil. When it's clean, do it a few times with just water until clean.Then full with coolant.

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[kemosabee]

Awesome thanks woko been a big help mate